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Old 10-03-2013   #41
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And on the bright side, if Sumlin leaves and Chip Kelly tanks, we can always sign Kelly
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Guess you weren't around in the late 80s and early 90s when no one gave a crap about Texas.

Alabama only recently rebuilt their national fanbase with Saban and it's national championships.
UT's fanbase is regional, even though they like the think otherwise. Case in point, difficulty getting the LHN on cable and satellite. When they finally got it on TWC, it was only within the state. There really was little to no demand outside of Texas and even that demand decreased as the football team struggled.
Ohio St, Nebraska, Notre Dame have national fanbases
See, now that's where your ignorance is showing. Even when they're down people give a crap about Texas and when that happens there's an enormous and focused will to bring them back.

When A&M is down no gives a crap about A&M. That must be where you're getting this idea that the same thing applies to the elite schools. It doesn't.

You actually think Alabama "only recently rebuilt their national fanbase with Saban"? That's laughable. Their national fanbase doesn't go away.
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some of these posts are laughable; so much misinformation and butthurt.

prestige-wise, USC is the better job. but if you take off the blinders and look what is actually going on beneath the surface, one can see that as it stands currently A&M is in a better position for success; playing in the best conference in college football, extensive facility upgrades that exceed even the "elite" programs, no ncaa sanctions to work under, and being the top draw for recruits in a football crazed state. come back in a few years and if A&M keeps winning, the prestige argument will be up for debate.
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I think people are undervaluing A&M because it had some down years with 2 bad coaching hires. Plus, the value was raised greatly when it became the only SEC school in Texas.
It'sw had down yrs since Jackie Sherrill left.

Manziel is the only reason the Ags are relevant.

Tell me when is the last time the ags won a NC? Finished in the top 5? I dont remember where they finished last yr, but the Manziel point still stands.

Sumlin will always be an upwardly mobile HC. Del Rio will get the USC HC job, so dont worry Aggie fans Sumlin will be at A&M next yr with a fat raise.
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some of these posts are laughable; so much misinformation and butthurt.

prestige-wise, USC is the better job. but if you take off the blinders and look what is actually going on beneath the surface, one can see that as it stands currently A&M is in a better position for success; playing in the best conference in college football, extensive facility upgrades that exceed even the "elite" programs, no ncaa sanctions to work under, and being the top draw for recruits in a football crazed state. come back in a few years and if A&M keeps winning, the prestige argument will be up for debate.
2 bits 4 bits 6 bits a dollar Rah Rah Rah go Ags

A century of football says otherwise.

Have you objectively looked at your defense? When has Sumlin ever had an avg defense?
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See, now that's where your ignorance is showing. Even when they're down people give a crap about Texas and when that happens there's an enormous and focused will to bring them back.

When A&M is down no gives a crap about A&M. That must be where you're getting this idea that the same thing applies to the elite schools. It doesn't.

You actually think Alabama "only recently rebuilt their national fanbase with Saban"? That's laughable. Their national fanbase doesn't go away.
Yep

Alabama fans from 6 to 90 are some of the most passionate fans I've ever seen. I went to watch the A&M/Alabama game at a bar & grill and there were a bunch of 50 plus Alabama women fans that were alot of fun. So were their daughters.

Very friendly knowledgeable football fans.
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2 bits 4 bits 6 bits a dollar Rah Rah Rah go Ags

A century of football says otherwise.

Have you objectively looked at your defense? When has Sumlin ever had an avg defense?
SteelB, he's talking about right now, not a century of football before. Also, let's be real and talk about A&M after it transitioned from a military college to a more conventional university.

The defense has the quality in terms of recruits. Right now it is young. It will improve by next year. We've got young guys out there - Darrian Claiborne (who looks like the answer at ILB), Isaiah Golden, Devante Harris.

They have all the talent to make the jump to at least a decent defense, it's up to Snyder to use that talent. They play bad now, but talent + experience should result in improvement next year.

As far as the future is concerned:

Rivals has A&M's 2014 recruiting class (for now) ranked at 13, USC is at 63. It doesn't matter if it's Manziel or whatever - relevancy brings recruits, and recruits set up success for years to come.
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SteelB, he's talking about right now, not a century of football before. Also, let's be real and talk about A&M after it transitioned from a military college to a more conventional university.

The defense has the quality in terms of recruits. Right now it is young. It will improve by next year. We've got young guys out there - Darrian Claiborne (who looks like the answer at ILB), Isaiah Golden, Devante Harris.

They have all the talent to make the jump to at least a decent defense, it's up to Snyder to use that talent. They play bad now, but talent + experience should result in improvement next year.

As far as the future is concerned:

Rivals has A&M's 2014 recruiting class (for now) ranked at 13, USC is at 63. It doesn't matter if it's Manziel or whatever - relevancy brings recruits, and recruits set up success for years to come.
While this is true in most cases there are some exceptions. Texas, under Brown, has, until this last recruiting class, had a top 10 or top 5 class, but he's done little with all that top talent (1 NC). Mack is a great recruiter but not so great coach. I think most of the team's problems stem from a lack of discipline, but that's just a guess. Basically, it takes the right coach with the top recruits to get good and stay good like Sabin at Alabama.
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Little more food, Since A&M's last title:

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Nice job Dan and totally off the the point I was making which was SEC v. The PAC whatever
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See, now that's where your ignorance is showing. Even when they're down people give a crap about Texas and when that happens there's an enormous and focused will to bring them back.

When A&M is down no gives a crap about A&M. That must be where you're getting this idea that the same thing applies to the elite schools. It doesn't.

