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Old 09-27-2013   #141
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Dear lord, nobody is ignoring the defensive issues. We've already said they haven't been spectacular. People are simply saying they haven't cost us games and have played well enough to win.. while the offense and and special teams have been downright awful at times and have put this defense in bad spots. Can the defense play better.. yes, but should this team be able to win if they only surrender 16 points.. hell yes. The defense is at least still respectable while the offense and STs have been anything but.. and they need a hell of a lot more improvement.
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Dear lord, nobody is ignoring the defensive issues. We've already said they haven't been spectacular. People are simply saying they haven't cost us games and have played well enough to win.. while the offense and and special teams have been downright awful at times and have put this defense in bad spots. Can the defense play better.. yes, but should this team be able to win if they only surrender 16 points.. hell yes. The defense is at least still respectable while the offense and STs have been anything but.. and they need a hell of a lot more improvement.
Lol, you saying they haven't been spectacular in 1 sentence in 1 post doesn't equal out to 783295790 threads done on the offense...It is pretty much ignoring.

& the defense hasn't cost us games and they've played well enough to win in 2 out of the 3 games. The same can be said for the offense as well...the SD and Tenn games they put up 30 +....would've been more if Bullock didn't catch the yips.
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Lol, you saying they haven't been spectacular in 1 sentence in 1 post doesn't equal out to 783295790 threads done on the offense...It is pretty much ignoring.

& the defense hasn't cost us games and they've played well enough to win in 2 out of the 3 games. The same can be said for the offense as well...the SD and Tenn games they put up 30 +....would've been more if Bullock didn't catch the yips.
??? I haven't been a part of the 78325970 threads.. but if there's that many threads saying the same thing, maybe that should tell you where the majority of the blame lies.
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My homemade stats tell me that Lechler has scored more points than our offense this year.
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Lol, you saying they haven't been spectacular in 1 sentence in 1 post doesn't equal out to 783295790 threads done on the offense...It is pretty much ignoring.

& the defense hasn't cost us games and they've played well enough to win in 2 out of the 3 games. The same can be said for the offense as well...the SD and Tenn games they put up 30 +....would've been more if Bullock didn't catch the yips.
Lol..you still think the offense and defense are on equal footing in this "blame game"? Take the 783294790 threads you don't agree with and multiply it by (pick) 6!
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Lol..you still think the offense and defense are on equal footing in this "blame game"? Take the 783294790 threads you don't agree with and multiply it by (pick) 6!
Never said they were on equal footing, only that the defense had its share of issues as well. This game doesn't really change that thought process b/c it all comes back to 1 person for me...Kubiak.

But for convo sake i'll bite. Coming into this game, all we heard about was how great Seattle's defense was & how it was going to be tough sledging for our offense against their secondary....the offense ran all over them in the 1st half & put up 20 pts..Good enough to win against a top team with a top defense? Maybe.....it depends on that teams offense.

The defense beasted on Seattle too & we looked like the best team in the league.

In saying that both sides looked good in the 1st half...hell even ST looked good.

The 2nd half, both fell off...even though the offense made the biggest mistake it didn't lose the game in the literal sense...it only tied it. both sides still had the opportunity to win it after that....& they both failed. & don't give me this b.s. about them being tired..

Point is, you couldn't expect the offense to continue to move the ball and put points on the board against the best defense in the league like they did in the 1st half anymore than you could expect our defense to continue stuffing Seattle's offense. If just 1 side of the ball continues to do what they did in the 1st half, we win the game regardless of Schaub's pick 6.

That's not excusing Schaub's dumb ass pick 6's it's merely taking into account everything. The defense picks the most inopportune time to fall down...........much like Schaub and the offense picking the most inopportune time to throw a damn pick 6.
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Never said they were on equal footing, only that the defense had its share of issues as well. This game doesn't really change that thought process b/c it all comes back to 1 person for me...Kubiak.

But for convo sake i'll bite. Coming into this game, all we heard about was how great Seattle's defense was & how it was going to be tough sledging for our offense against their secondary....the offense ran all over them in the 1st half & put up 20 pts..Good enough to win against a top team with a top defense? Maybe.....it depends on that teams offense.

The defense beasted on Seattle too & we looked like the best team in the league.

In saying that both sides looked good in the 1st half...hell even ST looked good.

The 2nd half, both fell off...even though the offense made the biggest mistake it didn't lose the game in the literal sense...it only tied it. both sides still had the opportunity to win it after that....& they both failed. & don't give me this b.s. about them being tired..

Point is, you couldn't expect the offense to continue to move the ball and put points on the board against the best defense in the league like they did in the 1st half anymore than you could expect our defense to continue stuffing Seattle's offense. If just 1 side of the ball continues to do what they did in the 1st half, we win the game regardless of Schaub's pick 6.

