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Old 10-13-2013   #181
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Like I said earlier, there were plays to be made left on the field. For whatever reason, Schaub isn't pulling the trigger. Against SF Collinsworth said accuracy has to be Matt's thing. While it does have to be one of his "things" efficiently executing the play book has to be Matt's thing. That is the primary reason he should hold on to the starting position.

If he can't do that, if he's not accurate, if he can't take care of the ball... I can't think of what he brings to the table that Tj & Case can not.
How many wr's in tight coverage did Matt hit today?

Seems like the only guys he threw to were short routes and guys that were wide open in the rams horrid zone defense. He's not looking to make those throws because he's not good enough.

I don't get the beating round the bush. I don't care why he can't do it...weak arm, tender foot, unathletic, shell shocked, 'cuffed....who cares.

He's never been a guy that throws well into good coverage with any kind if consistency. But this year when teams are gunning for us and have an ounce of talent and good coaching we struggle mightily.


These are the same problems that people have been complaining about for years, but now since we are a targeted team playing even a somewhat tough schedule we're exposed. Can't hide those warts behind shiny stats forever.
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How many wr's in tight coverage did Matt hit today?

Seems like the only guys he threw to were short routes and guys that were wide open in the rams horrid zone defense. He's not looking to make those throws because he's not good enough.

I don't get the beating round the bush. I don't care why he can't do it...weak arm, tender foot, unathletic, shell shocked, 'cuffed....who cares.
This offense didn't even challenge the back end of the Rams secondary. A secondary full of young, inexperienced players missing their best cornerback, or at least their veteran cb if you think Jenkins is a better player than punchdrunk. No back shoulder toss..no deep ball. Just underneath David Carr specials.
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This offense didn't even challenge the back end of the Rams secondary. A secondary full of young, inexperienced players missing their best cornerback, or at least their veteran cb if you think Jenkins is a better player than punchdrunk. No back shoulder toss..no deep ball. Just underneath David Carr specials.
Yep.

I was surprised that we didn't at least throw one up deep to Dre or Hopkins just to loosen the rams up some....let them know we're going to challenge them.

Who knows...maybe me might actually catch it or get a PI.

Guess that's to wild for us.
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Yep.

I was surprised that we didn't at least throw one up deep to Dre or Hopkins just to loosen the rams up some....let them know we're going to challenge them.

Who knows...maybe me might actually catch it or get a PI.

Guess that's to wild for us.
We would of, if, you know, Schaub could still throw it that far.
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How many wr's in tight coverage did Matt hit today?

Seems like the only guys he threw to were short routes and guys that were wide open in the rams horrid zone defense. He's not looking to make those throws because he's not good enough.

I don't get the beating round the bush. I don't care why he can't do it...weak arm, tender foot, unathletic, shell shocked, 'cuffed....who cares.

He's never been a guy that throws well into good coverage with any kind if consistency. But this year when teams are gunning for us and have an ounce of talent and good coaching we struggle mightily.


These are the same problems that people have been complaining about for years, but now since we are a targeted team playing even a somewhat tough schedule we're exposed. Can't hide those warts behind shiny stats forever.
I only remember a few times he hit Andre in stride. He dirsnt throw those types of passes enough or Kubiak doesn't let his other receivers run those types of routes. Either way it didn't matter after being down early because this is not the Matt Schaub of week one that could bring back a team from a deficit. The team is saddled with a QB that is being protected by a system that tries not to expose his deficiencies thus killing any come from behind attack.
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This offense didn't even challenge the back end of the Rams secondary. A secondary full of young, inexperienced players missing their best cornerback, or at least their veteran cb if you think Jenkins is a better player than punchdrunk. No back shoulder toss..no deep ball. Just underneath David Carr specials.
Even if they are incomplete at least you could get a helpful pass interference penalty. I miss the good old days where Schaub would throw the ball deep down the field as far as he could and a wide open streaking Andre Johnson would stop and wait two seconds for the ball to catch up to him for 40 yard completion.
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Stop shooting the messenger. If you want more deep balls, more vertical routes, then beg for a new coach. Going deep and taking chances isn't our offensive philosophy, unless it's off a PA bootleg. Schaub is just playing the offense as it was designed. That should have been obvious when Yates came in and basically did the same thing.
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Stop shooting the messenger. If you want more deep balls, more vertical routes, then beg for a new coach. Going deep and taking chances isn't our offensive philosophy, unless it's off a PA bootleg. Schaub is just playing the offense as it was designed. That should have been obvious when Yates came in and basically did the same thing.
The backup messenger is as inept as his predecessor in delivering the package as his was also intercepted With a stamp 'return to sender'
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