You actually think Alabama "only recently rebuilt their national fanbase with Saban"? That's laughable. Their national fanbase doesn't go away.
People only pay attention to TU because they get bullshyte calls at the goal line preventing lowly Iowa State from kicking their ass.
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Honda vs Mercedes Benz

a&m vs USC


Honda may very well be better made and more reliable but it's not a Benz
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Historically speaking, A&M doesn't even compare to USC. The only reason it's even a question right now is because of what Sumlin has already done at A&M and how badly Kiffin tanked USC.

3 years ago it's not even a question that he goes to USC. However, because of the situation both schools are in, it's not crazy for him to stay. He's established a huge base at A&M very quickly.
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whys sumlin even considering this? seems like tamu is on par with usc. anyone know what tamu pays sumlin? didnt he just build a huge house?
Not even close....

recruiting for USC >> TAMU

Money at USC > TAMU

Natl title aspirations for USC >>>> TAMU....as long as Saban is in Bama anyway.

Program prestige at USC >>>>>>> TAMU

Living in LA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in college station

for what it's worth though, i hope he stays....
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Not even close....

recruiting for USC >> TAMU

Money at USC > TAMU

Natl title aspirations for USC >>>> TAMU....as long as Saban is in Bama anyway.

Program prestige at USC >>>>>>> TAMU

Living in LA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living in college station

for what it's worth though, i hope he stays....
I already addressed the first point earlier. Take a look at their recruiting classes.

As for money, if you think A&M can't throw more money at Sumlin than USC, you're wrong.
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I already addressed the first point earlier. Take a look at their recruiting classes.

As for money, if you think A&M can't throw more money at Sumlin than USC, you're wrong.
USC recruits itself. They signed 8 blue-chip recruits the last 2 years while under sanctions. A&M has signed 1 blue-chip in the same time frame.

USC's recruiting is down this year because of Lane Kiffin's implosion. Already, since his firing, top recruits on the west coast are interested in USC again. If Sumlin were at USC, he would bring in top 3 classes every single year.

And A&M can throw a ton of money at Sumlin, but you're fooling yourself if you think USC can't outbid them.
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I already addressed the first point earlier. Take a look at their recruiting classes.

As for money, if you think A&M can't throw more money at Sumlin than USC, you're wrong.
Sumlin's system is basically 7 on 7...& With the explosion of 7 on 7 all over the nation...getting decent to top recruits to want to play in that kind of system won't be a problem...especially out there. Apart from that... valuing recruiting classes has become largely overated & highly inaccurate over the years. You simply don't know what you have until the kid steps on campus...beefs up & then onto the field ....Manziel was a 3 star recruit coming out....not really on anyone's radar...you know the rest. I say all that to say it'll be easy to find guys to play in Sumlin's system whether he has a top recruiting class or not.

As far as A&M throwing money at him...sure they could...but that's really all they can do....As a UofH grad, we heard the same thing about his family loving Houston....apparently, they didn't love it too much though.

if the money is relatively even....A&M will loses every time.
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Lol, no way is recruiting an answer. Texas A&M is killing it in recruiting, if you haven't looked lately. He built a house here and A&M can probably match him for money. He might milk this for a bigger contract, I guess.

As bong said, the easiness of the Pac-12 is a possible attracting factor.
They aren't killing it in recruiting compared to what can be accomplished at USC.

A&M was ranked #15 in 2012, #11 in 2013, and are currently #14 for 2014. That's according to rivals.

When a coach produces at USC, they get top 3 recruiting classes EVERY year. There is a huge difference between #10 and #3 class rank in recruiting.
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I think the recruiting angle is fairly negligible honestly. While USC might be looked on more favorably than A&M by the national population, there are a **** ton of talented kids coming out of Texas H.S. Football programs, especially QB's. USC might be easier to recruit a talented defense due to it's "linebacker U" label, but a coach like Sumlin probably gets his choice of QB's, WR's and O-linemen.

He can more than likely dig up the kind of recruits that he would need to compete in the SEC, and his schemes seem really good at putting up gaudy numbers. Right now, Sumlin is either some kind of offensive mastermind, or he's gotten extremely lucky in who he took over for and what they already had on the roster. I'm leaning towards the former since he did it with UH and with TAMU.
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USC recruits itself. They signed 8 blue-chip recruits the last 2 years while under sanctions. A&M has signed 1 blue-chip in the same time frame.

USC's recruiting is down this year because of Lane Kiffin's implosion. Already, since his firing, top recruits on the west coast are interested in USC again. If Sumlin were at USC, he would bring in top 3 classes every single year.

And A&M can throw a ton of money at Sumlin, but you're fooling yourself if you think USC can't outbid them.
Didn't see this, you basically said the same thing I just posted.

California has an equal amount of top players than does Texas and USC gets their pick of them when they are producing. They also pull recruits from all over the nation, even from Florida.
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Default Re: IS USC Better Than TAMU?

If we were to go to San Diego & ask 100 people if they knew the name of the last two Texas A&M head coaches were, how many do you think would answer with 1 correct name?

If we were to go to Houston & ask 100 people if they knew the name of the last two USC coaches, how many do you think would answer with 1 correct name?

If you were to ask 1,000 people in San Francisco to name 2 people that ever QB'd for A&M, how many would come up with a correct name?

If you were to ask 1,000 people in San Antonio to name 2 people that ever QB'd for USC, how many would come up with a correct name?

True enough, A&M is closer to a National Title than USC, but as soon as those sanction measures are done, USC will be back on top again.
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