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Old 10-07-2013   #1241
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Also... posted this in the NFL section of the board, but here it is again.

Matt Flynn's been released.


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The short and painful Matt Flynn era is over in Oakland. Flynn has been released by the Raiders, CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora has confirmed. Oakland obtained Flynn in an April Fool's Day trade with the Seahawks. In exchange for the quarterback, the Raiders sent a 2014 fifth-round pick to Seattle.
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Also... posted this in the NFL section of the board, but here it is again.

Matt Flynn's been released.




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-qb-matt-flynn


Do we give him a call?
I don't think so. Who would we cut? We can't have 4 QBs on the roster and I don't think he's shown anything that would put him above Yates.
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Geez, just thought about the possibility that Cortland (F)innegan could take one to the house against us. Talk about the last laugh.
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Geez, just thought about the possibility that Cortland (F)innegan could take one to the house against us. Talk about the last laugh.
AJ would lose his mind.
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Geez, just thought about the possibility that Cortland (F)innegan could take one to the house against us. Talk about the last laugh.
I was thinking about that this morning also, would anyone really be surprised?
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One of the first questions to ask the next QB is what number is he going to wear? If the guy says number 8 we move on. That number is forever cursed.
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we could be the first team that has some sort of bizarro number retirement shrine where nobody can use it going forward. We can put Tony Boselli's jersey in the shrine.
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College and preseason play is weak "proof" of his ability to do things that Yates and Schaub cannot.

But again, I'm all aboard the start Keenum train because I will be happy if he wins for us and I'll be happy if all this unfounded Keenum love stops. I'm adopting a wait and watch policy on him. I don't think he is as special as many posters here think he is, but if he really and truly is then this team is better for it, and that's all that matters at the end of the day.
That's an outstanding attitude to take about it. It really would be a win-win. Either he's the savior waiting in the wings that many of us hope and/or believe he is or we get it over with and move on to the next potential candidate.
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I don't think so. Who would we cut? We can't have 4 QBs on the roster and I don't think he's shown anything that would put him above Yates.
This is my thought as well. There's obviously some reason he hasn't stuck in either Seattle or Oakland, so...
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Obligatory...



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You ever seen Matt Schaub throw a pick 6?.... You ever see Matt Schaub throw a pick 6... ON WEED?!

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Schaub's QB rating for the last 4 games: 76.6 / 72.8 / 81.6 / 32.2

Schaub's pass completion % against 49ers: 54.2 (19/35)
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I thought he had a mouse in his pocket.




Whether they are or not, we're going to start hearing about them.
I thought it was a turd the way it smelled.

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Schaub's QB rating for the last 4 games: 76.6 / 72.8 / 81.6 / 32.2

Schaub's pass completion % against 49ers: 54.2 (19/35)
You had said before that the tendon in the repaired foot becomes inflamed and painful like tendonitis after prolonged use. You had also said that the only remedy for this is rest. I'm thinking that after Schaub had one poor performance, he practiced extra hard to rebound and rebuild confidence, and he didn't allow time for his foot to rest. This affected him in the next game, which was a disaster, so he worked extra hard again, and just compounded the problem. By trying to work through it, his accuracy and confidence degrade each week. He's grinding the gears and becoming a psychological wreck.
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You had said before that the tendon in the repaired foot becomes inflamed and painful like tendonitis after prolonged use. You had also said that the only remedy for this is rest. I'm thinking that after Schaub had one poor performance, he practiced extra hard to rebound and rebuild confidence, and he didn't allow time for his foot to rest. This affected him in the next game, which was a disaster, so he worked extra hard again, and just compounded the problem. By trying to work through it, his accuracy and confidence degrade each week. He's grinding the gears and becoming a psychological wreck.
Except for the foot structure affected being ligament (and arthritic bone) rather than tendon, resulting discomfort and stiffness leading to abnormal mechanics is the progression that would be expected........improved to some extent with rest.........and easily aggravated with return to traumatic activity.
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Matt Schaub has finally made it big. I present to you... Schaubing!





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Damn I got a good laugh out of that!!!! Rep your way!!!! Freaking hilarious even if it's sad but true.
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What Qb after starting his career as a back up, being traded to another team, starting and enjoying success, then being benched after throwing 4 straight pick 6's, went on to post-season success and Super Bowl glory?
I don't know. Were you going to tell us?
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Also... posted this in the NFL section of the board, but here it is again.

Matt Flynn's been released.




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...-qb-matt-flynn


Do we give him a call?
So we can go all Schaub v2.0? I don't think so. Haven't we seen enough of back up QB's with a couple of good games wasting a butt ton of talent on both sides of the ball? sigh.....
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Except for the foot structure affected being ligament (and arthritic bone) rather than tendon, resulting discomfort and stiffness leading to abnormal mechanics is the progression that would be expected........improved to some extent with rest.........and easily aggravated with return to traumatic activity.
Do you think this is the root cause of his decline? It would make sense if the timeframe began after the Detroit game last season, where he was getting beat up by Suh and had to play into overtime. That's when the losing streak started.
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Default Young QB jealousy, we need a stud QB prospect this year.

I admit, I am jealous watching team after team with young, talented, mobile QBs. Geno Smith tonight look great. He took OWNERSHIP of his mistakes last week (pathetic Schaub can learn). I want a shiny, young QB prospect. We have a dinosaur of a QB with an antiquated offense.
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What Qb after starting his career as a back up, being traded to another team, starting and enjoying success, then being benched after throwing 4 straight pick 6's, went on to post-season success and Super Bowl glory?
Well, considering that Schaub is the owner of that little jewel of a record, I'd have to say nobody. I would go so far as to cite one of my favorite Western's, but Schaub is armed with a .25 in a league full of .45's. Ah hell, maybe some of y'all will enjoy a good ole Spaghetti Western.

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