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Old 10-13-2013   #141
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I guarantee matt schaub will have a break out game playing a complete game plus everyone talking about superbowl again. book it!
I think everyone gets it. Let's stop re-posting in every thread, OK?
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should have activated case today. then again, the kubiak regime stinks regardless who's behind the center.
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I said it in this thread earlier. Yates is not the answer. There may not be any QB on our roster that's the answer considering the way that all 3 phases played today, but Kubiak has to think about playing Case right now. Just do something!
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Case should be active and should play next week because we need to see how he performs in live fire. If he's amazing then that's awesome and we use him. If he's bad we can start sending all our scouts out to follow Louisville, Clemson, Oregon, and A&M
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I said it in this thread earlier. Yates is not the answer. There may not be any QB on our roster that's the answer considering the way that all 3 phases played today, but Kubiak has to think about playing Case right now. Just do something!
On the flip side, it feels like the Kubiak game plan sets up a QB -- almost **any* QB -- for failure, and if Keenum can be an adequate NFL QB I'd rather it be with a new regime, a new start for the team and one that won't leave him the psychological baggage of failing in the Kubiak system.
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how many long balls thrown today?
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how many long balls thrown today?
Indeed. I'm not sure Keenum's skill set is a good fit for Kubiak's "offense".
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Can someone tell me why Keenum would not be activated in todays game?
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Indeed. I'm not sure Keenum's skill set is a good fit for Kubiak's "offense".
i'm not sure either, but i'd like to find out. case holds the clip board the best.
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Can someone tell me why Keenum would not be activated in todays game?
Partially, Kubiak's sense of loyalty -- which is a good trait to a point, until it blinds you to changes that NEED to be made. Schaub is his guy, and Yates has been his #2. As long as those two are on the roster, that will probably never change in Kubiak's mind.
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I said it in this thread earlier. Yates is not the answer. There may not be any QB on our roster that's the answer considering the way that all 3 phases played today, but Kubiak has to think about playing Case right now. Just do something!
And when case throws his pick 6 on an out right to the TE or AJ, then what?

There's no doubt that a better qb would make us a better team...but as i sit and watch the current steelers, giants, falcons and to a lesser extent packers....teams who have qb's infinitely better than schaub but have other things holding their teams back......i mean how much better are we going to be with the same bum ass head coach?

This teams issues are deeper than just 1 player...the HC and his system have been exposed and he has absolutely no answer on how to counter.
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This game elevated Keenum's status.
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This game elevated Keenum's status.
Pretty sad when your stock goes way up even when you did nothing....
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And when case throws his pick 6 on an out right to the TE or AJ, then what?

There's no doubt that a better qb would make us a better team...but as i sit and watch the current steelers, giants, falcons and to a lesser extent packers....teams who have qb's infinitely better than schaub but have other things holding their teams back......i mean how much better are we going to be with the same bum ass head coach?

This teams issues are deeper than just 1 player.
Maybe Case reads defenses better and doesn't try that play regardless of what is called? Maybe Case tucks it and runs for 4 yards or more. Maybe Case scrambles and makes a play....

We know what Yates and Matt will do with it, but from what I've seen of Case is that he's mentally quicker than both. It WAS just preseason, but that's just what I've seen of him.
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Pretty sad when your stock goes way up even when you did nothing....
actually case had done something in preseason, practice, and camp. he's just waiting in line.
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And when case throws his pick 6 on an out right to the TE or AJ, then what?

There's no doubt that a better qb would make us a better team...but as i sit and watch the current steelers, giants, falcons and to a lesser extent packers....teams who have qb's infinitely better than schaub but have other things holding their teams back......i mean how much better are we going to be with the same bum ass head coach?

This teams issues are deeper than just 1 player...the HC and his system have been exposed and he has absolutely no answer on how to counter.
At this point you have to realize that the Texans aren't going to the Super Bowl. Realizing that you have to evaluate your roster to make the correct decisions moving forward. If Case comes in and throws up all over himself then the team needs to look for a franchise QB in the upcoming draft. Not that hard to figure out.
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And when case throws his pick 6 on an out right to the TE or AJ, then what?

There's no doubt that a better qb would make us a better team...but as i sit and watch the current steelers, giants, falcons and to a lesser extent packers....teams who have qb's infinitely better than schaub but have other things holding their teams back......i mean how much better are we going to be with the same bum ass head coach?

This teams issues are deeper than just 1 player...the HC and his system have been exposed and he has absolutely no answer on how to counter.
You're right, you're right...you're right! BUT! Did you notice in the pre-season when they had Case both under center...AND...they worked him a great deal in the spread offense, especially the last pre-season game? It happened.

That means it's in the playbook. That also means that there is at least some willingness to break from the same ol' same ol'. (At least there is that hope).

Having said that, you don't dip into the Keenum pool too deeply until the season is lost, numbers wise. At 2-4 it's still not.
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At this point you have to realize that the Texans aren't going to the Super Bowl. Realizing that you have to evaluate your roster to make the correct decisions moving forward. If Case comes in and throws up all over himself then the team needs to look for a franchise QB in the upcoming draft. Not that hard to figure out.




The bolded needs to happen regardless of what case does....
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You're right, you're right...you're right! BUT! Did you notice in the pre-season when they had Case both under center...AND...they worked him a great deal in the spread offense, especially the last pre-season game? It happened.

That means it's in the playbook. That also means that there is at least some willingness to break from the same ol' same ol'. (At least there is that hope).

Having said that, you don't dip into the Keenum pool too deeply until the season is lost, numbers wise. At 2-4 it's still not.
I think it's just about time.

Matt didn't come in there and tear it up exactly. You were blown out twice now and now on a 4 game losing streak. You go out there and try the same old same old and I'm sure the players will start to roll their eyes.

What you're doing is not working, so something major has to change.
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Can someone tell me why Keenum would not be activated in todays game?
All 53 players can't be active. I believe only 47 or something. So the third qb usually isn't active.
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