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Old 10-17-2013   #21
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I like Keenum but there are a few posters on this board that make him out to be greatly overlooked talent when I doubt that is what is happening. He will have to be fairly spectacular (whether that's fair or not) if he's going to start over an uninjured Schaub.
I disagree. He needs to play well enough to win. If we start winning again, Keenum is not going back to the bench.
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Nailed it.

We're all rooting for him. Nobody wants to see him fail. But his little fan club here walks around with ridiculous unfounded hype and a huge chip on its shoulder.
Isn't it ABOUT TIME we have a texans player with a "chip on his shoulder"????
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Isn't it ABOUT TIME we have a texans player with a "chip on his shoulder"????
We're not talking about players. We're talking about his fan club on this board that posts links to Brady videos and draws Brees comparisons and then gets upset when the rest of us don't see it.

Every real Texans fan wants Keenum to go out Sunday afternoon and totally kill it. The difference is the degrees of sunshine some of us have been pumping up our asses about whether he will or not.
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I think Keenum has enough talent to be a good QB in this league. The trouble for guys that come in as perennial backups is that they don't get enough play time to ever fully evaluate their talent level . Not that they all should get playing time.

Right now, Keenum gives us the best shot to win Sunday, that's the reason he should be out there. We will have to see how he plays before we anoint the second coming though.
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I've been drinking the Keenum Kool-Aid for a while now, but until we see him in real action against a real NFL defense, not a single one of us knows how he will be. This could be a total disaster or the start of a new Texan era or anything in between.

All I'm saying is I HOPE Keenum is the savior and I'm glad as hell he's finally getting a shot. As a lot of folks say, the sooner we find out the sooner we'll know our QB situation and can begin to prepare for it.
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Right now, Keenum gives us the best shot to win Sunday, that's the reason he should be out there. We will have to see how he plays before we anoint the second coming though.
I don't know that to be true. This game is so different from the college game & the preseason is closer to the college game than a true NFL game that we have no clue. On top of that, people act different when they're "the man" & right now, Keenum is "the man" for the first time in his NFL career.

Keenum is starting Sunday, because Yates blew his opportunity. This is Case's opportunity to earn a starting job. This is his opportunity to prove that he gives us as good, if not better "shot to win" than Matt Schaub (the guy who would have put Peyton Manning back on the airplane if he ever showed up in Houston).
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I know after watching MS and miniMS I would be for whoever was the third string QB if he was unknown. Case just happens to be the one in that position.

He did you look promising in PRESEASON.

At least will we learn what we have in QBs so that we can effectively plan for next year. It won't take much to be better than what we have been so far at the QB position. At least we have hope and who knows.......
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I disagree. He needs to play well enough to win. If we start winning again, Keenum is not going back to the bench.
A win alone won't keep the starter spot. If case wins 14-10. 10-6 Schaub will come back if healthy. Case would have to dominate to keep the spot
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A win alone won't keep the starter spot. If case wins 14-10. 10-6 Schaub will come back if healthy. Case would have to dominate to keep the spot
If he wins he starts unless we win in spite of Case. I just hope he makes it through the game in one piece. Even GK is not that INSANE.



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If he wins he starts unless we win in spite of Case. I just hope he makes it through the game in one piece. Even GK is not that INSANE.



I hope.
Kubiak wants to keep his job. If Case proves he can win, he'll stay.
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Spot on for me too. I never root against young guys.When posters start using college as a reason,that's part of my thing. I hope he plays well,but the elephant in the room is andrew luck. They have luck,we're starting a guy who wasn't drafted. Let that sink in.
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So after reading the thread so far, it seems most are more upset about the supposed "hype" about Case than Case himself.

But I'm still confused because I don't know that the majority of "pro-Keenum" fans think he is the answer. If someone is posting highlights of Brady or something I could see doing that just as a rebuttal to someone making a blanket statement that Keenum sucks because he was undrafted. Both arguments are ridiculous and invalid IMO.

