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The washington post has a number of stats for completion % for 3rd and, ypa, yac ranks and so forth. Interesting read only 7 better on getting a first down on 3rd and 3-7, 7 better on third and less than 3 and 17 better in 3rd and 8 or more

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The washington post has a number of stats for completion % for 3rd and, ypa, yac ranks and so forth. Interesting read only 7 better on getting a first down on 3rd and 3-7, 7 better on third and less than 3 and 17 better in 3rd and 8 or more

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...e=NFL&rank=048
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While I agree some of it is a bit overreacting, what Hawks fans think is irrelevant as they don't see everything that goes on with the team in comparison to a Texans fan. Most fans outside of the Texans don't understand Schaub has now thrown an interception in 7 straight games dating back to the last game with the Colts. They don't understand that during the last quarter of 2012 we went 6 quarters without an offensive touchdown. Add that to the Baltimore no TD game this year and the Hawks second half and you got a frustrated fan base. When you see your team amount the yards it does to put it in the top five offensively but continue to have the same issues it had previously you start to wonder 'Why hasn't anything been fixed?' Not to forget the strange slow starts or showing up in one half versus another.

As for the fanbase...saying they are fair weather and cry baby is a stretch. Where is this mythical fanbase that doesn't get fanatical about their team? There isn't any. All have them. We just don't see them because they aren't our team. I'm also a Bears fan and believe me...we have tons of them. I know Cowboys fans that are the same. Eagles fans as well. Do all of them not deserve a team?

Point being...kind of tired of that talk. One minute the Houston fanbase is accused of accepting being medicore and now they are fairweather because they are passionate and want success for their team. Can't win for losing. Damned if we do and damned if we don't. But last I checked Texans fans travel where the team is playing on the road. They were there greeting the team after losing in the playoffs to cheer them or show up in Reliant to watch a draft or bare the heat to watch training camp, etc.

Just because there are some that go to extremes it does not measure an entire fanbase.
Ok so what you are saying is that all of the INT's were Schaub's fault and the rest of the team and coach have nothing to do with them? Isn't that being a bit excessive blaming one guy even though this is a team game? Surely you do not believe that other factors were not involved in those INT's? So when the fans lay all of that at the feet of their QB and give passes to other mistakes by coaches and other players, it seems fair weather to me no matter how you slice it.

All this talk about putting Yates or Keenum in 4 weeks into the season because Schaub has made some mistakes is hilarious and desperate. The Schaub haters have been clamoring for years to get rid of Schaub, and now they smell blood in the water and have ramped up their emotional rhetoric in an attempt to say "see. I told you so." That is not supporting your team.

I am not saying there are not fair weather fans from other franchises, of course there are, but that does not mean the entire fan base feels the way they do. You assume because of all of the negativity on this board, or the fair weather posts people make on the official FB posts that all Texans fans hate Schaub and blame everything on him.

I mean how many active members does this board have? Is it a tiny fraction of ALL Texans fans? I would remind you what it was like to be without a team and how that felt, and then finally get a team and suffer through what a really bad team is, so yeah... I think there are way too many whiners on this board who complain about the dumbest things, and this mob mentality where you all gather your torches and pitch forks so you can burn Schaub's jersey, or ignore all of the good he has done for the franchise because you only see, or want to point on his mistakes make me sick as a fan.

Schaub looked like an elite QB in the first half of the Seahawks game, carving up the leagues no.1 D like it was child's play. But all some of you can do is talk about 1 play. 1 play that should never have been called, and pretend that it was that play that lost the game. That only ties the score, it did not lost the game. What lost the game was when Cushing went out, and suddenly Wilson is running all over the Texans D, and even then, the play that ultimately lost the game was the penalty on Jackson. That gave them a first down they did not earn, and put them in scoring position. Where is all of the hate and jersey burning towards Jackson?

No, instead fair weather fans pick the easy scape goat and ignore everything else. I mean how much worse can it get when our starting QB must be escorted by police to give an interview about a game? That is allot more shameful than Schaub's pick 6 in my book.

