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If wade cut back his blitz packages and emphasize our cb to turn their heads to play the ball we're easily a top 3 defense by the end of the season.
They can't stand to look back and see the ugly front seven rush any more than we can.
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If wade cut back his blitz packages and emphasize our cb to turn their heads to play the ball we're easily a top 3 defense by the end of the season.
We need to get better at watching the plays for ourselves & "figuring out" what actually happened. Can't listen to the play for play guys.... "He didn't turn his head" is cliche & they say it before they even know what happened.

In everyone of our PI calls, our DB turned his head. Turning your head is supposed to make it look like you're playing the ball. But refs have gotten smarter. They're watching the play. If the receiver turns his head & he's not playing the ball, he's going to get called for PI. Can't push on the receiver, arm bar the receiver, or use your off-hand to pull the receiver's hands down.... that's PI (unless you make contact at the exact second the ball hits the receiver). Those were the things happening in all those PI calls that the guy on TV (or some of our fans repeated here) said our guy didn't turn his head.

That ball that was called a catch, but later over turned in the Baltimore game. Kj did not turn his head, but he didn't touch the receiver either. He put his hand between the receiver's hand, just like he's supposed to. When the ball got there, he was all over Torrey Smith, but that's ok. That's how they're coached to do it.

There was a play in that game where a DB was holding Martin's hand down, but since he looked like he was going for the ball, they didn't call it.

So the next time you hear the commentator say, "He didn't turn his head, that's going to get called every time." Watch to see if there's any contact before the ball when they show the replay. I guarantee you there will be & that's why the PI was called, whether the head is turned or not.
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If wade cut back his blitz packages and emphasize our cb to turn their heads to play the ball we're easily a top 3 defense by the end of the season.
Another thing... the absolute best thing Wade can do to help our defense would be to teach the LBs & the safeties to recognize & anticipate routes. Watching other teams play zone coverages & watching our dolts meander around the field, it's depressing. Really, really depressing.

Watch how other LBs appear to feel the routes developing around them, widening their zones as routes leave their zones, or stretching them when the outside guys run deep routes, or anticipating the slant.....

Really, really good CBs can defend the slant when they're anticipating the slant. But most of the time, really good defenses beat the slant by putting a LB there to take it away. The QB can't throw it on that first step, because the receiver is running right at a LB... maybe a safety. Then he has to wait for the receiver to "clear" the LB & by that time, the blitz is in his face & he's already thrown the ball away or he's running around trying to get away from the blitz.
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Thanks for so succinctly putting things into such real perspective. MSR.
Got him.
And I agree.
Everyone points to that one play against Seattle, but if the D stops Wilson in the 4th qtr, that pick-six is just a footnote.
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Got him.
And I agree.
Everyone points to that one play against Seattle, but if the D stops Wilson in the 4th qtr, that pick-six is just a footnote.
So the defense needs to save Schaub from himself apparently.
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So the defense needs to save Schaub from himself apparently.
No one is going to save Schaub from himself.
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Got him.
And I agree.
Everyone points to that one play against Seattle, but if the D stops Wilson in the 4th qtr, that pick-six is just a footnote.
How about giving the defense credit for holding the Seahawks to zero yards and a field goal after Tate's 3rd quarter fumble at the Texans 31? To return the favor, the offense turns what should have been a game sealing 4th quarter interception by Joseph into a TD for Seattle. Zero points produced by the offense in 40+ minutes of the 2nd half & overtime (covering 8 possessions). Well, except for the 7 points generated for the opposition.

And there are still apologists wanting to point the finger at the defense? Posters should be embarrassed to put their name to this absurdity.
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How about giving the defense credit for holding the Seahawks to zero yards and a field goal after Tate's 3rd quarter fumble at the Texans 31? To return the favor, the offense turns what should have been a game sealing 4th quarter interception by Joseph into a TD for Seattle. Zero points produced by the offense in 40+ minutes of the 2nd half & overtime (covering 8 possessions). Well, except for the 7 points generated for the opposition.