That's not excusing Schaub's dumb ass pick 6's it's merely taking into account everything. The defense picks the most inopportune time to fall down...........much like Schaub and the offense picking the most inopportune time to throw a damn pick 6. You see it's not how many points the defense gives up it's when they're doing it...
B.S. the defense only gave up 13 points yesterday (again and this is getting redundent) is good enough to win. People are NOT burning Watt ane Cushing jerseys today. They are burning schaub jerseys. This is now a offense driven league and ours is driving us off a cliff. Again, the defense was not and hasn't been the problem.

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B.S. the defense only gave up 13 points yesterday (again and this is getting redundent) is good enough to win. People are NOT burning Watt ane Cushing jerseys today. They are burning schaub jerseys. This is now a offense driven league and ours is driving us off a cliff. Again, the defense was and hasn't been the problem

& what? the offense put up 20 pts against the best defense in the league (monumental feat in and of itself) and gave back 7...so its a tie game going by your simple logic. You see how looking at things so simple-minded doesn't tell the whole story? Minus any 1 of the TO's committed by the offense wins us the game but people hone in on Schaub's pick 6 b/c it was at a critical point in the game. Likewise, this is also the 2nd time in as many games that the defense has let a team drive 98 yards down the field on them at a critical time in the game....But hey, they only gave up 13 points and that's all that matters right? Not exactly. When you do something also has a place in all this too.

But forget all that....THIS IS A TEAM GAME no matter how nice you want to try and compartmentalize it that's what it is....the greatest team game imo. & both sides of the ball had ample opportunities to put the game on ice before and after the pick 6. Lets also not forget that it was the defense that was on the field last who gave up the field goal in OT too though.

Whether it was the offense scoring more points in the last remaining drives they had or not turning the ball over.... or it was the defense in not letting Russell Wilson run all over the place converting key 3rd downs and/or committing penalties that put them in FG range...both sides fell off.

Doesn't matter what kind of league this is now..we all know that come playoff time, the offense goes by the wayside and defenses reign supreme.
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The offense put up 20 pts and gave up 7.

13 pts by your offense isn't going to win many games.
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The offense put up 20 pts and gave up 7.

13 pts by your offense isn't going to win many games.
I understand that, but a defense as good as ours also doesn't let a team they've dominated for 2.75 quarters drive 98 yards on them for 7 either.........unless they've gotten off the gas pedal purposely that is..Especially if its supposed to be the strongest part of your team...Those type of defenses take matters into their own hands.

instead what we saw was a defense begin to look clueless once 1 of its players went out with a concussion.
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& what? the offense put up 20 pts against the best defense in the league (monumental feat in and of itself) and gave back 7...so its a tie game going by your simple logic. You see how looking at things so simple-minded doesn't tell the whole story? Minus any 1 of the TO's committed by the offense wins us the game but people hone in on Schaub's pick 6 b/c it was at a critical point in the game. Likewise, this is also the 2nd time in as many games that the defense has let a team drive 98 yards down the field on them at a critical time in the game....But hey, they only gave up 13 points and that's all that matters right? Not exactly. When you do something also has a place in all this too.

But forget all that....THIS IS A TEAM GAME no matter how nice you want to try and compartmentalize it that's what it is....the greatest team game imo. & both sides of the ball had ample opportunities to put the game on ice before and after the pick 6. Lets also not forget that it was the defense that was on the field last who gave up the field goal in OT too though.

Whether it was the offense scoring more points in the last remaining drives they had or not turning the ball over.... or it was the defense in not letting Russell Wilson run all over the place converting key 3rd downs and/or committing penalties that put them in FG range...both sides fell off.

Doesn't matter what kind of league this is now..we all know that come playoff time, the offense goes by the wayside and defenses reign supreme.
Good grief, the defense gave up 10 points in regulation where the Seahawks had to drive any reasonable length...even when the offense fumbled on our 20 and the Seahawks kicked a FG, they gained 0 yards on the series.

I'm not real happy either about the 96 yard drive...I wish it wouldn't have happened...but come on, 10 points against the best team in the NFL? I'll take that any day. Like I said before, I could not care less when they give up the points.

The way I see it, the Texans D has given up a total of 61 points when the other team has had a normal drive, not the result of offensive mistakes deep in their own territory. That's darn good.
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I'm not real happy either about the 96 yard drive...I wish it wouldn't have happened...but come on, 10 points against the best team in the NFL?
Whoa, we aren't talking about the Broncos who are hanging 45 ppg on teams. Seattle is known primarily for their D which was ranked #1.
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