Edit: And one more thing... What about Tate's fumble? Where are all of you Tate is better than Foster guys now and how does that not play into this loss, yet I hear nary a word about that play. The Texans gave that game away, not Schaub alone.
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Ok so what you are saying is that all of the INT's were Schaub's fault and the rest of the team and coach have nothing to do with them? Isn't that being a bit excessive blaming one guy even though this is a team game? Surely you do not believe that other factors were not involved in those INT's? So when the fans lay all of that at the feet of their QB and give passes to other mistakes by coaches and other players, it seems fair weather to me no matter how you slice it.

All this talk about putting Yates or Keenum in 4 weeks into the season because Schaub has made some mistakes is hilarious and desperate. The Schaub haters have been clamoring for years to get rid of Schaub, and now they smell blood in the water and have ramped up their emotional rhetoric in an attempt to say "see. I told you so." That is not supporting your team.

I am not saying there are not fair weather fans from other franchises, of course there are, but that does not mean the entire fan base feels the way they do. You assume because of all of the negativity on this board, or the fair weather posts people make on the official FB posts that all Texans fans hate Schaub and blame everything on him.

I mean how many active members does this board have? Is it a tiny fraction of ALL Texans fans? I would remind you what it was like to be without a team and how that felt, and then finally get a team and suffer through what a really bad team is, so yeah... I think there are way too many whiners on this board who complain about the dumbest things, and this mob mentality where you all gather your torches and pitch forks so you can burn Schaub's jersey, or ignore all of the good he has done for the franchise because you only see, or want to point on his mistakes make me sick as a fan.

Schaub looked like an elite QB in the first half of the Seahawks game, carving up the leagues no.1 D like it was child's play. But all some of you can do is talk about 1 play. 1 play that should never have been called, and pretend that it was that play that lost the game. That only ties the score, it did not lost the game. What lost the game was when Cushing went out, and suddenly Wilson is running all over the Texans D, and even then, the play that ultimately lost the game was the penalty on Jackson. That gave them a first down they did not earn, and put them in scoring position. Where is all of the hate and jersey burning towards Jackson?

No, instead fair weather fans pick the easy scape goat and ignore everything else. I mean how much worse can it get when our starting QB must be escorted by police to give an interview about a game? That is allot more shameful than Schaub's pick 6 in my book.

Edit: And one more thing... What about Tate's fumble? Where are all of you Tate is better than Foster guys now and how does that not play into this loss, yet I hear nary a word about that play. The Texans gave that game away, not Schaub alone.
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Ok so what you are saying is that all of the INT's were Schaub's fault and the rest of the team and coach have nothing to do with them? Isn't that being a bit excessive blaming one guy even though this is a team game? Surely you do not believe that other factors were not involved in those INT's? So when the fans lay all of that at the feet of their QB and give passes to other mistakes by coaches and other players, it seems fair weather to me no matter how you slice it.

All this talk about putting Yates or Keenum in 4 weeks into the season because Schaub has made some mistakes is hilarious and desperate. The Schaub haters have been clamoring for years to get rid of Schaub, and now they smell blood in the water and have ramped up their emotional rhetoric in an attempt to say "see. I told you so." That is not supporting your team.

I am not saying there are not fair weather fans from other franchises, of course there are, but that does not mean the entire fan base feels the way they do. You assume because of all of the negativity on this board, or the fair weather posts people make on the official FB posts that all Texans fans hate Schaub and blame everything on him.

I mean how many active members does this board have? Is it a tiny fraction of ALL Texans fans? I would remind you what it was like to be without a team and how that felt, and then finally get a team and suffer through what a really bad team is, so yeah... I think there are way too many whiners on this board who complain about the dumbest things, and this mob mentality where you all gather your torches and pitch forks so you can burn Schaub's jersey, or ignore all of the good he has done for the franchise because you only see, or want to point on his mistakes make me sick as a fan.

Schaub looked like an elite QB in the first half of the Seahawks game, carving up the leagues no.1 D like it was child's play. But all some of you can do is talk about 1 play. 1 play that should never have been called, and pretend that it was that play that lost the game. That only ties the score, it did not lost the game. What lost the game was when Cushing went out, and suddenly Wilson is running all over the Texans D, and even then, the play that ultimately lost the game was the penalty on Jackson. That gave them a first down they did not earn, and put them in scoring position. Where is all of the hate and jersey burning towards Jackson?

No, instead fair weather fans pick the easy scape goat and ignore everything else. I mean how much worse can it get when our starting QB must be escorted by police to give an interview about a game? That is allot more shameful than Schaub's pick 6 in my book.

Edit: And one more thing... What about Tate's fumble? Where are all of you Tate is better than Foster guys now and how does that not play into this loss, yet I hear nary a word about that play. The Texans gave that game away, not Schaub alone.
Ya wheres the Tate Fumble thread????
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When Tate averages basically a turnover a game for god knows how many games now, then we can talk about Tate in the same light as Schaub.
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Speak for yourself. I think it's hilarious and well deserved. Schaub deserves every bit of hate for his performances.
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Imagine how strange and downright novel it must feel to be Tony Romo about now, waking up each day as merely the second-most embattled NFL quarterback in Texas. He owes Houston's Matt Schaub for that one.
Watching Schaub's struggles in recent weeks, Bill Walsh's devastatingly succinct critique of Steve DeBerg, his first 49ers starting quarterback, keeps coming to mind: "He plays just good enough to get you beat.''
It's a cruel summation to render about anyone, especially a quarterback who has contributed significantly to the franchise's first two playoff berths in its history the past two seasons, but that's kind of where things stand with Schaub in his shaky Texans tenure at this juncture.

In his seventh season as Houston's full-time starter, he is no longer viewed as part of the solution, he is part of the problem. The main problem, judging by the sound and fury (and arson-related antics) coming from irate Houston fans and some in the media. And Schaub keeps getting the Texans beat with rookie-like mistakes, as he did again Sunday with that brutal pick-six to Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman in the final minutes of regulation.
If you're scoring at home, that makes three consecutive games in which Schaub has gifted his opponent with an interception return for a touchdown, a ghastly streak that has been matched by only three other quarterbacks in the past 20 years, according to research by the Elias Sports Bureau. That the Colts' Peyton Manning (in 2001) and the Broncos' John Elway (in 1994) are on that dubious list proves it's a passing slump that's survivable. At least if your last name is Manning or Elway, which pretty much exempts Schaub.
Schaub's glaring, game-turning miscue occurred much earlier in Week 3's Texans' loss at Baltimore, but it was just as ugly. With Houston dominating the game statistically despite scoring just six points on a pair of first-half field goals, Schaub threw a ghastly interception to Ravens inside linebacker Daryl Smith, who returned it 37 yards for a touchdown with 2:39 left in the first half, giving Baltimore a lead it would never relinquish in the 30-9 victory.
Those two picks have changed the tenor of the season in Houston for the time being, after the Texans rallied to gutty wins at San Diego and home against Tennessee in Weeks 1-2, getting off to a 2-0 for the second year in a row. With a month of the schedule gone, Houston (2-2) trails both Indianapolis and Tennessee (3-1) in the AFC South, and is in the midst of an ultra-challenging stretch that includes Sunday night's big-stage game at San Francisco, a Week 7 trip to turnaround-team-of-the-year Kansas City and a post-bye showdown against the visiting Colts in Week 9.

The Texans simply can't afford the kind of self-inflicted wounds Schaub keeps producing at this stage of their development. They're not an ascending AFC playoff wannabe any more, they're an established, two-time division champion trying to seize their Super Bowl window of opportunity. Right now. Did you see the look on J.J. Watt's bloodied face after the excruciating and inexcusable loss to the Seahawks? This is no time to preach patience and talk about learning from one's mistakes. The training wheels have long since come off for Schaub and the Texans. Schaub is in his 10th NFL season and is supposed to be past the point of consistently making these kind of blunders. Houston's defense has given up just four touchdowns in the past three games, but Schaub has nearly matched that, serving up three all by himself. All told, Schaub has tossed at least one pick in Houston's past seven games, including the playoffs. The Texans are a decidedly mediocre 3-4 over that span, and after 2012's sparkling 11-1 start, Houston is just 4-6 in its past 10 games, including the postseason. Schaub threw for 355 yards and a pair of touchdowns against Seattle's tough defense, completing 31-of-49 passes to eight receivers. But he also threw two interceptions, and Houston's three turnovers led to 13 Seahawks points in a game the Texans outgained Seattle 476-270. Schaub's record fell to 1-5 in his last six games against 2012 playoff teams, and the buzzards started circling.The Texans fans who chose the rather sophomoric stunt of burning Schaub's jersey in the parking lot after the Seattle loss aren't what the veteran quarterback has to concern himself with. The trouble will come if his turnover struggles continue and his teammates or the coaching staff/front office start to view backup T.J. Yates or home-state fan favorite Case Keenum as a more viable QB option. We're not there now, but it's never a long way off in the NFL. Even for a guy like Schaub, who threw for 4,005 yards last season, with 22 touchdowns, a 64.3 completion percentage and a solid 90.7 passing rating.

Head coach Gary Kubiak and the Texans locker room sound solidly in Schaub's corner for now. But the Houston Chronicle report that Texans running back Arian Foster called a players-only meeting on Monday is a sure sign that all is not copacetic in Texans-land. As a result, Schaub will enter the primetime game against San Francisco with more pressure bearing down on his shoulder pads than he has ever experienced in his stint as a Texan. That's the reality of the situation, whether there's a decent reservoir of support for Schaub or not at the moment. He's one more damaging pick-six away from crisis territory.

Reading all the available tea leaves, I think it's all but over for Schaub in Houston and there won't be any way to put this genie completely back in the bottle. As many coaches and players believe, you're either getting better or you're getting worse in the NFL, and at best, Schaub's play has leveled off, putting him squarely among the ranks of quarterbacks who are good but far from elite. He has clearly helped Houston get to this point, but winning one playoff game and going out in the AFC divisional round two years running wasn't the goal the Texans were chasing. There were bigger dreams than that, but I'm convinced Schaub isn't the quarterback who's going to lead Houston those last few difficult rungs up the ladder. He was the right guy for a certain stage of the Texans' climb to relevance, but he hasn't raised his game as the stakes have increased.

Never a particularly demonstrative leader even when he was at his most successful, Schaub's body language and postgame demeanor seemed particularly defeated and downtrodden on Sunday. Understandable, of course, after that demoralizing turn of events. But that's when a quarterback needs to be his most defiant and resilient, and send the message to his coaches and teammates that his turnaround has already begun. At least mentally. Fiery isn't always good, but sometimes a dose of emotion is needed.
Schaub seemed at a total loss to explain or understand the game-changing mistakes that keep happening, and that makes it difficult to believe he knows how to fix the problem. Are there many who truly envision his best football being still to come in Houston? Chances seem better that it's in the past, but the Texans are a team that still must make the best of it with Schaub as their franchise quarterback in 2013. At least until they think they have no choice but to play Yates or Keenum.

According to a ProFootballTalk.com report on Monday, the Texans can escape from the four-year $69.7 million contract extension they awarded Schaub last September without great pain if they choose that path. The salary cap charges will be $3.5 million in 2014 if he's cut after June 1, and $7 million in 2015. But they also haven't guaranteed any of the $40 million he's still owed from the deal after 2013, and that's an important element of their out clause.
Schaub's play in the coming weeks will dictate which way his future unfolds in Houston. But the signs are beginning to look ominous. If the "just good enough to get you beat'' trend continues, his career as the Texans' No. 1 quarterback almost certainly won't.
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This is not a real burger. Call the restaurant if you don't believe me. 610 also reported that they called the restaurant only to find out it was not a real sandwich.
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Speak for yourself. I think it's hilarious and well deserved. Schaub deserves every bit of hate for his performances.
ok you think? You have never screwed up on your job? You idiots need to realize that this is a game first. The last thing I want is the guy to get gunshy. Most of the bashers have probably never done anything athletic in their lives and don't understand how hard it is. Its not like the Seahawks are a bunch of chumps.
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im so glad the national media has finally started bashing Schaub unlike the chronicle (only major newspaper in town) who babies schaub more than kubiak.

So glad that all the major sports outlets have started putting the heat on schaub because he has gotten away with it for far too long here in houston because of the utterly soft (probably paid off media see tania ganguli & mclain) houston media.

Congrats on being two years late.
You are not a true fan rookie. You are a bandwagon fan. Just jump off now please.
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