And there are still apologists wanting to point the finger at the defense? Posters should be embarrassed to put their name to this absurdity.
The intense scrutiny that the D has incurred is certainly a function of people's frustration with Schaub's play. They feel that the latter is ultimately a hopeless case, unlikely to change. So they've focused in on the D, looking for more "perfection" than may be otherwise expected, to take up the slack. If the O was playing more error-free, the "pimples" on the D would be less likely a subject of conversation. But one truism remains.......both sides of the ball are having their share of having difficulty in playing a "complete game."
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...both sides of the ball are having their share of having difficulty in playing a "complete game."
I don't think anyone should expect a perfect game from either side of the ball. Mistakes will be made. Just don't make them so horrific that they can't be recovered from. There is only one side of the ball (and one player) making those types of mistakes.
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I don't think anyone should expect a perfect game from either side of the ball. Mistakes will be made. Just don't make them so horrific that they can't be recovered from. There is only one side of the ball (and one player) making those types of mistakes.
You'll get no argument from me that Schaub is THE problem.
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I don't think anyone should expect a perfect game from either side of the ball. Mistakes will be made. Just don't make them so horrific that they can't be recovered from. There is only one side of the ball (and one player) making those types of mistakes.
If we've got to put blame somewhere, let's blame Schaub. The pick 6 & the total futility displayed by the offense with three opportunities to win the game, it fits.

I honestly don't care if he throws a pick 6 from here on out as long as he makes the plays to win the game when it's all said & done. Like in the SanDiego or the Titans' game. One of these days this defense is going to give up 42 & we'll need Schaub to score 43 in a game that counts.


Especially if they can't stop giving away 90+ yard drives to scrub offenses.
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Two games with Reed. 4 pass attempts over 20 yards plus, 0 to middle and 1 to right of the field. 126 passing yards a game. #Texans

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Two games without Reed,11 pass attempts over 20 yards plus, 2 to middle and 3 right of the field. 231.5 passing yards a game. #Texans

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Also no one wants to recognize what Ed Reed has done in his two games, because he is not filling up the stat sheet. #Texans
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Some quick stats on the Ed Reed effect:
Reed, for whatever reason, to date has not been "tested." Let's wait to have this conversation when he is truly tested in several games.
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reed was a minor feature on PLAYBOOK going into the 49'ers game. they pointed out a couple plays that show exactly what he does that arent seen by the stat sheet or casual observer. there is genuine fear from quarterbacks about throwing it ed's way and for good reason. that reason is why i've been asking for a centerfielder for so long. now if schaub can keep from screwing us, we have probably the #1 defense - one that's improving as we go.
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reed was a minor feature on PLAYBOOK going into the 49'ers game. they pointed out a couple plays that show exactly what he does that arent seen by the stat sheet or casual observer. there is genuine fear from quarterbacks about throwing it ed's way and for good reason. that reason is why i've been asking for a centerfielder for so long. now if schaub can keep from screwing us, we have probably the #1 defense - one that's improving as we go.
Having watched the PLAYBOOK piece, I find the Reed analysis a bit of gross over-analysis of those plays. On plays with no co-deep safety, hearing the word "gambling" does not instill great confidence, especially when that safety is not known for his tackling prowess to begin with.
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Having watched the PLAYBOOK piece, I find the Reed analysis a bit of gross over-analysis of those plays. On plays with no co-deep safety, hearing the word "gambling" does not instill great confidence, especially when that safety is not known for his tackling prowess to begin with.
I watched that piece and wondered to myself what you would say, and now I know. I heard Baldinger say that hip is just fine.
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I watched that piece and wondered to myself what you would say, and now I know. I heard Baldinger say that hip is just fine.
Baldinger's not a doctor. Reeds been on the injury report with a groin issue. So far, sounds like CnDoc is more right than wrong.
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Its a nice stat but the 90 + yd drives against the Tits and Seahawks are a huge concern to me.
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So the defense needs to save Schaub from himself apparently.
It wouldn't be the first time a defense had to carry a team into the playoffs.
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Its a nice stat but the 90 + yd drives against the Tits and Seahawks are a huge concern to me.
That bothers me too. Let's not forget that we gave up 42 points to NE in the playoffs last year. If we are going to give up those kinda points to the Broncos or NE, we are not going to beat anyone in the playoffs.

Our defense needs to step up, we can't give away points on offense and ST, and we need to get better at playing against the big boys.
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