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If this is right, I feel pretty certain Kubiak and Smith knew this before they signed Schaub to the extension. So, if they knew this beforehand, why the heck did we offer him this huge contract? Were they both so arrogant as to believe that even though he has these major limitations, they could work around them because Kubiak is an offensive guru and could manage the QB and the team to a championship?



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Default Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”

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Schaub’s options predetermined

There’s a misconception that Matt Schaub can’t change plays at the line of scrimmage.

In the loss to Seattle, Schaub checked out of “a lot of situations,” according to coach Gary Kubiak.

The Texans don’t use conventional audibles where the quarterback can change the play and call what he wants based on the defense.

Schaub has a lot of freedom at the line of scrimmage. When the Texans are in their hurry-up offense, Schaub calls everything at the line of scrimmage. Otherwise, the Texans use predetermined options that are set by the coaches.

Schaub may call two plays in the huddle based on what the coverage might be. He can check out of one and go with the other at the line of scrimmage.

Kubiak created confusion on Monday when he was asked if Schaub could have checked out of the bootleg call that resulted in him forcing a pass to tight end Owen Daniels that was returned for a touchdown that tied the score 20-20.

Schaub should have thrown the ball away with blitzing strong safety Kam Chancellor in his face. Asked if Schaub could have called an audible, Kubiak said, “No, once we called it, started the motion, it was game on.”
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Default Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”

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This is why I hate the 'journalism' in sports so much. It's already bad enough at usual sphere, but in the sports sphere the so called, reporters are down right bad. That Schaub wasn't given a chance to change the play (or ever given a chance to change the play) is a myth.
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http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ng/?cmpid=hpbn
Don't blame the media, he was pretty straight forward with what he said. People took it to believe what they want to believe. We've been over this audible crap too many times.

Still, Kubiak is protecting Matt a bit here with what he said. The motion is supposed to help the QB see what's happening. That's why it's "important" for us to get to the LoS as quickly as possible.
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There is absolutely no way Kubiak is the head coach here next season.
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Screw all the predetermined stuff; here's an option, call a timeout!

This cutesy we're smarter than you so we're not changing things based on what the defense gives you is ridiculous. Why attack a weakness? Instead, let's throw a high pressured pass in the direction of the best CB in the league.
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This is why I hate the 'journalism' in sports so much. It's already bad enough at usual sphere, but in the sports sphere the so called, reporters are down right bad. That Schaub wasn't given a chance to change the play (or ever given a chance to change the play) is a myth.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ng/?cmpid=hpbn
Absolutely. Today's mainstream media is bad enough, but in sports media there's a limited set of subject matter to research. There are only 32 teams in the NFL. How difficult is it to know the basic philosophy and expectations of each team's offense? I could learn any one within an hour on Google. This NBC reporter just grabbed a Kubiak quote and half-assed his paycheck for the weekend.
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Absolutely. Today's mainstream media is bad enough, but in sports media there's a limited set of subject matter to research. There are only 32 teams in the NFL. How difficult is it to know the basic philosophy and expectations of each team's offense? I could learn any one within an hour on Google. This NBC reporter just grabbed a Kubiak quote and half-assed his paycheck for the weekend.
If you think the media is about getting facts then yes, they may gave half assed it.

If you think the media is about generating a buzz and getting more views, then they totally nailed it.
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Absolutely. Today's mainstream media is bad enough, but in sports media there's a limited set of subject matter to research. There are only 32 teams in the NFL. How difficult is it to know the basic philosophy and expectations of each team's offense? I could learn any one within an hour on Google. This NBC reporter just grabbed a Kubiak quote and half-assed his paycheck for the weekend.
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Default Re: Kubiak: Schaub couldn’t audible out of “very, very poor play”

What is funny in all of this is the fact some of you are surprised about Schaub not being able to audible at the line. This info has been know for at least 5 years now.

As Schaub states, he has 2 plays he goes into the huddle with. The main play and a check down play. If one isn't there, he calls the check down. If the check down get sniffed out, he goes back to the original play. Hell I didn't even have to read the article to know that...

It is beyond stupid and sad and we as fans will most likely have to put up with it another 3 years or so...

That Colt bandwagon sure does look roomy and cozy....
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Please, please, PUH-LEEZE tell me you aren't trying to compare the trials and tribulations of The Peyton to Matt Schaub. You absolutely can NOT make that comparison and to even bring something like that up is ludicrous. I would neither consider Manning nor Schaub "good" quarterbacks. The Peyton is probably the greatest QB of our time and the other is the complete polar opposite of that description. Good is somewhere in the middle.

