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Old 10-08-2013   #41
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Yea ok and 15 yard penalties in the final moments against Sharpton and Jackson didn't play into it right? Good grief get a grip.

Only thing I like about playing Yates or Keenum is that they can make a play on the interceptions they will throw.
Give me a break, dude. The worst thing a QB can do is throw a pick 6. Matt Schaub holds the NFL record for doing that 4 games in a row. I seriously doubt either Yates or Keenum will break that record.
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Yea ok and 15 yard penalties in the final moments against Sharpton and Jackson didn't play into it right? Good grief get a grip.

Only thing I like about playing Yates or Keenum is that they can make a play on the interceptions they will throw.
Those only happened because schaub blew it first. Its deflating to see your qb screw it up weekly.
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Yea ok and 15 yard penalties in the final moments against Sharpton and Jackson didn't play into it right? Good grief get a grip.

Only thing I like about playing Yates or Keenum is that they can make a play on the interceptions they will throw.
Problem is none of that happens if Schaub doesn't $hit his panties.
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Give me a break, dude. The worst thing a QB can do is throw a pick 6. Matt Schaub holds the NFL record for doing that 4 games in a row. I seriously doubt either Yates or Keenum will break that record.
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Those only happened because schaub blew it first. Its deflating to see your qb screw it up weekly.
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Problem is none of that happens if Schaub doesn't $hit his panties.

Yeah! What they said!
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It's ignorant to blame one person for losses in football.

I get it Schaub is stinking it up and he's the scapegoat, but when you go over the film with a fine toothed comb you can see how much this team is flawed and how many variables lead to a loss.

If we are packing it in then send out Keenum or Yates I'm fine with starting over, but don't expect them to be a football messiah who will lead these guys to the promised land.
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Yea ok and 15 yard penalties in the final moments against Sharpton and Jackson didn't play into it right? Good grief get a grip.

Only thing I like about playing Yates or Keenum is that they can make a play on the interceptions they will throw.
Seeing as how the defense only gave up 10 points on legitimate drives in regulation against the Seahawks, blaming the defense at all for the loss is ridiculous.
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Problem is none of that happens if Schaub doesn't $hit his panties.
How do you know the defense holds? They were getting burned the entire second half! The INT tied the game, it didn't lose it. Poor defensive plays and mental errors lost the game.
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Seeing as how the defense only gave up 10 points on legitimate drives in regulation against the Seahawks, blaming the defense at all for the loss is ridiculous.
Texans defense #1 in tha NFL, allowing a paltry 260.2 ypg. Jets are 2nd way back at 299 ypg
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For the record I'm neither a Schaub apologist nor a Yates/Keenum advocate. I'm just surprised at the emotional response to what I felt was pretty common sense football information. But its cool to let your emotions speak for you on a chat forum, what do you really have to lose? Reputation? LOL!
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Texans defense #1 in tha NFL, allowing a paltry 260.2 ypg. Jets are 2nd way back at 299 ypg
How good is this defense on 3rd/4th downs? Stats don't tell the full story. How many points has the defense scored? They suck against the run. I'm not giving them a free pass because the stats won't cloud what I see on the field.
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It's ignorant to blame one person for losses in football.

I get it Schaub is stinking it up and he's the scapegoat, but when you go over the film with a fine toothed comb you can see how much this team is flawed and how many variables lead to a loss.

If we are packing it in then send out Keenum or Yates I'm fine with starting over, but don't expect them to be a football messiah who will lead these guys to the promised land.
I bet if I look hard enough the earth's axis and/or the northern lights made the sun reflect too hard in the stadium so it was not on Schaub. fap fap fap

I'm sure there are some minute details we could debate. Unfortunately none of that matters. Schaub shat his pants, the game was lost /end

Not sure who think's Yates or Keenum would be world beaters. Money says they don't set NFL record for pick 6's.
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How good is this defense on 3rd/4th downs? Stats don't tell the full story. How many points has the defense scored? They suck against the run. I'm not giving them a free pass because the stats won't cloud what I see on the field.
do you watch the rest of the NFL? Nobody runs out a perfect offense or defense. Fact is that this defense would have even better stats and would not be on their heels if not for the QB putting them in bad situations.

I'll only agree on one thing you posted....Sharpton is awful. He gets SWALLOWED up on blocks and can't shed. Dude cost us a few stops this last weekend.
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Kubiak holding on to Schaub as the starter is not about loyalty. It's about pride and ego. He invested too much into Schaub and to flip on him now is equivalent to admitting it was a mistake or he was wrong. It's all about pride and ego. The same reason why McNair hasn't fire Kubiak. It's about not having to admit you're wrong.
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How do you know the defense holds? They were getting burned the entire second half! The INT tied the game, it didn't lose it. Poor defensive plays and mental errors lost the game.
If by entire second half you mean the one TD drive in the fourth quarter, yeah, I guess that's true. However, looking at the entire second half (not OT), here are the Seahawk drives:

3 plays, -2 yards, punt
6 plays, 19 yards, punt
3 plays, 0 yards, FG (after Tate's fumble)
14 plays, 98 yards, TD
3 plays, 2 yards, INT
1 play, -1 yard, end of regulation

5 real possessions, 117 total yards- doesn't look like they were getting burned to me.
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The defense has played great, but you have to admit that teams aren't exactly taking risks against our defense. The gameplan to beat the Texans is not to turn the ball over and play field position. SF didn't throw the ball downfield unless the guy was wide open.
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Kubiak holding on to Schaub as the starter is not about loyalty. It's about pride and ego. He invested too much into Schaub and to flip on him now is equivalent to admitting it was a mistake or he was wrong. It's all about pride and ego. The same reason why McNair hasn't fire Kubiak. It's about not having to admit you're wrong.
I don't think originally getting Schaub was a mistake...he did well for them, and got them to a certain point...Kubiak just needs to realize he's not productive anymore and move on.

As a caveat, obviously giving him that extension was a mistake.
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Kubiak is preparing to take the HC job at A&M when the current HC goes to USC.
**** that, I'd rather recall Kliff Kingsbury from Tech.
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How many other qbs in the nfl gets this many opportunities? 90% of the loss against the 49ers was on schaub.
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The defense has played great, but you have to admit that teams aren't exactly taking risks against our defense. The gameplan to beat the Texans is not to turn the ball over and play field position. SF didn't throw the ball downfield unless the guy was wide open.
Teams don't have to take risks against our defense because, right now, they should know our offense will give them a few gifts each game. That shouldn't take anything away from how the defense has performed.

When it comes down to it, if you take away the gift points the Texans have given up by turnovers deep in our territory, pick 6's, and the punt return against Baltimore, the defense is only giving up 16 points a game. That's really good. The offense and special teams are essentially giving up 12 points a game. That's horrible.
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This world beating defense should have stopped Wilson on 4th and 3 and all this banter is moot, but hold onto whatever accolade you want. For my money KC, SEA, and SF are better defenses than what we have here.
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