Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQDonate Automatic Monthly Contribution Members List Mark Forums Read


Texans Talk Football talk only please. Keep it to the game, the players, the coaches and management.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-16-2013   #21
Mr. White
H-Town Beatdown
 
Mr. White's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sugar Land
Age: 41
Posts: 6,011
Rep Power: 18101 Mr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

What's the offensive time of possession this season?

If you want to slam the D with stats, at least put the stats in context.
__________________
Quote:
@McClain_on_NFL
John McClain
We b trippin with Nelly. Me and Mr Dancing With the Stars Warren Sapp.
Mr. White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #22
Nitrofish
Humanoid
 
Nitrofish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Age: 47
Posts: 637
Rep Power: 56366 Nitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respectedNitrofish is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingtexan View Post
Numbers and stats are for blind people who cant think for themselves.
Wait... what?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Barrel View Post
The Texans suck in the red zone on both sides of the ball this year. It's pathetic really.

And our special teams never seem to get out of the red zone on kickoffs.

It's obvious: the Texans are allergic to the red zone in all phases of the game.
It sure seems that way.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny View Post
Zone blocking teams are notoriously poor in the red zone since they don't have drive blocking type linemen for the most part. ZBS teams are full of feet guys...guys good in space. On defense, as we all know, we don't need no stinkin' large NT.
Wait... Didn't Foster have 15 touchdowns last year? Does not really fit your narrative. The Texans are not getting inside the 5 very often. Think we are last in that category so I don't think it has anything to do with the zone blocking, but rather they cannot get inside the 5 to make it happen.

Looking at the poor run defense against the Rams, it is clear we need a big space eater. Would have been nice to get Poe, but can't get everyone you want.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hervoyel View Post
Perhaps there's something that the Texans marketing department could do to lend a hand? Maybe they could rename it "The Battle Red Zone" and give out little red towels to wave whenever the Texans are in it. Then we could get the band "Simply Red" to write and perform a song that the team could play whenever they got into said "Battle Red Zone" (Hey it makes as much sense as bringing Vanilla ****ing Ice in to play on "Everybody wear white day"). The concessions would offer a special discount on Big Red and Killians Red while the team was inside the 20's.

No?
I'm with you bro. Sounds like a great idea!
__________________
#FearTheBeard2014

"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. -Shane Falco
"Listen... Do you smell something?" -Dr. Raymond Stantz
Nitrofish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #23
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 33,690
Rep Power: 209602 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by kingtexan View Post
Numbers and stats are for blind people who cant think for themselves.
There's this story called The Kings New Clothes. It's about a boy named sonofbum....
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #24
thunderkyss 
& so it begins
 
thunderkyss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Texas
Age: 42
Posts: 33,690
Rep Power: 209602 thunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respectedthunderkyss is a quality contributor and well respected
Send a message via Yahoo to thunderkyss
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. White View Post
What's the offensive time of possession this season?

If you want to slam the D with stats, at least put the stats in context.
#1

So that means..... what?
__________________
thunderkyss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #25
2012Champs
Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,571
Rep Power: 69152 2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected2012Champs is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by 76Texan View Post
Big deal.

It could mean that the opponents only managed to get to our redzone four times and they scored 3 TDs.

Other teams may have a lower percentage, but they got burned by long bombs before the opponents get to the red zone.

It's better to combine everything on the field to come to a final conclusion.


We'll glad you figured out what 75% means. Texans are giving up 2.2 redzone tds per game
2012Champs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #26
steds
Veteran
 
steds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Liverpool, UK
Posts: 273
Rep Power: 329 steds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respectedsteds is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderkyss View Post
#1

So that means..... what?
Wow. Even with all those turnovers. How weird is that
steds is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2013   #27
texanhead08
Hall of Fame
 
texanhead08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston,Tx
Age: 46
Posts: 1,349
Rep Power: 11275 texanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respectedtexanhead08 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Texans defense is #25 against the run. That's why the red zone defense is so damn bad.
__________________
3 Weeks 3 Quarterbacks..but the same ****ing team

Gary Kubiak
December 4,2011
texanhead08 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2013   #28
Vance87
Hall of Fame
 
Vance87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Age: 26
Posts: 1,710
Rep Power: 67472 Vance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respectedVance87 is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by texanhead08 View Post
Texans defense is #25 against the run. That's why the red zone defense is so damn bad.
That and we get fooled by the play-action fake to a wide open TE in the end zone EVERY FREAKIN' TIME
__________________
Vance87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2013   #29
IlliniJen
Hall of Fame
 
IlliniJen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Midtown, Houston
Age: 42
Posts: 8,794
Rep Power: 147527 IlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respectedIlliniJen is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by 76Texan View Post
Big deal.

It could mean that the opponents only managed to get to our redzone four times and they scored 3 TDs.

Other teams may have a lower percentage, but they got burned by long bombs before the opponents get to the red zone.

It's better to combine everything on the field to come to a final conclusion.
Here's why it's a big deal and why I tried finding the stat. Coming into last week's game or the game prior, I heard a stat that the Texans D allowed 10 TDs in 11 red zone visits by opposing teams this season. That's a rather alarming number of red zone trips resulting in TDs, not the 3 out of 4 you were hoping it could mean.

Granted, the D has been working with short fields, but anyone watching this year's D can tell something is wrong. They'll play well for spurts, then just give up the booty on the next series.

With the offense, it's easy to point fingers at the QB position, RT and coaching as being piss poor, but where has our D gone? In two years...TWO YEARS, our D has gone from being dominant to a jekyl and hyde group of players who are really playing some bad ball.
__________________
IlliniJen - @Illini_Jen Oskee wow wow, Illinois!

"Fishing relaxes me. It's like yoga, except I get to kill something." - Ron Swanson
IlliniJen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2013   #30
Mr. White
H-Town Beatdown
 
Mr. White's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sugar Land
Age: 41
Posts: 6,011
Rep Power: 18101 Mr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respectedMr. White is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderkyss View Post
#1

So that means..... what?
I guess it means our defense bites this year after all. Our avg time of possession is 34:53.

For some background, time of possession usually tells the whole story when you have a defense giving up yards. If their offense can't keep them off the field, then it's an offensive problem. Looks like in our case, it's both.
__________________
Quote:
@McClain_on_NFL
John McClain
We b trippin with Nelly. Me and Mr Dancing With the Stars Warren Sapp.
Mr. White is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2013   #31
2slik4u
All Pro
 
2slik4u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: round rock
Section: My Couch
Age: 31
Posts: 955
Rep Power: 11791 2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected2slik4u is a quality contributor and well respected
Default Re: And the hits just keep on comin....

The offense and ST have given up 49 points so far which is about 8+ points a game. If take that off of the 29 point per game that we are currently averaging then that would put us at about 21 a game. That puts us at about 11th in the league of total scoring defense.

Not saying that tells the whole story but it helps a bit.

The defense needs to play better bottom line because these stats are misleading. We're not creating turnovers. We're not sacking the QB. We suck in the redone. Three big areas that need improvement.
__________________
Ill be where I'm at.

Last edited by 2slik4u; 10-17-2013 at 12:30 PM.
2slik4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com > The Great Fans of the Houston Texans > Texans Talk
Home Forums Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger