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Old 10-15-2013   #241
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good gawd look what the Chronicle posted...

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Im not sure anyone attempted to say all texans fan act in a certain way. For you to keep bringing up money someone makes to justify other issues is silly at best
NFL is business that makes money it will eventually get brought up that definitely makes more sense to talk about than making the fans accountable. Unless the tickets are paid for fans won't be at the game and players wouldn't be paid as much if at all. Players get upset and say things they don't necessarily mean but some players referred to texan fans. It could be comprehended as all texans fans when I know they were referring to the ones that cheered during the Schaub injury. That whole situation was hyped up by the media more than anything my whole point with that has been this teams focus needs to be about what they are doing on the field during the games not what fans are saying or doing in their seats.
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Is it ironic that a fan came to Matt Schaub's house and cursed him out then in the very same week Schaub gets on the field plays in ultra safe mode hoping not to make a mistake and ultimately ends up getting hurt... to me that sums up the football manhood and character of Matt Schaub. This guy... I don't know what to say other than Kubiak is definitely not making it any easier for the poor fella.
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Schaub said he heard and felt a "POP" which he thought was his ankle dislocating and relocating. This can happen with a grade II/III type of ligament tears. But, reviewing the play in slow motion over and over, I noticed something unique. It was evident that Schaub not only had his FOOT significantly INVERTED, but also DORSIFLEXED (pointing back up to his knee) severely. Certainly, no information has really been released. But this can be a classic presentation that fits an injury called "peroneal tendon subluxation." During the typical inversion ankle sprain, the foot rolls in. The forceful stretch on the peroneals can rip the retinaculum (part of the popping noise) that keeps the peroneal tendons positioned in the groove. [See diagrams below] As a result, the tendons can jump out of the groove (the other part of the popping noise). The tendons usually relocate by snapping back into place (completing the feeling the the ankle may have dislocated then relocated). But by then the damage is done, and the appropriate intelligent treatment is a boot/cast for 6 weeks...... most, if not all of that time non-weight-bearing. It should be noted, though, that non-surgical treatment is accompanied by ~50% recurrence rate in active athletes. This would normally result in either surgery or a retirement from the sport.

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Is it ironic that a fan came to Matt Schaub's house and cursed him out
no one cussed out schaub or even approached him..
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The fans were held "accountable" when they had to pay for overpriced parking, game day tickets, and then had to swallow overpriced beer just so they could be able to sit through the game they witnessed Sunday.

The fans have paid and have been paying their due for decades. What you witnessed Sunday was pent up frustration from a fan base that's tired of being held "accountable" and a fan base that's tired of paying dues. They want to see the fruits of their investment to start paying off. Matt Schaub was just a easy target.. but hey, setting NFL records for pick 6's will put you in the crosshairs.
& since some idi0t cheered when Schaub got injured, they'll probably jack prices up again.
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However, the quarterback, who is married and has three daughters, said to his knowledge nobody showed up in his driveway and screamed obscenities.
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Schaub said he heard and felt a "POP" which he thought was his ankle dislocating and relocating. This can happen with a grade II/III type of ligament tears. But, reviewing the play in slow motion over and over, I noticed something unique. It was evident that Schaub not only had his FOOT significantly INVERTED, but also DORSIFLEXED (pointing back up to his knee) severely. Certainly, no information has really been released. But this can be a classic presentation that fits an injury called "peroneal tendon subluxation." During the typical inversion ankle sprain, the foot rolls in. The forceful stretch on the peroneals can rip the retinaculum (part of the popping noise) that keeps the peroneal tendons positioned in the groove. [See diagrams below] As a result, the tendons can jump out of the groove (the other part of the popping noise). The tendons usually relocate by snapping back into place (completing the feeling the the ankle may have dislocated then relocated). But by then the damage is done, and the appropriate intelligent treatment is a boot/cast for 6 weeks...... most, if not all of that time non-weight-bearing. It should be noted, though, that non-surgical treatment is accompanied by ~50% recurrence rate in active athletes. This would normally result in either surgery or a retirement from the sport.

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During injury:



Here is a short simple diagramatic video of this type of injury for anyone interested (no blood or gore).

VIDEO
I still can't figure out why Kubiak is saying they dodged a bullet and that they are shooting him up in hopes that he may somehow be able to suit up this week. Yes, while that is unlikely what you are pointing out here raises the possibility of a severe matter that they would be required to disclose in full sooner than later...
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Exactly right. I don't care who the quarterback is as long as we're winning games. And if we're going to lose games, like we've been doing with Matt Schaub, I'd rather it be with a more exciting guy to watch. One that isn't going to just fall down and take a sack, or force an interception and poor throw every time he sees a strong pass rush. I've been craving an athletic and more mobile quarterback here in Houston for a long time. Why can't we catch on with the rest of the NFL? Hopefully Case Keenum makes the start at Kansas City on Sunday. I've seen enough of T.J. Yates myself. If Keenum fails then so be it. At least I'd have enjoyed watching the kid play.
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This is exactly where I am too.

Both Schaub and Yates seem to play with the same "make the safe throw" mindset. And apparently, opposing defenses know where that throw is going before they do.

Who to start...??

(a) The QB who goes thru his progressions and if no one is open throws the ball away - or worse

or

(b) the QB who goes thru his progressions and if he sees no one is open thinks "maybe I can run into that open area for a few yards and move the chains..."

hmmm... who to start...?
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good gawd look what the Chronicle posted...

God bless the Chronicle! This is getting more absurd by the minute, and am loving the entertainment value. A Tebow vs VY battle royale to see who will take the Texans to a six win season.

You can't write this stuff.
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God bless the Chronicle! This is getting more absurd by the minute, and am loving the entertainment value. A Tebow vs VY battle royale to see who will take the Texans to a six win season.

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Repped.
This is exactly where I am too.

Both Schaub and Yates seem to play with the same "make the safe throw" mindset. And apparently, opposing defenses know where that throw is going before they do.

Who to start...??

(a) The QB who goes thru his progressions and if no one is open throws the ball away - or worse

or

(b) the QB who goes thru his progressions and if he sees no one is open thinks "maybe I can run into that open area for a few yards and move the chains..."

hmmm... who to start...?
Mobile QB's are going down like flies too though.. The NFL is a passing league now, heck look at Dan Marino, heck I think Matt Schaub is faster than Dan Marino.. but Marino had pocket presence..

I'd rather have a good passing QB, that understands pocket presence and how to move in the pocket and keep the play alive.
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Lol you believe that? Of course Schaub downplayed it!!!
Either you saw it go down (which you didn't) or you believe what Schaub says because he was there. Why does he need to downplay the behavior of "barbaric" (Thanks Cushing!) fans? You prefer to believe some hyped up media angle than take the word of the man who lives at that house. Yeah, OK.
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NFL is business that makes money it will eventually get brought up that definitely makes more sense to talk about than making the fans accountable. Unless the tickets are paid for fans won't be at the game and players wouldn't be paid as much if at all. Players get upset and say things they don't necessarily mean but some players referred to texan fans. It could be comprehended as all texans fans when I know they were referring to the ones that cheered during the Schaub injury. That whole situation was hyped up by the media more than anything my whole point with that has been this teams focus needs to be about what they are doing on the field during the games not what fans are saying or doing in their seats.


The nfl is a business and no amount of money getting thrown around is justification for people acting like ****. Further no one working in reliant, for the nfl or one of the nfl teams should expect to have ice or anything else thrown at them outside of a football as that is far beyond the norm for said setting. You can keep talking about money but people's bad behavior have nothing to do with money or lack there of
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The fans aren't playing quarterback and making millions Schaub is and classless or not those players need to be focusing on doing their jobs. Every fan is different and so is every player. But the score on that scoreboard is the true representation of the BS that they're producing on the field.
I thought brining the man here from Atlanta was a mistake. I've never had any faith in him as a QB; however, applauding a man being physically injured is simply VILE. I've broken bones and had concussions and wouldn't wish that on ANYBODY (well...maybe ONE guy...but he sucks) Are you one of those guys who sits back and watches Nascar for wrecks or Reality TV on the off chance that someone get's hurt? Get off your couch man. Go out and participate in some kind of activity in which you MIGHT sustain an injury and if you break a bone of sprain something you have my word that I will sign your cast rather than laugh at you.
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good gawd look what the Chronicle posted...

Oh.....HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL No! Put Bill in. BILL! Get that girl off your lap and go to practice damn it!
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McClain reported that Schaub did not attend this morning's quarterbacks' meeting.....he was getting treatments. He doesn't think Schaub will play Sunday (now that shocks me).

Kubiak reports that Schaub's foot today is quite swollen and painful. He was "standing" on the sideline during practice. I wonder if anyone says what he was wearing on his right foot........sandals, tennies, taped and bare foot on crutches, boot or cast........it wouldn't surprise me if we hear nothing.........
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