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Old 09-30-2013   #1961
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When somebody spanks Gary's butt with that leash. LOL

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Kubiak hasn't thrown a TD pass to the opponent three straight weeks ....
Yeah, but he called the horrible play yesterday. Driving for the 2 possession lead when Foster is running strong, and you call that play into the huddle. Bad, bad Kubiak.
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Yeah, but he called the horrible play yesterday. Driving for the 2 possession lead when Foster is running strong, and you call that play into the huddle. Bad, bad Kubiak.
An NFL coach should be able to trust his NFL QB to do the right thing no matter what play is called. He shouldn't have to dumb down the offense for a 7 year starter in his system.
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Yeah, but he called the horrible play yesterday. Driving for the 2 possession lead when Foster is running strong, and you call that play into the huddle. Bad, bad Kubiak.
Don't necessarily have a problem with passing in that situation, would've preferred to run it. the choice of pass play however....big problem. The play action wasn't working at all yesterday...just about every single time they called it, Schaub had someone in his face....Even with that, Schaub has to be cognizant of the situation there & not throw that ball....
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The play action wasn't working at all yesterday...
The play action was fine. The bootleg wasn't.
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Don't necessarily have a problem with passing in that situation, would've preferred to run it. the choice of pass play however....big problem. The play action wasn't working at all yesterday...just about every single time they called it, Schaub had someone in his face....Even with that, Schaub has to be cognizant of the situation there & not throw that ball....
I'm sorry but Kubiak has to go now, his post game interview just sealed the deal for me. We all wondered if Kubiak trusted Matt, we know the answer now, he definitely doesn't trust his starting QB. Kubiak went Consveriak to start the 3rd quarter instead of just putting his foot on their throat, he tried to run the ball, then went all air Kubiak at the worst spot. Sherman was playing the right side of the field the entire game, way to go Kubiak attack their best CB, and one of the best in the NFL right now. Oh yah isolate Daniels on him, great idea.. not..

He's put Matt in that position, Matt made a HORRIBLE play, but if you have to tell a 8 year starter to throw the ball in the dirt on that play in that situation then you need a new starter.
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Honestly, I'd like Kubes as an offensive coordinator. He just lacks the charisma and situational awareness of a head coach. Can't complain with his offense over the last few years (considering the QB)
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We did move the ball well against arguably the leagues best Defense without our best offensive lineman...like I say, Kubiak is a good Offensive coordinator but not a good head coach (A head coach would have told Gary what to run on that critical play)
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I'm sorry but Kubiak has to go now, his post game interview just sealed the deal for me. We all wondered if Kubiak trusted Matt, we know the answer now, he definitely doesn't trust his starting QB. Kubiak went Consveriak to start the 3rd quarter instead of just putting his foot on their throat, he tried to run the ball, then went all air Kubiak at the worst spot. Sherman was playing the right side of the field the entire game, way to go Kubiak attack their best CB, and one of the best in the NFL right now. Oh yah isolate Daniels on him, great idea.. not..

He's put Matt in that position, Matt made a HORRIBLE play, but if you have to tell a 8 year starter to throw the ball in the dirt on that play in that situation then you need a new starter.
right, but see this is where i disagree with you. Josh Innes (as horrible as he is) was saying all last week that he doesn't think Kubiak trusts schaub...I find that hard to believe honestly. i think he trust Schaub just fine...maybe more than he should to be honest.

I mean we came out slinging it all over the place on the best secondary in the league....a number of those passes went towards the best cb in the league....the play call on the pick 6 also doesn't strike me as him not trusting his qb...b/c if that was the case he would've just ran it there. You don't do those things if you don't trust your qb to make plays for you.

Kubiak needs to go imo largely b/c of his misplaced loyalties with Marciano & Schaub and other coaches (Smith & Bush as DC's anyone?). but also b/c this team has continued to not play a full 60 minutes over the years. We're simply Jeckyl & Hyde with him. That's all on the HC & is inexcusable. How can we look like the best team in the league for a half & then completely wet the bed the next? Reminds me of the Norv Turner led Chargers.
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I liken Kubiak to a basketball coach that hasn't adapted to the fact that the 3 point shot has changed the game and made quick comebacks easier. You can't just run a 4 corners offense once you have a lead and expect to win every game.

I looked back over last season's games and saw that only 3 times in games that we won did we put up over 20 points in a 2nd half. 2 of those were the OT games where we had to come from behind to win and the 3rd was against the Titans and 14 of those points were because of INT returns for TDs. In the majority of the other games we had a good halftime lead and then went conservative to hold on to the win. In some (Miami, Jags, Balt, 2nd Ten game) that worked well and we won comfortably. Most of the rest were close games that we held on to win.

