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Old 10-08-2013   #81
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Exactly (disaacks3). This is much like the years when our offense was throwing the ball around, piling up yards and points, and struggling to stay in games while the defense was giving up yards and points like crazy.... only reversed. Did anyone think that Kubiak wanted Schaub throwing the ball that much? Of course not. The failure of the defense to stop anybody made it a necessity to keep the pedal down on offense.

Now the fact that the offense won't score any points, or only scores them in one quarter and then parks itself in neutral the rest of the day is causing the defense to stay out there too long and to play under the kind of pressure you get when you know that any points you give up will be the margin of defeat since the offense isn't doing squat. When the offense gets all over the other team then your defense can take more chances because your opponent's offense has to become one dimensional to try and get back into the game.

We rarely see offenses doing that now because we're always playing keep-up/catch-up.
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The best shot for this team to win this season is for someone to go over the matt and slap the sh!t out of him, have him wake up and get his sh!t together. Everyone is talking about physical issues but I think most of this is mental which can be harder to deal with. If Matt was 135/212 8 td 4 int we would be 3-1 or 4-0.

Tj isnt going 135/212 8 Td and probably not 9 ints

Case despite his fan base I dont think he would go 64%
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Let Schaub call audibles and see what happens.
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Welp, looks like Uncle Rico got booted.....thread pages all jacked up and I can't see his posts anymore.

Did he just have a total meltdown or what? I saw he was getting pretty upset.
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Haha, I like that somehow WV is the other state with TX. That said who cares, the US public also elected the last 2 Presidents (obviously all Presidents but you get the point).

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People think Matt is just the best QB on the team. When you talk to non-texan fans about it, it isn't. "Give Case a shot, I like what I've seen with him."

It's "Whose case? What other option do you really have?"

It's like the first take discussion where Steven A Smith was like "Meh" on Yates and Skip told him who Case was and then that swayed his opinion a bit.
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Haha, I like that somehow WV is the other state with TX. That said who cares, the US public also elected the last 2 Presidents (obviously all Presidents but you get the point).

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People think Matt is just the best QB on the team. When you talk to non-texan fans about it, it isn't. "Give Case a shot, I like what I've seen with him."

It's "Whose case? What other option do you really have?"

It's like the first take discussion where Steven A Smith was like "Meh" on Yates and Skip told him who Case was and then that swayed his opinion a bit.
I posted this on a different NFL forum I post at and they all said they have their own teams best interests in mind. Basically they all feel if you put any good QB on that team it is scary for the rest of the league.

Maybe I should forward this to Kubiak
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I posted this on a different NFL forum I post at and they all said they have their own teams best interests in mind. Basically they all feel if you put any good QB on that team it is scary for the rest of the league.

Maybe I should forward this to Kubiak
That was my first thought when I saw that poll. Of course they think Schaub should start! It takes the Texans out of the race!!
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Could it be that most people not emotionally connected still think Schaub is the best option?
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Could it be that most people not emotionally connected still think Schaub is the best option?
It's probably that they haven't watched every Texans game of the season and haven't seen how bad he has actually been. Also, they probably don't know nearly as much about his poor stretch at the end of last year.
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Could it be that most people not emotionally connected still think Schaub is the best option?
More than likely it deals more with the fact they don't know about the team and it's struggles. They just see a team that won the division and been to the playoffs. That is about it. They look on the surface and won't dive deeper.

How many would know the Patriots game being a downward spiral for the Texans? That since that game up til now (including playoffs) we have been outscored 303-205. That out of these 11 games we loss by more than double digits in 6 of them. All they are talking about as is seems to be Romo for one interception (at a critical time albeit) while Schaub threw three with a fourth being dropped and one being returned for a TD. Oh and one of those should have also been returned if it didn't bounce into the air first.

So yeah they don't have nearly as deep of a look into the situation than our fanbase. Just like in the thread started by a Rams visitor here and a few of our posters say they don't know anything about the Rams. That's how fanbases are.
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Could it be that most people not emotionally connected still think Schaub is the best option?
That could certainly be a factor. They see a "pro bowl QB" with a loaded roster and probably think it's a slump.

2-3 is not the end of the world to the rest of the nation like it seems to be to Houston fans. I still think there is a lot of football left to play even with my current lack of confidence in Schaub.

I've watched a lot of football in the last four decades, and I've seen teams rebound from worse spots. I cannot, and will not, give up hope that this season is lost until it is actually lost.
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That could certainly be a factor. They see a "pro bowl QB" with a loaded roster and probably think it's a slump.

2-3 is not the end of the world to the rest of the nation like it seems to be to Houston fans. I still think there is a lot of football left to play even with my current lack of confidence in Schaub.

I've watched a lot of football in the last four decades, and I've seen teams rebound from worse spots. I cannot, and will not, give up hope that this season is lost until it is actually lost.
The Giants ended the Patsies perfect season, so anything is possible I agree. I just don't think it's going to happen with Schaub at QB. We'll see. Predicting the future is always silly. Even X-Files dated the alien invasion for 2012 and they missed. And I trust Mulder and Scully.
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The Giants ended the Patsies perfect season, so anything is possible I agree. I just don't think it's going to happen with Schaub at QB. We'll see. Predicting the future is always silly. Even X-Files dated the alien invasion for 2012 and they missed. And I trust Mulder and Scully.
Agreed. At this point Schaub is Jake Delhomme, his mind and confidence are completely gone. Combine that with his noodle arm (still believe he had a dead arm from week 12 onward last year) and he is finished as an NFL QB.
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Anyone here think if the second int wasn't bobble and the guy takes it cleanly to the endzone to make it two pick 6s in a game would that make it easier for kubiak to make a change? What if it was 3 pick 6s, which could have happen in SF?

Even though it didn't happen it still feel like it did to a lot of people I know. So in our minds we essentially have a QB that threw multiple pick 6s in a game that broke NFL record in consecutive games and yet Schaub will run out that field next week along side JJ Watt. Something wrong with this picture.
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The Giants ended the Patsies perfect season, so anything is possible I agree. I just don't think it's going to happen with Schaub at QB. We'll see. Predicting the future is always silly. Even X-Files dated the alien invasion for 2012 and they missed. And I trust Mulder and Scully.
Well I certainly agree. I think it's a low probability to see this team win the division, but it's not impossible. That little sliver of possibility is where my hope resides.

But, IMO, they would win in spite of Schaub.
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You're assuming the few defensive woes we have can all be laid at the feet of the Defense. It just isn't so.

If the Texans Offense could generate long drives and points, it changes the calculus of the opposing team's gameplan. As it stands right now, the Texans Defense is losing hope and motivation with the Offense laying (goose) eggs.

When you don't score a TD for more than 6 quarters, there's damn little your Defense can do.
That's rationalization. I'm pretty good at it. I'm good at recognizing it as well.
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