Mr. Burro, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in on message board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
It's too bad you feel that way, but it doesn't make it any less true that good QBs even "the best of our generation" (who is actually Tom Brady, but that's another thread) go through rough spells and recover. If Schaub doesn't then he isn't as good as I and others thought, if he does then we can all cease sh*tting ourselves.
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Doesn't excuse Schaub...he had a few options at his disposal within that play to not screw up....but it's like i've been telling everyone...this guy is as much the problem as Schaub is....removing 1 does not get us out of the woods of this mess we have right now.
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He doesn't read defenses well. He doesn't go through progressions well. He doesn't see wide open receivers well. Why would you not believe that he does not have the ability to recognize what play to call in an audible?
Sorry CnD...this is just one of your most garbage posts...You don't put up the numbers he has & not know how to do those things...
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Screw all the predetermined stuff; here's an option, call a timeout!
This cutesy we're smarter than you so we're not changing things based on what the defense gives you is ridiculous. Why attack a weakness? Instead, let's throw a high pressured pass in the direction of the best CB in the league.
This!!!!
He could have taken that option even after the WR went in motion. He could call time out any time before the ball is snapped. So if he was aware that the DB was gonna blitz, why not call a time out so he and the smartest coach in the NFL could re-think this bad play?
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If you think the media is about getting facts then yes, they may gave half assed it.

If you think the media is about generating a buzz and getting more views, then they totally nailed it.
If the news media is willing to "get the facts" but not able, then they are incompetent.
If they are able, but then not willing then they are liars.
If they are both willing and able (but yet don't report the facts), then why pretend to "get the facts"?
If they are neither willing or able, then why are they called the news media?
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good QBs even "the best of our generation" (who is actually Tom Brady, but that's another thread)
Peyton's coaches make Kubiak look like Jim Carey.


Brady has a guy nicknamed the Brain & has been caught cheating.

One guy has a coaching Tree that looks like an Alqueda network. The other guys tree looks like a dot.
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It's too bad you feel that way, but it doesn't make it any less true that good QBs even "the best of our generation" (who is actually Tom Brady, but that's another thread) go through rough spells and recover. If Schaub doesn't then he isn't as good as I and others thought, if he does then we can all cease sh*tting ourselves.
I read this, and while I agree with what you are trying to say, I would counter with what your polar opposites in I and others think:

IF Schaub does recover, what does he recover to? I've seen enough in 7 years to know his ceiling is a borderline GREAT backup caliber QB or a mediocre starter, who has shown the ability to effectively manage a game for good stretches, but by no means has been the engine that makes the offense run. I've seen enough in the past 10 games he's started to have a reasonable expectation that his ceiling has already been realized and is in the rear view mirror.

You can put insert name here into the QB position and still see relative success from mediocrity given the complimenting players at RB, WR, TE and a decent OL. I give you Sage Rosenfels. no better, no worse than Schaub was. Just didn't have as long at the helm. I give you TJ Yates. again, we are in that fuzzy line of great backup/so so starter.

IMHO, you better load up on toilet paper, because I don't believe he's as good as he was, nor will be as good as you think he is.


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What is funny in all of this is the fact some of you are surprised about Schaub not being able to audible at the line. This info has been know for at least 5 years now.

As Schaub states, he has 2 plays he goes into the huddle with. The main play and a check down play. If one isn't there, he calls the check down. If the check down get sniffed out, he goes back to the original play. Hell I didn't even have to read the article to know that...

It is beyond stupid and sad and we as fans will most likely have to put up with it another 3 years or so...

That Colt bandwagon sure does look roomy and cozy....
Yep,

It's kinda sad that Gary doesn't trust and never has trusted his handpicked QB enough to let him audible at the LOS. Gary has typical Aggie control issues.
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You can put insert name here into the QB position and still see relative success from mediocrity given the complimenting players at RB, WR, TE and a decent OL. I give you Sage Rosenfels. no better, no worse than Schaub was. Just didn't have as long at the helm. I give you TJ Yates. again, we are in that fuzzy line of great backup/so so starter.
Sage is not equivalent to Schaub. If you had his performance in his best years, which were with the Texans, you get 2 more INTs than Schaub in this his worst year or you get 2 less TDs - take your pick. Sage was a 1 TD for 1 INT guy (TJ hasn't even been that good at 1 TD for 1.5 INTs).
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No, they said most blitzed. I heard it as well & had a flash back to the Carr era.
I also heard most blitzed and I'm 99.9% sure that was what they said.
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