The NFL is a passing league now. Leads are as comfortable as they used to be. Atlanta was down 17 halfway through the 4th against NE and made it close and had a chance to tie. The hurry-up passing offense can be brutal on defenses. In theory the run the ball and use up valuable clock approach is great. When the offense executes correctly or the defense isn't geared up to stop it. It's a bigger strain on your own D if you can't keep a drive sustained and you force them to keep going out there against a hurry up.

Kubiak goes conservative at the wrong times. Usually too early. Yeah, we got a field goal at the end the 1st half, but it was because Carroll called the TOs and we had more time. If Carroll hadn't called the timeouts Kubiak would have let the half run out as is. It didn't matter that we had 3 of our own. At the end of the game when we should have been running the ball he calls for a play that everyone in the league knows to watch for. I realize Tate fumbled, but if you let him run the ball in that situation I think he gets a first down and we win the game.

We will win more games than we lose because we play some bad teams and we will win those. We also will beat a good team because everything goes our way. It should have happened yesterday, but we Kubiaked ourselves. In the long run, this team led by Gary Kubiak isn't a Super Bowl caliber team. We have the horses to get it done, but not the right guy leading the charge.
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Kubiak's leash should have ran out the year the Texans went 6-10 after a 9-7 season.

yet 2nd year coaches are going to the Super Bowl and our 8 year coach is still "learning" how to be a HC....
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After hearing Kubiak's comments today I know he needs to fired. He's not changing anything at all just practice and do the same crap hoping the mistakes aren't made. Schaub will choke and we will continue to lose and it doesn't matter if we had 20 more pro bowlers on this team.
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Default Re: At what point does Kubiak run out of leash?

So Kubiak doesn't trust Schaub to make decisions like that and/or he is arrogant enough to believe his system can overcome anything.

Think we need to dredge up the Fire Kubiak thread. Jeez.
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http://www.sports790.com/media/podca...ur-2-23774901/

At 7:40min mark, Lance Z gives us a glimmer of hope on what could be (or probably is) happening behind the scene
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Regardless of whether or not Kubiak's system allows Matt to audible out of the play, Matt made the worst decision possible. Take the Sack or throw the ball away. What is the point of having a "Game manager QB" if the QB doesn't know how to manage correctly?
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One guy doesn't make one mistake and cost us 6 points with three minutes left and we probably win the game against what most consider the best team in the league. Everyone would be talking about Superbowl. Now we are no better than 8 and 8. Gotta Love it
You "HAVE" been watching Houston Texans football, haven't you? How about you take the blinders off and try to look past a single game history. Go backwards 10 games. what do you see? 4 and 6 still feel like dancing?

You have to go back to the Thanksgiving Day game when the TExans were "Gifted" a win to be able to claim .500

Talking about Superbowl? I think some are well justified to talk Toiletbowl. The season has to play out, but recent history would indicate Superbowl is a laughable expectation.
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Honestly, I'd like Kubes as an offensive coordinator. He just lacks the charisma and situational awareness of a head coach. Can't complain with his offense over the last few years (considering the QB)
The last few years have somewhat of a consistent picture. Great opening drives, making opposing teams look almost outclassed, only to then struggle for a large chunk of the rest of the game and have to figure out how to make a game of it in the final minutes. Plenty of exceptions to this picture over a long stretch of games, but in general terms, the body of work rules in support of this observation. Now, is this a product of ineffective in-game adjustments? Poor conditioning? Playing not to lose play calling?

Mostly though, Kubiak FAILS to acknowledge the need for improvement at the most critical position on the team. It's been SO long since I've compared the statistics between Sage Rosenfels as a Texan and Matt Schaub, I forget the numbers, but they were WAY TOO SIMILAR.

If we were so quick to run Sage out of town over 1 play, I'm astounded by how many plays Schaub gets to stockpile.

Get rid of the gimp GARY!
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Great opening drives, making opposing teams look almost outclassed, only to then struggle for a large chunk of the rest of the game and have to figure out how to make a game of it in the final minutes. Plenty of exceptions to this picture over a long stretch of games, but in general terms, the body of work rules in support of this observation. Now, is this a product of ineffective in-game adjustments? Poor conditioning? Playing not to lose play calling?
& that's what we're waiting for. Them to put it all together at the right time for an extended period of time.
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