But the point is, majority of "Keenumites" or whatever you want to say just want to A) see a change almost for change's sake and B) want to give the kid a shot because let's face it C) realistically, this season is quickly swirling the bowl.

I guess that is more the angle I'm looking at it from and I assume most other Keenum "fans" are.
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So after reading the thread so far, it seems most are more upset about the supposed "hype" about Case than Case himself.

But I'm still confused because I don't know that the majority of "pro-Keenum" fans think he is the answer. If someone is posting highlights of Brady or something I could see doing that just as a rebuttal to someone making a blanket statement that Keenum sucks because he was undrafted. Both arguments are ridiculous and invalid IMO.

But the point is, majority of "Keenumites" or whatever you want to say just want to A) see a change almost for change's sake and B) want to give the kid a shot because let's face it C) realistically, this season is quickly swirling the bowl.

I guess that is more the angle I'm looking at it from and I assume most other Keenum "fans" are.
Add a large amount of "hope" and "praying to the football gods" and that's pretty much where I'm at. I just want to win. That's all. It would be sweet if home town boy makes good.
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My foremost objective for the Texans is for them to win, and whoever gives the Texans the best chance to win, I'm all for him. If it's Keenum great, but since I'm very skeptical that any guy who's never taken a snap in a regular season game in the NFL can be the Texans savior, does that make me part of the
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My foremost objective for the Texans is for them to win, and whoever gives the Texans the best chance to win, I'm all for him. If it's Keenum great, but since I'm very skeptical that any guy who's never taken a snap in a regular season game in the NFL can be the Texans savior, does that make me part of the
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I was about to say the same thing. I'm not anti-CK - just realistic about the likely outcome of this scenario.
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I was about to say the same thing. I'm not anti-CK - just realistic about the likely outcome of this scenario.
Understood.

But, what is the realistic outcome of a scenario in starting Schaub or Yates over and over and over with these results?
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Understood.

But, what is the realistic outcome of a scenario in starting Schaub or Yates over and over and over with these results?
If Case can't do it, at least we know it. That's means getting a new QB for sure. One way or the other, this needs to be answered.
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... Yes?

What the Keenum fan club is missing is that people are not "anti-Keenum". They/we are anti-unfounded hype/ridiculous hyperbole/expectations. I think that most every fan of the Texans wants to see Keenum succeed.
That's pretty much how I view most people around here. Skepticism isn't the same thing. I'm pro-Keenum. I don't know what to expect and that's why I'd rather see him. I know what we have in the others. Maybe Keenum will be great. Maybe he'll be solid. Maybe he'll struggle. I still think he should be the guy for the rest of the season, though. The team needs to know what it has in him. We could win in the playoffs in spite of the other 2, but we can't win because of them. Why not at least see if Keenum can get it done?
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I hope for the best, but prepare for reality.

At 2-4 this team is desperate. Most fans entered this season taking a playoff spot for granted, that this team would secure the division again, and just needed to focus on winning "big games".

Obviously, that is no longer an expectation for most fans, and the reality is that the season is starting to circle the drain just 6 games into it. And it's not just the record, but the way the team is playing as a whole and how they are losing games as a team.

I keep hearing the word "spark" with Case. From the head coach on down, the burden of trying to breath some life into this team and maybe save a season rests on his young, inexperienced shoulders.

The kid is either going to rise to the occasion or wilt under pressure. Most of us hope for the former, but just be prepared for the latter. NFL history is full of examples of players being put in situations over their heads and sinking. All we can do is hope that we have that 1 in a 100 player that has some kind of destiny to be great. But we won't know until it happens.
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If Case can't do it, at least we know it. That's means getting a new QB for sure. One way or the other, this needs to be answered.
That's basically exactly my sentiment. I think a lot of "anti-keenum" (I realize now not everyone is necessarily under that label but I don't know what else to call it) people think there is still hope for a SB run or something this year so they want someone they feel can help make that happen.

I hate to be the rain cloud that ruins the day but...........that aint happenin'.........so let's see what Keenum has. I just can't fathom why anyone would be against that with this season. It's not like the Texans are 6-0 and we're clamoring for this.
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