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Old 10-08-2013   #81
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That is just stupid.
Below are the winners since 1994 who came from schools in cities with population of less than 1M people

Of those, 10 came from schools whose cities have less than 200,000 people

1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado Boulder, CO pop. 101,000
1995 Eddie George Ohio State Columbus, OH pop 809,000
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida Gainsville, FL pop 126,000
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan Ann Arbor, MI pop 116,000
1998 Ricky Williams Texas Austin, TX pop 842,000
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin Madison, WI pop 240,000
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State Tallahasee, FL pop 186,000
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska Lincoln, NE pop 265,000
2003 Jason White Oklahoma Norman, OK pop 115,000
2006 Troy Smith Ohio State QB Columbus, OH pop 809,000
2007 Tim Tebow Florida Gainsville, FL pop 126,000
2008 Sam Bradford Oklahoma Norman, OK pop 115,000
2009 Mark Ingram Alabama Birminham, AL pop 212,000
2010 Cam Newton Auburn Auburn, AL pop 57,000
2011 Robert Griffin III Baylor University Waco, TX pop 127,000
2012 Johnny Manziel Texas A&M Bryan/College Station, TX pop 178,000
Stop, too many facts

Let's be real, if you go to A&M it is no big deal to go party in Austin or Houston on the weekends, if that's what's drawing football players.
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It's not all about partying. Living in Southern California > living in Bryan, Texas in almost every possible way.
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It's not all about partying. Living in Southern California > living in Bryan, Texas in almost every possible way.
Except that the locations of many BCS universities, including several long time winning programs, are more like Bryan/College Station than LA.
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Except that the locations of many BCS universities, including several long time winning programs, are more like Bryan/College Station than LA.

Well that really has nothing to do with the point he was making
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Except that the locations of many BCS universities, including several long time winning programs, are more like Bryan/College Station than LA.
I don't disagree, just giving another advantage that USC has over those programs if they're drawn to the climate, lifestyle, etc of a Southern California.

I love Florida State, but if I had my choice as a recruit, I would pick USC for exactly that reason. I doubt I am alone.
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Well that really has nothing to do with the point he was making
The point was people think you can't get as good talent to come to a&m because BCS is a small town and LA is LA. But many schools exist in small towns like BCS and they attract as good or better talent than USC.

So myth BUSTED
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The point was people think you can't get as good talent to come to a&m because BCS is a small town and LA is LA. But many schools exist in small towns like BCS and they attract as good or better talent than USC.

So myth BUSTED
People are saying that it is a combination of a number of things that give USC better recruits and a better shot at a consistent winner.

So, no myth.
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People are saying that it is a combination of a number of things that give USC better recruits and a better shot at a consistent winner.

So, no myth.
LOL

So it went from "No Heisman winners would pick a school in a small town like BCS over LA" to "It's a combination of things gives USC better recruits".

Of course it's a combination of things, including the coach, the direction the program is headed, the system, the depth chart, where the school is in relation to his family, whether they want to be near their family or leave the state".

USC is in a state that is talent rich, just like A&M. But USC is headed down and A&M is headed up. A&M also has a recent Heisman winner. If you don't think it's important, look at Baylor and how their program has skyrocketed since RG3 left.

Not everyone is attracted to the lifestyle of LA or Southern California. Also, any coach who hasn't actively recruited CA, would have to start over making in-roads with HS coaches and still has to fight off schools like UCLA, Stanford, Cal and others.

Plus, succeeding at USC isn't a slam dunk just because it's USC and in LA, as Lane Kiffen thoroughly proved. Further, if a coach is successful and winning at the school he is at and the money is close (which it will be in Sumlin's case) then it certainly is reasonable for a coach to stick around and continue the success rather than try to rebuild a program that was flushed into the crapper.
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LOL

So it went from "No Heisman winners would pick a school in a small town like BCS over LA" to "It's a combination of things gives USC better recruits".

Of course it's a combination of things, including the coach, the direction the program is headed, the system, the depth chart, where the school is in relation to his family, whether they want to be near their family or leave the state".

USC is in a state that is talent rich, just like A&M. But USC is headed down and A&M is headed up. A&M also has a recent Heisman winner. If you don't think it's important, look at Baylor and how their program has skyrocketed since RG3 left.

