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Old 10-07-2013   #41
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No this is who he has always been in primetime... this same guy. Luckily he got hurt the year TJ Yates played in the playoffs. Matt Schaub was never the reason why we won games. His numbers are flawed due to the fact we were always down in games and he would bring us back to still lose most times. Last 8 games he has thrown an interception... now that the texans are relevant contender wise teams have been scouting us harder the last few years hence Schaub gets exposed and now looks worse when in reality this is the same quarterback we have always had. Wake up!
I'm as big a Schaub hater as anyone on this board, but that is wrong. Sorry. Schaub has shown in the past he's a very good QB, just not consistently. But now he's showing us he's not even that.

But anyway, I guess we both agree on he has to go. And I mean NOW.
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We signed Ed Reed to help us in the second half of the season and the playoffs. That's a fact. We didn't really care all that much about his early impact and I get that. I don't hold anything against the Texans for taking a shot at Reed. I applaud them for doing it. I do think that Reed was less than honest about his hip and that he had a pretty damn good idea that he would probably never deliver on the contract he signed. I think he probably felt like he wouldn't need to put up until late in the year anyway and then maybe he felt like he had another playoff run in him at best.

unfortunately we're not going to the playoffs this year and Ed Reed isn't going to make any difference at all.

Like I said, I applaud the Texans for taking a shot at someone. I just don't understand exactly why they'd go this deep into investing in Ed Reed and not make every possible effort to pursue Manning. He's only possibly the greatest QB in the history of QB's. It's nice to see the Texans taking the rare shot at an epic move. It would be nicer if their moves made more sense though.
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I'm as big a Schaub hater as anyone on this board, but that is wrong. Sorry. Schaub has shown in the past he's a very good QB, just not consistently. But now he's showing us he's not even that.

But anyway, I guess we both agree on he has to go. And I mean NOW.
Schaub has only been that when he is absolutely under no pressure. Playoffs and primetime games are nothing but pressure. He gave Cincinnati a touchdown last year in the playoffs. He is what he is.
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I was not a fan of the Ed Reed signing, and to think they didn't even offer Glover Quinn any contract. They didn't even give him a chance to stay a Texan. Ed Reed is Ahman Green part deux!! Paying big for people at the end of their careers I'll never understand. Make him a coach if you want, but don't pay a player on their way out. There is a reason Baltimore didn't want him...
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How about you wake up and stick to the topic of the thread please. We have plenty of Schaub-talk threads.
The Ed Reed topic was dead even before it started just like the game last night.
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How about you wake up and stick to the topic of the thread please. We have plenty of Schaub-talk threads.
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The Ed Reed topic was dead even before it started just like the game last night.
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We signed Ed Reed to help us in the second half of the season and the playoffs. That's a fact. We didn't really care all that much about his early impact and I get that. I don't hold anything against the Texans for taking a shot at Reed. I applaud them for doing it. I do think that Reed was less than honest about his hip and that he had a pretty damn good idea that he would probably never deliver on the contract he signed. I think he probably felt like he wouldn't need to put up until late in the year anyway and then maybe he felt like he had another playoff run in him at best.

unfortunately we're not going to the playoffs this year and Ed Reed isn't going to make any difference at all.

Like I said, I applaud the Texans for taking a shot at someone. I just don't understand exactly why they'd go this deep into investing in Ed Reed and not make every possible effort to pursue Manning. He's only possibly the greatest QB in the history of QB's. It's nice to see the Texans taking the rare shot at an epic move. It would be nicer if their moves made more sense though.
Maybe they did but Manning found Kubiak's system, playcalling and overall coaching ability wanting???
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Maybe they did but Manning found Kubiak's system, playcalling and overall coaching ability wanting???
There is zero indication that they even sniffed in Manning's direction. Kubiak is a control-freak on offense, and given that Manning is a self-sustaining, self-aware QB robot who can break down defenses, audible, and call his own plays in the huddle, he was not a good fit for Gary's ego. OFFENSE, I mean offense. Right.
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Season stats:

Ed Reed, 3 games, 3 starts, 8 tackles, 0 pdef, 0 int., 0 fumble rec.
5 mil a yr. avg. salary, plus the cost of hip surgery but not sure who pays for that.

Glover Quin, 5 games, 5 starts, 21 tackles, 4 pdef, 2 int. for 57 yds., 1 fumble rec.
4.7 mil a yr. avg. salary, younger healthier experienced productive and cheaper.
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I looked for Reed to bring veteran leadership back there against the big boy QBand be a mentor for swearinger. That was about it and so far I am not seeing much
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Definitely not putting the blame solely on him, but one incredible stat that I can't get out of my mind is this: Reed has played in 3 games for the Texans, and all 3 were losses for the Texans.
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correlation =/= causation.

but yes, Reed looks like hot ****.
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Ed Reed, 3 games, 3 starts, 8 tackles, 0 pdef, 0 int., 0 fumble rec.
5 mil a yr. avg. salary, plus the cost of hip surgery but not sure who pays for that.

Glover Quin, 5 games, 5 starts, 21 tackles, 4 pdef, 2 int. for 57 yds., 1 fumble rec.
4.7 mil a yr. avg. salary, younger healthier experienced productive and cheaper.
Eh, you're kind of leaving out the fact he has only been thrown at one time. Kind of hard to get any passes defended if they don't throw at you enough. Can't really hold that against him. He's just basically...out there.
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kubiak says the vernon davis touchdown was not ed reed's responsibility. Had a bust in coverage. #texans
This is the same guy who defended Schaub at halftime and threw the defense under the bus. His words aren't worth a damn. If Wade says it then I'll believe it.
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The Texans' defense is only giving up 17 points a game without the help from Schaub and the ST. If Ed Reed (who is playing like what you'd expect from a 35 year old player of his caliber) was our biggest problem, this would be a different season.
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Reed will be fine.

Getting his sea legs under him.
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Getting his sea legs under him.
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