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Old 10-11-2013   #121
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If Keenum is inactive, then Daniels would go in after Yates. If Keenum is active, Daniels would go in after Keenum.

Schaub Yates Keenum OD Lechler. Nothing to see here, carry on.
I thought that there is a rule that says if your #1 and #2 QBs are injured your #3 can play even if he isn't on the gameday roster. Or am I wrong on this?
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I thought that there is a rule that says if your #1 and #2 QBs are injured your #3 can play even if he isn't on the gameday roster. Or am I wrong on this?
Uh... not sure. I remember people saying during the SF game that if Schaub and Yates were both knocked out Owen Daniels would have been QB
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I thought that there is a rule that says if your #1 and #2 QBs are injured your #3 can play even if he isn't on the gameday roster. Or am I wrong on this?
If you aren't active you don't play.
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It is in Kubiaks best interest to play Case now. If he throws TJ out there now and he struggles the record get worse and the playoffs are gone. Right now we are 2-3 and still in the thick of it.

You play Case after the record is shot and he plays good the pundits will be screaming "Why did you wait?". Play him now and he struggles you still have TJ but at the same time you shut up the redbloods. If he plays good Kubiak looks like a "smart guy".

It really would be a win win for Gary.
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It is in Kubiaks best interest to play Case now. If he throws TJ out there now and he struggles the record get worse and the playoffs are gone. Right now we are 2-3 and still in the thick of it.

You play Case after the record is shot and he plays good the pundits will be screaming "Why did you wait?". Play him now and he struggles you still have TJ but at the same time you shut up the redbloods. If he plays good Kubiak looks like a "smart guy".

It really would be a win win for Gary.
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It is in Kubiaks best interest to play Case now. If he throws TJ out there now and he struggles the record get worse and the playoffs are gone. Right now we are 2-3 and still in the thick of it.

You play Case after the record is shot and he plays good the pundits will be screaming "Why did you wait?". Play him now and he struggles you still have TJ but at the same time you shut up the redbloods. If he plays good Kubiak looks like a "smart guy".

It really would be a win win for Gary.
You definitely have a really good point. I think Schaub has 1 more bad game left in him. But I don't think Kubiak has the balls to make that big of a move.
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You definitely have a really good point. I think Schaub has 1 more bad game left in him. But I don't think Kubiak has the balls to make that big of a move.
The ballsy thing to do is to stick with Schaub... much like McNair sticking with Kubiak after 6-10.

Starting Case would be the easy thing. Expectations would be dropped accordingly. If we were to make the play-offs, even 1 & done might be celebrated depending on Keenum's perceived ceiling.

If Kubiak's job was not on the line after 3 straight losses, it is now that he's decided to stay with Matt.
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The ballsy thing to do is to stick with Schaub... much like McNair sticking with Kubiak after 6-10.

Starting Case would be the easy thing. Expectations would be dropped accordingly. If we were to make the play-offs, even 1 & done might be celebrated depending on Keenum's perceived ceiling.

If Kubiak's job was not on the line after 3 straight losses, it is now that he's decided to stay with Matt.
Should have been more clear: based on how Matt plays vs. the Rams. Personally, if the Texans win but Matt plays like bull dung then he needs to be benched
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The ballsy thing to do is to stick with Schaub... much like McNair sticking with Kubiak after 6-10.

Starting Case would be the easy thing. Expectations would be dropped accordingly. If we were to make the play-offs, even 1 & done might be celebrated depending on Keenum's perceived ceiling.

If Kubiak's job was not on the line after 3 straight losses, it is now that he's decided to stay with Matt.
Sorry, but I disagree. It would be flat out stupid to stick with Schaub with a roster like this...... Not ballsy. Going with a second year undrafted QB while the team still has a chance for the playoffs? That takes guts. It would be easy and obvious for Kubiak to go with Yates if he makes the switch. Uncle Bob was the one who backed Kubiak and Schaub after his surgery and gave him a new contract so it would be easy for him to let Kubiak off the hook for sticking with him.
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The keenum bandwagon is crazy and the kubiak hate is at a all time high. I won't bring still pics like 76Texan do because he's a lot better at that than I am. I will say that if you watch the all 22 you will see matt isn't even reading coverage. He's been like this for awhile as other have pointed out with the target ratio to andre and daniels. Matt isn't even looking at hopkins or martin or anyone else not name andre or one of the slow ass te's. There are plays out thereand he refuses to make them.

