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Old 10-10-2013   #1341
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so if schaub has a big bounce back game and we win,

is all forgiven? forgotten?
One good game does not erase what I believe to be happening to Schaub.
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One good game does not erase what I believe to be happening to Schaub.
Yeah but I honestly believe in Garys mind it mean everything is a-ok!
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my concern is matt does enough to keep his job but doesnt do nearly enough to win in the playoffs (heck even get to the playoffs) and gets to stay on another year and its the same old song and dance for one more year.

Id rather take a chance and sacrifice this season and find out what we have in yates and keenum so we can make a strategic plan on drafting a qb with this upcoming class.

keeping schaub as starter just holds everything back.

-we dont get to find out what we have in yates and keenum
-we win enough to lose draft position to draft a possible game changer at qb in a potentially very good qb class
-we win but dont challenge seriously for the superbow
-we lose two more years trying to figure out what we have in yates and keenum

Find out now.



I love the thought of tucking tail 5 games in and tanking the season. What drive
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I love the thought of tucking tail 5 games in and tanking the season. What drive
Our defense would have none of that. If the offense did that, they'd beat the crap out of our offense and run it themselves. LOL
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how can it be tucking tail when your qb replacement could be possibly better than your quarterback who is setting infamous qb records?

benching schaub could get everything we want. we could get improve qb play from what we are getting and we get to find out about yates or/and keenum.

TJ Yates in his rookie year with no preparation led this team as far as our 7 year starter has.

Just think about that.

It is folding, tucking tail. You are holding on to a powerball odds to hope you can retire thinking Case or Yates can come through.

As to your playoff stat line again its beyond a joke as Yates owes part of his playoff win to what Matt was able to do prior to going down. Think about that for a second


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Now yates has had a full couple years under his belt and if he has any potential now would be a perfect time to find out. Schaub's play has warranted at least a look. Yates should do better now right?

If not, then he is what a lot of people thought he was, nothing more than another back up.

Ill tell you right now, did not like Yates answers to questions about schaub and his potential at starting.

Instead of exuding confidence in himself, he talked like a scared back up. He doesnt have the psyche of a starter.

I would have much rather hear him say "its the coaches decision but i believe in my ability, and if the coach called my number, im ready and i believe i can get a job done."

I would have much rather hear him say that than deferring to schaub and sounding like a back up.

I hope case doesnt answer that question like that.



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you know you are gonna read it.

you know you are.

1) People who hate dissenting opinions and put people on ignore are the first ones to read the ignored post.

2) You read it then you go back to pretending to marginalize the person but you couldnt wait to read what he wrote.

Typical human being behavior. 3) People hate rush limbaugh but cant wait to see or read what he said.
1) Wrong as you can be.

2) Wrong as you can be, again.

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Kirk Cousins from Washington...

He is young, mobile(more than the Texans have now) and pretty much knows this system due to the fact he is under Shannahan squared. Has a decent arm and height. Still under a rookie contract for another couple of years...

Could probably trade for him now or by the deadline and he could start immediately and could be a very good choice for the rest of the year and on....

What would you give to get him from Washington and if you are the Texans are you on the phone asking about him?
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and why would they give him up with RGIII getting tossed around?
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and why would they give him up with RGIII getting tossed around?
We can trade TJ Yates and Ben Tate.
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We can trade TJ Yates and Ben Tate.


and why would they trade for yates and give anything up for tate when tate is free to go at the end of the year? Yates would have to be on par with Kirk
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and why would they give him up with RGIII getting tossed around?
Don't know if they would but maybe dangle a could of 2's at them and they could pick up a Manziel or Boyd, if they are still there, this draft...
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Don't know if they would but maybe dangle a could of 2's at them and they could pick up a Manziel or Boyd, if they are still there, this draft...



you would be better off not moving yates and using those magical picks to pick up one of those guys if they are still there
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and why would they trade for yates and give anything up for tate when tate is free to go at the end of the year? Yates would have to be on par with Kirk
No I think Cousins would much better than Yates just from what I have seen from both...
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you would be better off not moving yates and using those magical picks to pick up one of those guys if they are still there
Neither one of those guys I mentioned are the type QB Kubiak likes, Cousins is...

Manziel and Boyd would fit better in Washington than the Texans just by the system alone. Do you really see Kubaik using Boyd or Manziel to their fullest potential, ie their running ability?
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how is it powerball odds? Yates in his rookie year staring down receivers, took over a 7-3 team and was able to get a playoff win vs the bengals. now imagine a yates who has had a full camp and years of experience. stand to reason it would be improved play. Certainly he stands a chance of doing better than throwing 4 pick 6s in a row.

Those are not powerball odds. As for case, we wont know unless we try.

People win the lottery all the time.

More people lose playing the lottery so saying people win on the time is pointless. It is lottery odds that Case could take this place by storm or develope into a SuperBowl Qb, same with Yates. Lets be clear on Yates as you seem to try and compare he and schaub's one playoff win means they are equal.


Yates took over an 7-3 when we were in game 11 and Matt II had given TJ a lead that would win the game. TJ was 2-3 as a starter in the regular season 3-4 total.




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Interesting. Is that what you use when you try to sleep at night these last 4 weeks in your matt schaub jersey?


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No I think Cousins would much better than Yates just from what I have seen from both...


Then it would not make sense for Washington to part with him.
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It is folding, tucking tail. You are holding on to a powerball odds to hope you can retire thinking Case or Yates can come through.
Unless you have a lot of confidence in Kubiak's ability to design a gameplan to help these guys be successful.

I go back & forth all the time on this. I've never been a Schaub fan, but I've never been a hater either. He's outplayed a lot of more talented QBs & have put together a very nice NFL QB career.

But he's a back-up. He was a back-up when we got him & he's a back-up now. It's arguable that Sage would have had similar numbers had he been able to develop in this system, possibly more wins as Sage is a gamer, possibly more losses as he's a gambler as well.

If Kubiak were to decide that he can win with Tj/Keenum I'm down. But I'd feel much better about it if he made that decision at 2-3 rather than 6-8.

So in my mind, this has got to work. He's got to minimize Schaub's influence on the next couple of games, while collecting wins, while nursing Schaub's confidence back to "mediocre."

I remember what it was like when we played conservative all year long, then tried to open it up in December. Wasn't very good, kinda like what we're seeing now. If he can find a way to win despite the INTs & Pick6es, I'd be willing to see us continue to be aggressive (with the defense & run game stepping up) then trying to scale it back in the play-offs.

Like I said, I'm back & forth on this. I don't know what the right decision is & I'm glad it's not mine to make.
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Washington is not giving up Kirk Cousins. He has been good in their offense and was drafted by the current staff. They also don't have a problem at running back, so Tate is a no go. Just a fantasy land trade.
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and why would they trade for yates and give anything up for tate when tate is free to go at the end of the year? Yates would have to be on par with Kirk
Yeah and I dont think Alfred Morris is injured, so I seriously doubt WASH would even consider that trade. I could see them parting with Cousins, but it would have to include a high draft pick and a good player that would still be under contract beyond this season. I like Cousins and I want Cousins but I don't see it happening. It is almost as unlikely as The Texans dropping Schaub very soon.
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Cousins would be great, but they're not giving him up. Especially given the status of Griffin's health.
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