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Old 10-17-2013   #61
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I think I saw Keenum hit a receiver in stride in preseason but can't remember?
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0:55 mark, and turn down the music if you don't want your ears to bleed. Keenum actually made Jean look like a competent receiver in the preseason.
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LOL, yeah I'm getting that way..

Look, Keenum may or may not be "the guy", oddd are stacked against him that he will, but nobody will know one way or the other until he gets his chance. Im just tired of people acting like it's impossible that he can be or acting like he hasn't earned a look.. especially when you have hot garbage currently playing in front of him. Like I said before, it's not like we're bypassing Brady or Brees in order to see what he can do. We're bypassing a QB who's breaking down in Schaub and T.J. Yates.
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To be fair to Case, I think if Kubiak didn't bring him in, he still would've got a invite to someone else's camp. Just because he was undrafted doesn't mean he wouldn't of got a opportunity in the NFL somewhere else if Houston didn't bring him in, so Kubiak is more like the first coach to give him a chance.
Keenum also sat on the Texans practice squad last year without any team showing any interest at all in him. Kubiak is the first and only coach that has given this player any love in any sense. That's not a bad thing, but it's not really debatable. It just it what is is.

I would like to think that Keenum could end up being Kubiak's savior, simply because that would mean that Case did something special for this franchise.

I'm not trying to disrespect the kid, but let's be pragmatic about it. I do not recall any UDFA 3rd string QB being in high demand at any point in NFL history. That being said, this does not mean that he cannot play pro ball. Only time will tell on that part.
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Keenum also sat on the Texans practice squad last year without any team showing any interest at all in him. Kubiak is the first and only coach that has given this player any love in any sense. That's not a bad thing, but it's not really debatable. It just it what is is.

I would like to think that Keenum could end up being Kubiak's savior, simply because that would mean that Case did something special for this franchise.

I'm not trying to disrespect the kid, but let's be pragmatic about it. I do not recall any UDFA 3rd string QB being in high demand at any point in NFL history. That being said, this does not mean that he cannot play pro ball. Only time will tell on that part.
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I don't think he could do anything in one game that would convince me he's the guy. You have to see him over the course of the season.
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LOL, yeah I'm getting that way..

Look, Keenum may or may not be "the guy", oddd are stacked against him that he will, but nobody will know one way or the other until he gets his chance. Im just tired of people acting like it's impossible that he can be or acting like he hasn't earned a look.. especially when you have hot garbage currently playing in front of him. Like I said before, it's not like we're bypassing Brady or Brees in order to see what he can do. We're bypassing a QB who's breaking down in Schaub and T.J. Yates.
Fair enough view, I'm of the opinion Kubiak should have enough experience to know Schaub has issues, and started the search for better talent to pressure him in minicamp. But apparently this isn't the case.

It won't matter much who we put if we lose to the chiefs unless everyone else goes on a losing streak.
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How about just win the damn game!
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A volunteering of much more praise than would be expected with a ho hum talent.

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“When we first got him, he wasn’t taking snaps from center very well,” Dennison said. “Underneath center, he’s done a lot of that and obviously understanding the system, but he’s a bright kid who works very, very hard.”

All-Pro left tackle Duane Brown, who describes Keenum as "a very fiery guy," agrees.

“He’s come a long way, a long way," Brown said. "We all knew about his collegiate career and all of the great things he did. He got here and it was a little rough for him, just trying to learn the playbook and getting used to the NFL game. But in a year’s time, it’s made a huge difference. He’s out there and he looks like a pretty good quarterback. He makes some big-time throws out there. Besides that, I really like his demeanor and personality."

Matt Schaub, who suffered an injury in the Texans’ 38-13 loss to St. Louis, credits Keenum for grasping an offensive scheme competely different from the one he ran in his collegiate career.

"Case, coming from his past where it was at U of H and the type of offense that they ran and coming into our system and trying to almost do a 180 on how to operate at his position in our scheme," Schaub said. "He’s just come such a long way, understanding the run game, understanding the pass concepts, our play-action. It’s just so different from his past. He has a huge football IQ and he can make all of the throws. You have those two things and you give him a playbook and he can go out and do it.”

Schaub could return for Sunday’s game at Arrowhead Stadium. If not, either Yates or Keenum will be the starting quarterback in Week 7. Should Keenum start, he will have to also adjust to playing in a noisy environment on the road.

“I think operating is going to be a big key to this game, just operation before the snap and getting us into the right plays, dealing with the noise and silent cadence, and putting the ball in the right place,” Keenum said. “Managing the game I think is going to be a key this week.”

Keenum, who compares the competition this week to the one in preseason between him and Yates, enjoyed the extra practice time for now.

“I got a lot more practice reps and it was fun,” Keenum said. “It was fun running our offense and getting ready to play a game. That’s how I’m seeing it right now and trying to bring a lot of energy and fun to practice this week and the game. I think today was a good start.”
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Default Re: What does Keenum have to do to convince you he's the guy going forward?

For someone to truly show that they are the "guy" to build around take more than a game or even half a football season. thus far Keenum has done everything that he could do to put himself in position to have a legitimate chance at being an NFL starter...no more, no less.

That said, I simply want Keenum to play a good football game on
Sunday (and anytime he is QBing the Texans). That's the next and only step right now.
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Wasn't Kurt Warner a 3rd string UDFA that got his shot? Or was he second string?

I think the only reason Yates was the backup this year is because he known the offense longer, being he ran the same offense at North Carolina and being I the Texans the last few years.

Keenum has only been running this offense for a year and a half.
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No pick 6's. An INT is okay as long as he has at least 1 TD for each INT.

It's a rookie in his first start in an away game. I'm not going to ask for the moon AND the stars.
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No pick 6's. An INT is okay as long as he has at least 1 TD for each INT.

It's a rookie in his first start in an away game. I'm not going to ask for the moon AND the stars.
Interesting. I wonder if (we) the fans will give Keenum more latitude than we are giving Schaub and Yates?
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I'm a fan of his right now because he's the unknown factor. We don't know what we have in Keenum. IMO he's the guy for the rest of the season no matter how he plays Sunday. You need to see what you have in him.

Schaub is 32, has had some lower limb injuries and that's limited his once pedestrian athleticism. He's not going to magically get more mobile or have a stronger arm.

Yates is still young, but he hasn't shown that he's progressed over the past season and a half. If anything, based on his performance against the Rams, he's regressed. Still, while I love that he stepped in as a rookie, made some plays, and got us our first taste of that wonderful thing called the postseason, I think his ceiling is serviceable backup. He could pinch start for you and be able to hand the ball off a lot while making a few throws. He's not going to become the next Tom Brady for us. I'm not saying Keenum is, but we know Yates isn't.

Keenum is a mystery. I'm not a UH guy and I'm vehemently anti-Kubiak, but I want so much for Keenum to come in, light up the Chiefs and become the QB that we need. If he isn't the guy then at least we'll know and we can look at a 1st round QB to be our salvation.
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Interesting. I wonder if (we) the fans will give Keenum more latitude than we are giving Schaub and Yates?
Honestly I do. He's basically a rookie. I'll forgive him a few more mistakes than the other 2. Hopefully he makes more plays than the other 2 as well.
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KC has a terrible offense. Keenum needs to not give up pick 6 / short field to KC.

If he can manage the game, let Arian and Tate (KC has a terrible run defense also) do most of the heavy lifting and get a TD when they can get into the RZ we can win. That's more than our #1 and #2 have been doing.
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