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Old 10-06-2013   #2001
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Default Re: At what point does Kubiak run out of leash?

If we go 8-8 or better, i think he stays and bob give him the opportunity to pick another qb......which is the worst case scenario in my mind....besides keeping the status quo that is...

7-9 or worse and i actually think Bob pulls the trigger..
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i think there will be enough of an uproar this time. Seems like 70 percent of people already want some change
I would hope that you were right, but I can assure you that Kubiak will be back for at least one more season. Mcnair loves him like a son, and Mcnair is terrified of change. He hates the thought of new coaches and a new GM which is exactly what he would have to do with Smith as well who is a Kubiak disciple. We are stuck with Kubes.
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That I hope Kubiak loses the locker room? To the point that Uncle Bob is forced to make a change, though I realize it wouldn't be until after the season. Worst possible scenario is they do just enough to barely miss, or make the playoffs, enough to consider it a "good season". Don't want any of that. Constantly not having your team ready and getting embarrassed when the lights are bright, I have to think last night would carry some weight in making a move.
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Default Re: At what point does Kubiak run out of leash?

Kinda random, but wasn't it Kubiak's idea to only be extended an additional 2 years? Saying something like he's hoping to be worth a lot more (SB winner) by then. I reckon I can give him props for that....unless McNair extends him again lol
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Kinda random, but wasn't it Kubiak's idea to only be extended an additional 2 years? Saying something like he's hoping to be worth a lot more (SB winner) by then. I reckon I can give him props for that....unless McNair extends him again lol
McNair did it for David Carr in a similar scenario.
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I would hope that you were right, but I can assure you that Kubiak will be back for at least one more season. Mcnair loves him like a son, and Mcnair is terrified of change. He hates the thought of new coaches and a new GM which is exactly what he would have to do with Smith as well who is a Kubiak disciple. We are stuck with Kubes.
QFT. I would be shocked if Kubiak is gone next year.

Besides, our ox is not stuck in the ditch right now. They just need to "look at the tape" to fix it according to the beleaguered head coach.
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I would hope that you were right, but I can assure you that Kubiak will be back for at least one more season. Mcnair loves him like a son, and Mcnair is terrified of change. He hates the thought of new coaches and a new GM which is exactly what he would have to do with Smith as well who is a Kubiak disciple. We are stuck with Kubes.
I disagree completely (about Rick Smith). I'd let Kubiak go and keep Smith. He's been a pretty good GM and I'd like to see how he fared without being tied at the hip to Gary.

I bet he gets better without Kubiak.
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I disagree completely (about Rick Smith). I'd let Kubiak go and keep Smith. He's been a pretty good GM and I'd like to see how he fared without being tied at the hip to Gary.

I bet he gets better without Kubiak.
Smith would be gone too I refuse to think he would just fire Kubiak alone he is the type to make another black guy to scapegoat along with him lol
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QFT. I would be shocked if Kubiak is gone next year.

Besides, our ox is not stuck in the ditch right now. They just need to "look at the tape" to fix it according to the beleaguered head coach.
Teams have figured out what Kubiak and Schaub are doing . Kinda like a Little League baseball game where the coach tells the pitcher to throw two fastballs and a change up , every time . The coach is dismayed and says , " it's like they know it's coming " .
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QFT. I would be shocked if Kubiak is gone next year.

Besides, our ox is not stuck in the ditch right now. They just need to "look at the tape" to fix it according to the beleaguered head coach.
He's right, you know. The problem jumps out at 99.999999% of everyone watching the tape.
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I disagree completely (about Rick Smith). I'd let Kubiak go and keep Smith. He's been a pretty good GM and I'd like to see how he fared without being tied at the hip to Gary.

I bet he gets better without Kubiak.
I'd be good with that. Let Smith pick the Coach instead of having a backwards system of the Coach being the GM's boss. There is no accountability in such an arrangement.
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I just heard them called nutless & noodlearm on the radio.

I think it's going to catch on.
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I disagree completely (about Rick Smith). I'd let Kubiak go and keep Smith. He's been a pretty good GM and I'd like to see how he fared without being tied at the hip to Gary.

I bet he gets better without Kubiak.
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Thing is many of us ordinary Joe's saw the problem from a mile away and wanted to fix it in the offseason. Whether it was changing up the offense, changing QB's - whatever.

I remember Kubes saying after the year that they were going to be really critical of themselves and spend an awful lot of time self scouting to correct the problems that happened later in the year. And we bought it hook line and sinker.

Anyone see any significant difference between this years offense and last?
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Rick Smith has done a great job IMO. He cleaned up the roster and added tons of talent. He's gone out and signed good free agents. He's drafted well. He extended Foster, Brown, and Cushing.

Really the only wrong thing he's done is extend Schaub and I think he was forced into that.
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Anyone see any significant difference between this years offense and last?
Most teams offense evolves over the years. We stagnate.
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Most teams offense evolves over the years. We stagnate.
Gary is completely married to his offense. We've been running the same virtually identical offense and plays for 8 years now. It CAN work when everything goes perfect. What I don't like is there is no margin for error and it relies on long drives (in general) and if one lugnut falls off a wheel, it's like the whole car burns to the ground.

I would bring in Case, and change things up. I grant you, it's not going to be a whole different offense. You cannot put in a different O mid-season, but you can run some different looks and different plays. You can work to break your tendencies. You can get Case on the move, and run things within the same offense that Matt is simply not capable of. You can test the deep middle of the field.

Matt has clearly regressed. It's to the point that I'm not so sure I wouldn't rather have Carr under center (the Carr from when he played here) than MS because at least Carr had a cannon and some mobility although I grant you he had zero pocket awareness and his own issues with decision making.

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Most teams offense evolves over the years. We stagnate.
Its been obvious to me for weeks now. Teams are manipulating kubiak's offense....as Seth Payne said today, defenses are showing Matt exactly what he wants to see..according to what the offense tells him he needs to look for....they are effectively baiting him and the offense into throwing where they want him to throw b/c the offense is so controlled.

It works b/c i think they know Matt and the offense cant audible out of plays or are extremely limited in what they can do....basically they're dictating to the offense not the other way around.

People focus on the throw....but AJ ran the route to go with that throw....meaning he read the same thing out there that Matt did.....
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