In regards to the case bandwagon,I hate to say it again and again. Case does not have a nfl arm imo and what I've seen in camp. When I watched him on the sideline throwing the ball, he has no pop or velocity on the ball. Yes he's more mobile than matt,that's not saying much,but teams would play him the same way as schaub because he can't threaten the field outside the numbers. I've had this discussion before and people will bring up the preseason sideline throw to martin or jean. Good accurate throw,that was a good shot play. In the real season,teams are gonna make him drive the ball outside. Which his not capable of doing. I'm just saying.




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I thought that there is a rule that says if your #1 and #2 QBs are injured your #3 can play even if he isn't on the gameday roster. Or am I wrong on this?
That used to be the rule. Last year they changed it to make that 46th active roster spot permanent and you could decide whether to carry the third qb or not.
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Case Keenums best attribute is his ball placement. It's the one thing that shines far above Schaub and Yates.
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Case Keenums best attribute is his ball placement. It's the one thing that shines far above Schaub and Yates.
I'd like to see it against NFL starters in a game that counts. Leading a receiver is fine, but an inch too much, an inch too high & it could be an interception.

Case is going to have to adjust his game to "real" NFL speed, there's no way around it. From reading a defense, going through his progressions, leading a receiver & most importantly, shaking off a bad play.

No doubt the future looks promising, but even in Matt's slump, he's doing these things pretty well. We might not like the way it looks, but take away the INTs & he's doing a good job. Not great.... I know it. But you don't throw away "good" for what "might be" great.

That would have been like Harbaugh switching Smith for Kaepernick without ever seeing Collin in a real game. It didn't happen. We don't know if it would have happened if Alex threw 9 INTs in 5 games. We think it would have, but we don't know that.

& I know you can't say, "Take away the INTs..." they happened, I know they happened. That's not the point.

Keenum will get his shot. There's a reason they put him on the active roster. I would have done swapped them by now, but the Texans have a plan & they decided to stick with that plan for now.
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I'd like to see it against NFL starters in a game that counts. Leading a receiver is fine, but an inch too much, an inch too high & it could be an interception.

Case is going to have to adjust his game to "real" NFL speed, there's no way around it. From reading a defense, going through his progressions, leading a receiver & most importantly, shaking off a bad play.

No doubt the future looks promising, but even in Matt's slump, he's doing these things pretty well. We might not like the way it looks, but take away the INTs & he's doing a good job. Not great.... I know it. But you don't throw away "good" for what "might be" great.

That would have been like Harbaugh switching Smith for Kaepernick without ever seeing Collin in a real game. It didn't happen. We don't know if it would have happened if Alex threw 9 INTs in 5 games. We think it would have, but we don't know that.

& I know you can't say, "Take away the INTs..." they happened, I know they happened. That's not the point.

Keenum will get his shot. There's a reason they put him on the active roster. I would have done swapped them by now, but the Texans have a plan & they decided to stick with that plan for now.


Matt Schaub knows that better than any other quarterback in nfl history.
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It is in Kubiaks best interest to play Case now. If he throws TJ out there now and he struggles the record get worse and the playoffs are gone. Right now we are 2-3 and still in the thick of it.

You play Case after the record is shot and he plays good the pundits will be screaming "Why did you wait?". Play him now and he struggles you still have TJ but at the same time you shut up the redbloods. If he plays good Kubiak looks like a "smart guy".

It really would be a win win for Gary.
This theory all rides in the assumption that Case will play well. What happens if he comes in now, plays poorly, and we lose the next 3-4 games due to poor QB play? But then TJ comes in and plays well to end the season?

I'll tell you what will happen. Kubiak will get fired, and Keenum's chances as a future starter in this league will be long gone.
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case is 3rd. schaub is our savior when he gets his mind back. we'll all be chanting superbowl again. you guys wait. go schaub!
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case is 3rd. schaub is our savior when he gets his mind back. we'll all be chanting superbowl again. you guys wait. go schaub!
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This theory all rides in the assumption that Case will play well. What happens if he comes in now, plays poorly, and we lose the next 3-4 games due to poor QB play? But then TJ comes in and plays well to end the season?

I'll tell you what will happen. Kubiak will get fired, and Keenum's chances as a future starter in this league will be long gone.
Nah, because kubiak would get a job somewhere overnight and take keenum with him. Only then would we find out case is montana 2.0. Yeah, i'm that glass half empty guy.
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I guarantee matt schaub will have a break out game playing a complete game plus everyone talking about superbowl again. book it!

don't worry, case will start in 2015.
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