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Old 10-17-2013   #241
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Default Re: Case Keenum to start Sunday

I don't think very many question what Schaub has meant to us in the past, just what he means to us now.
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Just woke up and saw this thread. I Can't believe Case will be a starting QB against KC game!

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I think Schaub has served us well in the past, but this team has a lot of talent and unless he can sort out his throwing issues, and he is no longer capable of leading it.

That said, only Sunday will begin to tell us whether Keenum is the answer for the future. Let him play, and let the rest of the team rally around him.
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I look at the upcoming game this way:

Yes, we're all afraid of Case becoming "Kubieized" with dull and lackluster play-calling, but the excitement I am beginning to feel at this point is the ways in which those same plays could/will break down, and it's left to Keenum to work his way out of them.

This is where the interest must be. Even in a losing effort, we shall learn of the potential Case has with this team in the future.

Even in a loss, if we learn more about his potential, and he remains our starter after the bye; isn't that somewhat like a victory in itself?
Question - Do you think this years version of Schaub is capable of "opening up the offense and making downfield throws"?
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dude got a chunk of his ear ripped off last year.....i dont think his coaches or teammates questioned his heart...only fans for silly reasons at that.

His head....a different matter all together.
I question his confidence under pressure... so where is his heart then? Maybe the guy just lacks what it takes from a physical and talent wise perspective.
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Folds under pressure, but no one questions his heart.

Honestly confused.
Yes you are.

When a play is there to be made he makes the throw and takes the shot. When a play is not there he plays smart just like Peyton has always done and goes down. There is no nobility to taking an unnecessary shot which will not benefit the team.
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I don't know if keenum is a warrior but ill be pleased if he doesn't go down like Schaub aka the fainting goat.
It's called avoiding big hits, something Peyton and Brady do as well. If Keenum wants a long career, he's going to have to learn how to avoid taking hits as well.
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Default Re: Case Keenum to start Sunday

I don't know what kind of commercials you guys see in Houston. But any commercial around here for a Texans' football game has the other teams QB vs Jj Watt... it used to be the other teams QB vs Arian Foster. Before that is was the other teams' QB vs Brian Cushing & before that Andre Johnson.

Come January, if they're advertising our divisional round play off game as "Case Keenum & the Houston Texans take on Aj Green & the Cincinnati Bengals."

Then I'm fine going forward with Case Keenum as our defacto starter. But, I want both Tj & Schaub gone & a "Nick Foles, Kurt Cousins" sitting on the bench.
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Just woke up and saw this thread. I Can't believe Case will be a starting QB against KC game!

Go Case Go!!!!!
it must suck to always be a day behind all the news
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It's called avoiding big hits, something Peyton and Brady do as well. If Keenum wants a long career, he's going to have to learn how to avoid taking hits as well.
Find any video of Brady or Manning folding this season like Schaub has done at least twice this year.
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Find any video of Brady or Manning folding this season like Schaub has done at least twice this year.
Give either one of them Derek Newton or Wade Smith and they'll fold like a house of cards.
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Find any video of Brady or Manning folding this season like Schaub has done at least twice this year.
Good lord, Manning has done it a bunch of times just against the Texans, several with Mario just running up and touching him on the ground.
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It's called avoiding big hits, something Peyton and Brady do as well. If Keenum wants a long career, he's going to have to learn how to avoid taking hits as well.
No Its called extending the play. Manning and Brady have a knack for feeling the pas rush and side stepping or moving up in the pocket, whereas Schaub sees an oncoming defender and he collapses a jenga tower.
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No Its called extending the play. Manning and Brady have a knack for feeling the pas rush and side stepping or moving up in the pocket, whereas Schaub sees an oncoming defender and he collapses a jenga tower.
Exactly. Anyone who's watched the Texans play for the last few years and are being truly genuine and honest with themselves knows the difference between what Schaub does and what Brady/Manning does.

Schaub goes down even when the rusher is still a fair amount of steps away. Brady and Manning will go down at the very last possible second.
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Exactly. Anyone who's watched the Texans play for the last few years and are being truly genuine and honest with themselves knows the difference between what Schaub does and what Brady/Manning does.

Schaub goes down even when the rusher is still a fair amount of steps away. Brady and Manning will go down at the very last possible second.
The one QB I see stepping up in the pocket on a regular basis is drew Brees. I know Schaub can do it since he did against the redskins on a game winning td to Andre but for often than not when the pressure is on Schaub takes a dive or retreats and back pedals so far back that there is no hope of making a positive play.
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Good lord, Manning has done it a bunch of times just against the Texans, several with Mario just running up and touching him on the ground.
I agree that all qb's will go fetal...however, Schaub has gone fetal this year at times when the pocket just gets a little tight.

There's a difference between going down when a guy has a free run at you vs going down when there is still some life in the play.

Schaub hasn't done a good job of sliding in the pocket and getting his eyes back down field to make throws.
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Default Re: Case Keenum to start Sunday

This is really good news. I've been a Schaub sun-shine pumper, but I can't put into words how stoked I am to see Keenum get a chance. If he's successful, it could be the story of the year: "Hometown Hero pulls Texans' Season From the Fire" - and I'm not even a UH fan.

As to why Keenum is getting the start, it's probably because Kubiak is feeling the pressure to make a change - and knows sending TJ out there and using it as an excuse wasn't going to cut it. However, Keenum playing poorly might buy him another excuse since Keenum will have far more rope with Uncle Bob than TJ or Schaub does now. Only time will tell, but for now I'm hopeless drunk on the koolaid. Give em hell, Case!
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Good lord, Manning has done it a bunch of times just against the Texans, several with Mario just running up and touching him on the ground.
Good Lord, Manning will fold like a cheap beach chair when really pressured.

That said, he will stand in the pocket to the very last minute before going "fetal" like one "HWSNBN" that we all once used to know.
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Well I'm glad I didn't say I'd eat my hat on video if Keenum started, I am absolutely floored by this decision. Kubiak might be realizing his job is on the line and that Yates sucks worse than Schaub.
I'm thinking along with you that the coach may have been pressured from above. I'm thrilled, and it has nothing to do with the fact that I took my doctorate from U H; that was before Case played for them. It would be just as nice if we could start Johnny Football.
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