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Old 08-28-2013   #581
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If carrying a gun with you everywhere is a sign of paranoia, then 1/2 the people I know are in need of a psychiatrist.
Why turn this into a political debate? Unless I'm totally misreading your comment.
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You've got the cart before the horse -- the paranoia creates the perceived need to carry a gun. Irrational/delusional thinking + lethal weapon = danger to those around them.
Maybe, maybe not. I can't glean that much off of one sentence referencing a "revelation" that is going to be made by someone in the future.

I was being tongue-in-cheek, but the comment did strike me as a little anti-gun.

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And we're up to at least 4 firearms incidents associated with Hernandez from 17 to 23... that we know of.
Exactly my point. The article made it sound like carrying a gun the last year was a sign of paranoia when in reality he has been a gun-toting thug his entire adult life.
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Rolling Stone--The Gangsta In The Huddle

Aaron Hernandez might have been one of the NFL’s all-time greats, but he could never escape drugs, guns and a life of violence
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The first text pinged him around nine that Sunday night: I’m coming to grab that tonight, you gon b around? I need dat and we could step for a little again. For Odin Lloyd, this was bang-up news, proof that his luck had turned around. Aaron Hernandez, the Pro Bowl tight end of the New England Patriots, was coming by later to scoop him up for another five-star debauch, just 36 hours after he’d taken Lloyd out for the wildest ride of his life. All night Friday, they’d kicked it at Rumor, popping bottles and pulling models up the steps of the VIP section of the Boston theater district’s hottest club. “Shit was crazy,” Lloyd told friends the next day at his niece’s dance recital. “The girls were off the chain. We smoked that super-duper and Aaron dropped 10 G’s like it was nothing. We kept rolling past dawn at his big-ass mansion, then he tossed me the keys to his Suburban.”

Big doings for a semipro football player and underemployed landscape helper, though there, too, fortune smiled on Lloyd, 27. He’d just gotten word that he’d have shifts all week, his first steady hours in some time. And now he was about to burn it down again with Hernandez, the $40 million man with the restless streak and a bottomless taste for chronic. The problem, Lloyd said, was it didn’t end there with Hernandez and his how-high crew: “Them boys is into way worse shit than herb.”

How much worse? About as bad as it gets, say longtime family friends. In exclusive conversations with Rolling Stone, those friends, who insisted they not be named, say Hernandez was using the maniacal drug angel dust, had fallen in with a crew of gangsters and convinced himself that his life was in danger, carrying a gun wherever he went. Sources close to the tight end add that throughout the spring, when players are expected to be preparing themselves for the marathon NFL season, Hernandez had missed workouts and sessions with a rehab trainer, and had been told by his head coach, Bill Belichick, that he was one misstep from being cut...
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/...#ixzz2dHLbphTb
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...the stoop-to-conquer Patriots of Bill Belichick.


Best line in the Rolling Stone piece. Patriots are complicit, act like they're not.
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You've got the cart before the horse -- the paranoia creates the perceived need to carry a gun. Irrational/delusional thinking + lethal weapon = danger to those around them.

And we're up to at least 4 firearms incidents associated with Hernandez from 17 to 23... that we know of.




It says it was used as an anesthetic until 1965, no?
Playoffs, you're absolutely right.

Forgot all about Senylan. In the mid 70's, I would be called on to perform occasional reconstructive surgery on some of the injured New Orleans Zoo animals. It was used as a human dissociative anesthetic like, if you have heard of, a drug called Ketamine that is still used today. But Senylan was strictly a veterinary anesthetic. The way it worked, like Ketamine, was that patients felt the pain, but forgot having pain a second after they experienced it. This went on for as long as the surgery lasted. It did not have any use in large medical center environments except for research. Actually after its use was discontinued because of horrendous post anesthetic effects on animals beyond its unique anesthesia, it was actually produced by the manufacturer in small quantities, sort of under the radar of the FDA, for certain limited institutions and research purposes, though somehow finding it's way mostly into the hands of the non-medical, non-veterinary population for recreational use. The FDA finally caught wind of the latter and put an end to the manufacturer's production, I believe, somewhere near the end of the 70's. The street formulas took over after that.
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Playoffs, you're absolutely right.

Forgot all about Senylan. In the mid 70's, I would be called on to perform occasional reconstructive surgery on some of the injured New Orleans Zoo animals. It was used as a human dissociative anesthetic like, if you have heard of, a drug called Ketamine that is still used today. But Senylan was strictly a veterinary anesthetic...
That's right, I remember it being referred to as "horse tranquilizer" when I was a kid.
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Hernandez family seems to be ran by a gang of thugs! One messed up family for sure!
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Hernandez family seems to be ran by a gang of thugs! One messed up family for sure!
Maybe. It looked like his dad realized his mistakes and when he had kids really tried to turn 'em around, make sure they didn't end up like him, and succeeded with Aaron's older brother. Too many tragic things happened to that family.
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"I saw Bill today and asked, 'Did Aaron ever tell you his life was in danger?' He's like, 'Absolutely not,' " Kraft said. "If a player had told Bill that his life was in danger, Bill would say, 'We're calling (security chief) Mark Briggs, we're calling the authorities.' His response wouldn't be, 'We're going to get a safe house and you're going to lie low.' I know Bill, that's not what he would say."

Kraft also said Belichick never threatened to cut Hernandez if he slipped up one more time.

"If we had known what people seem to think what we know about Aaron Hernandez, we would not have done that deal (the five-year, $40 million extension he signed last year), and Bill would never threaten a player with being cut 12 months down the road," Kraft said. "It makes no sense both in terms of how you're interacting with the player and in terms of the (salary) cap."
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Hernandez sinking deeper in S__T.

Report: Video shows Aaron Hernandez with 2012 murder victims
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This is an unrelated story, and I'm sure Hernandez has much better lawyers, but it just shows that you don't have to pull the trigger to be convicted of first degree murder.

Florida 'Hiccup Girl' found guilty of murder
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The screws are finally being turned.

Grand jury indicts Aaron Hernandez’s fiancee
Posted by Mike Florio on September 27, 2013, 3:15 PM EDT

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Prosecutors have believed that Shayanna Jenkins, the fiancee of former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, engaged in “overt attempts to hide evidence . . . and to hinder and mislead” their investigation into the murder of Odin Lloyd.

A grand jury now agrees. Via the Boston Globe, Jenkins has been indicted for perjury.

The grand jury also indicted Hernandez’s cousin, Tanya Singleton, on charges of conspiracy to commit accessory after the fact. She had been jailed on contempt of court charges after refusing to testify before the grand jury.

Carlos Ortiz, who previously faced weapons charges, has been indicted as an accessory after the fact. The weapons charges have been dropped.

The charge against Jenkins means that she lied under oath. Which likely means that prosecutors believe she lied when testifying before the grand jury.

The news charges will serve to put increased pressure on persons who have collateral roles in the case, with the hope that someone will provide clear and persuasive testimony or evidence that can be used to convict Hernandez for murder.
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Grand jury indicts Aaron Hernandez’s fiancee
Posted by Mike Florio on September 27, 2013, 3:15 PM EDT
Good. I missed the latest news.

I'm guessing the prosecutor will leverage jail time for Ahern's fiancé against a plea. We will see if he's a man or a mouse when it comes to family - women - going to prison on his behalf.

I'd throw them all in the calaboose and lose the key.
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OH $HIT! YOU MEAN I LEFT ONE ALIVE?!




Witness claims Aaron Hernandez pulled trigger in 2012 Boston double shooting
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A man who survived a 2012 shooting in Boston that killed two people has claimed that then-New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was the man who pulled the trigger.

The man, who asked that his identity be kept secret out of concern for his safety, made the claim in an interview with WFXT television in Boston, and said he recognized Hernandez as the man who fatally shot two of his friends in July 2012 after the former NFL star was arrested this past June for the murder of Odin Lloyd.

The man claimed that the shooting occurred shortly after 2 a.m., the time when the Boston nightclub where they'd spent most of the evening closed its doors. The men were waiting at a red light when an SUV pulled up alongside them and a voice shouted "What's up, Negroes?" before the shooting began.

"Things happened so fast. I was trying to defend myself," the witness said in the interview. "They were shooting everywhere inside the car, front to back. They just came to kill. That's it."

The driver of the car the men were in, Danny Abreu, was killed, as was a passenger, Safiro Furtado. Both men were Cape Verdean immigrants, as is the witness.

"When I see (Hernandez's) face, I just recognize his face. Compare his face that night to his face now. It's that face that I remember," he said.

The word of the witness is not the only evidence police have that Hernandez was involved in the shooting, which occurred just months after he caught one of two touchdown passes thrown by Tom Brady in New England's 21-17 Super Bowl 46 loss to the New York Giants. Investigators believe Hernandez was at the same nightclub where the victims were the night of the shooting. MyFoxBoston.com reports that surveillance footage shows Hernandez in the same area as the victims.

Also, court documents show investigators found a silver SUV with Rhode Island license plates wanted in connection with the Boston shooting during a June search of a Bristol, Conn. house frequented by Hernandez's relatives and friends. According to the documents, the vehicle was rented in Hernandez's name.

A gun believed to be used in the 2012 murders was found in June of this year in the trunk of a car driven by Jailene Diaz Ramos that crashed. Diaz Ramos is also from Bristol, Hernandez's hometown.

MyFoxBoston.com also reports that investigators believe Hernandez's former right-hand man, Alexander Bradley, may have been in the car with Hernandez the night of the Boston murders.

Bradley is currently suing Hernandez, saying that the former football player shot him in the face after a night at a Florida strip club this past February.

Bradley was supposed to testify last month before the Suffolk County grand jury investigating the Boston murders, but did not appear. A warrant is currently out for his arrest.
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Why didnt he tell the police who the shooter was the day it happened? Hernandez' face was all over television during January football. Sounds like someone trying to get paid to me.
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MyFoxBoston.com also reports that investigators believe Hernandez's former right-hand man, Alexander Bradley, may have been in the car with Hernandez the night of the Boston murders.

Bradley is currently suing Hernandez, saying that the former football player shot him in the face after a night at a Florida strip club this past February.

Bradley was supposed to testify last month before the Suffolk County grand jury investigating the Boston murders, but did not appear. A warrant is currently out for his arrest.


This Alexander Bradley strikes me as a particular ignoramus. Hernandez shot him in the face and drove to an industrial area of Miami to dump his body leaving him to die. He lives disfigured from bullet to the head but does no report the crime. Later sues. And now no-shows the grand jury.

Prisons were built for dumbazzes like Bradley. If he lives long enough.

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Why didnt he tell the police who the shooter was the day it happened? Hernandez' face was all over television during January football. Sounds like someone trying to get paid to me.
Most people don't know what non-QBs look like without helmets. I would not recognize Jason Witten or Heath Miller, both with many more years & accolades in the league than Hernandez.
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This Alexander Bradley strikes me as a particular ignoramus. Hernandez shot him in the face and drove to an industrial area of Miami to dump his body leaving him to die. He lives disfigured from bullet to the head but does no report the crime. Later sues. And now no-shows the grand jury.

Prisons were built for dumbazzes like Bradley. If he lives long enough.
I bet he's just "keepin' it real." He "ain't no rat."
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Surprise, Mr. Hernandez, they've found him.


Alexander Bradley taken into custody
Updated: October 4, 2013, 5:11 PM ET
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Aaron Hernandez fiancee pleads not guilty to perjury charge in Odin Lloyd murder case

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In court on Tuesday Mr Bomberg said that the day after Mr Lloyd was killed, [Shayanna] Jenkins, at the request of Hernandez, retrieved a box from the basement of the home she shared with Hernandez in North Attleborough, Massachusetts, put it in a trash bag, covered it with baby clothes and drove away with it.

Jenkins repeatedly told grand jurors she threw the box in a dumpster but couldn't recall where, according to Mr Bomberg.
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Jenkins, who has turned up to support Hernandez at his court hearings, also allegedly denied asking her maids to sign non-disclosure agreements after Mr Lloyd's death, the Courant reported.

The maids, who reported seeing guns at the house, later testified before the grand jury that Jenkins did ask them to sign documents, copies of which have been submitted as evidence, Mr Bomberg said.
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Their relationship, in many ways,” Bassil said, “had elements of what I refer to as ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell.’
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Bias for the defense???

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