Not everyone is attracted to the lifestyle of LA or Southern California. Also, any coach who hasn't actively recruited CA, would have to start over making in-roads with HS coaches and still has to fight off schools like UCLA, Stanford, Cal and others.

Plus, succeeding at USC isn't a slam dunk just because it's USC and in LA, as Lane Kiffen thoroughly proved. Further, if a coach is successful and winning at the school he is at and the money is close (which it will be in Sumlin's case) then it certainly is reasonable for a coach to stick around and continue the success rather than try to rebuild a program that was flushed into the crapper.
You could argue USC is headed up since they went on ahead and canned Kiffin.
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Jeez, is this still being debated? The only thing for it is to wait and see what happens. If he leaves, he leaves. That's life and college football for you. If he stays, hooray.
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LOL

So it went from "No Heisman winners would pick a school in a small town like BCS over LA" to "It's a combination of things gives USC better recruits".

Of course it's a combination of things, including the coach, the direction the program is headed, the system, the depth chart, where the school is in relation to his family, whether they want to be near their family or leave the state".

USC is in a state that is talent rich, just like A&M. But USC is headed down and A&M is headed up. A&M also has a recent Heisman winner. If you don't think it's important, look at Baylor and how their program has skyrocketed since RG3 left.

Not everyone is attracted to the lifestyle of LA or Southern California. Also, any coach who hasn't actively recruited CA, would have to start over making in-roads with HS coaches and still has to fight off schools like UCLA, Stanford, Cal and others.

Plus, succeeding at USC isn't a slam dunk just because it's USC and in LA, as Lane Kiffen thoroughly proved. Further, if a coach is successful and winning at the school he is at and the money is close (which it will be in Sumlin's case) then it certainly is reasonable for a coach to stick around and continue the success rather than try to rebuild a program that was flushed into the crapper.
Do you regularly combine two different peoples posts into one thought process?
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Do you regularly combine two different peoples posts into one thought process?
When they are agreeing and defending the same statement/idea.
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You will never convince a true MAROON Aggie that

a. Most people/Coaches/Recruits would rather live in LA instead of B/CS. Even though if given his 1st choice Manziel, (You know the guy who has been responsible for bringing A&M all of this national acclaim) wouldn't be an Aggie had Mack recruited him. (Thanks Mack)
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You will never convince a true MAROON Aggie that

a. Most people/Coaches/Recruits would rather live in LA instead of B/CS. Even though if given his 1st choice Manziel, (You know the guy who has been responsible for bringing A&M all of this national acclaim) wouldn't be an Aggie had Mack recruited him. (Thanks Mack)
I think that's a pretty well known fact. He wanted to go to UT.

But UT's elite coach and elite recruiters failed to pick him up.
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You will never convince a true MAROON Aggie that

a. Most people/Coaches/Recruits would rather live in LA instead of B/CS. Even though if given his 1st choice Manziel, (You know the guy who has been responsible for bringing A&M all of this national acclaim) wouldn't be an Aggie had Mack recruited him. (Thanks Mack)
Why bother having an "a." if you don't have a "b." or a "c."


Personally I respect people who appreciate quiet small town living over the big city hustle.
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Why bother having an "a." if you don't have a "b." or a "c."


Personally I respect people who appreciate quiet small town living over the big city hustle.
I don't respect one group over another for their choice in residence but that doesn't really have anything to do with the point.
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I don't respect one group over another for their choice in residence but that doesn't really have anything to do with the point.
The point of my point about that point, is that just because more people would chose LA over CS, doesn't really make USC better than TAMU. There are several schools in LA, they aren't all better jobs than A&M for that reason.

I think USC is a better job. UCLA is a more comparable job. Both in LA.
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You will never convince a true MAROON Aggie that

a. Most people/Coaches/Recruits would rather live in LA instead of B/CS. Even though if given his 1st choice Manziel, (You know the guy who has been responsible for bringing A&M all of this national acclaim) wouldn't be an Aggie had Mack recruited him. (Thanks Mack)
Actually he really wanted to go to TCU

Seriously
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A&M just got a commit from another 5 star prospect.
I guess no one wants to play in C-Stat.
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