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Old 09-29-2013   #1061
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I don't know about worse ever, but it's pretty bad though. I just knew we were going to win once JJ got that INT. I can't believe Matt Schaub threw that pick 6. All we needed was FG and game was sealed.
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Matt might have been a good one back in the 70's or 80's. Not now. Not in any meaningful way. You can pile up statistics with him against weak-sisters but that's about it.
I really, really want to be on the bash Matt Schaub bandwagon today, but he just threw for 355 yards & 2 TDs against a team that's only been giving up 241 total yards through 3 games, 146 through the air.

I didn't get to see the second half, rain took out my dish, so all I had to go by was 610 & the gameday thread. I'm not trying to make excuses for Matt Schaub, don't really care to defend him... but he put some yards & some points on what will probably the toughest defense we'll play all year.

My biggest question, is why do we not see this guy when we're playing the Titans, the Chargers, or a struggling undermanned Ravens?

When his back's against the wall he seems to answer the bell. Put him out with a 17 point lead against one of the best defenses in the NFL & he's a totally different player. I just don't understand it.
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No. He can't even do that right. It'll leave scratches in your clear coat...

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I really, really want to be on the bash Matt Schaub bandwagon today, but he just threw for 355 yards & 2 TDs against a team that's only been giving up 241 total yards through 3 games, 146 through the air.

I didn't get to see the second half, rain took out my dish, so all I had to go by was 610 & the gameday thread. I'm not trying to make excuses for Matt Schaub, don't really care to defend him... but he put some yards & some points on what will probably the toughest defense we'll play all year.

My biggest question, is why do we not see this guy when we're playing the Titans, the Chargers, or a struggling undermanned Ravens?

When his back's against the wall he seems to answer the bell. Put him out with a 17 point lead against one of the best defenses in the NFL & he's a totally different player. I just don't understand it.
don't matter if his stats look good. he threw a pick 6 who was completely reading MS the whole time. No points in the second half? who's fault is this? I've been a MS fan since we've gotten him but he's declined.
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don't matter if his stats look good. he threw a pick 6 who was completely reading MS the whole time. No points in the second half? who's fault is this? I've been a MS fan since we've gotten him but he's declined.
Matt Schaub pu55ied up in the second half. He had more opportunities to win this game for us than anyone else & he repeatedly screwed the pooch.

Just saying he can put stats up against good teams as well as the weak little sisters.
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Every bit of this loss lies at the feet of Kubiak, and Schaub. Period
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Matt Schaub pu55ied up in the second half. He had more opportunities to win this game for us than anyone else & he repeatedly screwed the pooch.

Just saying he can put stats up against good teams as well as the weak little sisters.
Yep ... some of it is he can't run and others he folds like a cot .
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I really, really want to be on the bash Matt Schaub bandwagon today, but he just threw for 355 yards & 2 TDs against a team that's only been giving up 241 total yards through 3 games, 146 through the air.

I didn't get to see the second half, rain took out my dish, so all I had to go by was 610 & the gameday thread. I'm not trying to make excuses for Matt Schaub, don't really care to defend him... but he put some yards & some points on what will probably the toughest defense we'll play all year.

My biggest question, is why do we not see this guy when we're playing the Titans, the Chargers, or a struggling undermanned Ravens?

When his back's against the wall he seems to answer the bell. Put him out with a 17 point lead against one of the best defenses in the NFL & he's a totally different player. I just don't understand it.
Matt has looked the same to me for a while now. I don't really put stats at the forefront though. I'm watching these games and Matt is not a play maker, and he makes crushing mistakes.

This offense helps him put up his precious stats. This offense takes some of the pressure of being a playmaker off the qb and puts him in ideal situations with som easy throws.

But a better QB would take this team to another level. We have too much talent to be messing around with Schaub. We're playing with a handicap. And we still are pretty good.

It's not about us being good though...or good enough to get some shiny stats. It's about how much better we could be.

Let's not show up and aww shucks our way through games. Let's show up and kick the damn door down.
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Matt Schaub pu55ied up in the second half. He had more opportunities to win this game for us than anyone else & he repeatedly screwed the pooch.

Just saying he can put stats up against good teams as well as the weak little sisters.
I'll tell you what happened they stopped playing zone against us, man'd up our receivers and went to work on Matt Schaub. It was only a matter of time before he folded up like a wet napkin.

Any team we face is simply going to man up and blitz us like a liquor store on a friday night, I know I would.
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Matt Schaub pu55ied up in the second half. He had more opportunities to win this game for us than anyone else & he repeatedly screwed the pooch.

Just saying he can put stats up against good teams as well as the weak little sisters.

Right up until he can't. This season has been one long run of "Offense.....No Offense.....Wait! Offense Again!...... Never mind, it's gone now."

This system can put up stats against good teams as well as the weak sisters. Once the defense sorts out how to get into Matt's face and shut him down then they short him out and the system falls apart.

Just as before with David Carr, a QB who requires the rest of the offense to function perfectly and who can't create opportunities off-schedule is of no use to us. They get to him and he begins screwing up. Every offense screws up. Nobody scores a TD on every drive. Most drives that die short of a FG or TD die because someone makes a mistake. On a team where the QB is the one most likely to make the mistake you got real problems.

I can't imagine that Gary Kubiak thinks that the only thing Matt should do if the play doesn't go as planned is run out of the tackle box and throw the ball into the crowd on the sidelines. I really can't believe that he has laid down absolute instructions to that effect. I find myself thinking, believing if you will that Gary as much as the rest of us would like to see Matt turn a busted play into a positive gain but he almost never seems capable of doing it. The pressure comes toward him and he starts looking to the sidelines to get rid of it. Not only that but he does it earlier now than he used to. Today he was running toward the end zone and AJ and Nuk were both over there (if I ID'd them correctly) and he could have thrown it up there for one of them to make a play but no, he just threw it out of bounds.

Better safe than sorry. Want to make sure we get a FG if nothing else.

He might be the most uninspiring QB in the entire league.
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Right up until he can't. This season has been one long run of "Offense.....No Offense.....Wait! Offense Again!...... Never mind, it's gone now."

This system can put up stats against good teams as well as the weak sisters. Once the defense sorts out how to get into Matt's face and shut him down then they short him out and the system falls apart.

Just as before with David Carr, a QB who requires the rest of the offense to function perfectly and who can't create opportunities off-schedule is of no use to us. They get to him and he begins screwing up. Every offense screws up. Nobody scores a TD on every drive. Most drives that die short of a FG or TD die because someone makes a mistake. On a team where the QB is the one most likely to make the mistake you got real problems.

I can't imagine that Gary Kubiak thinks that the only thing Matt should do if the play doesn't go as planned is run out of the tackle box and throw the ball into the crowd on the sidelines. I really can't believe that he has laid down absolute instructions to that effect. I find myself thinking, believing if you will that Gary as much as the rest of us would like to see Matt turn a busted play into a positive gain but he almost never seems capable of doing it. The pressure comes toward him and he starts looking to the sidelines to get rid of it. Not only that but he does it earlier now than he used to. Today he was running toward the end zone and AJ and Nuk were both over there (if I ID'd them correctly) and he could have thrown it up there for one of them to make a play but no, he just threw it out of bounds.

Better safe than sorry. Want to make sure we get a FG if nothing else.

He might be the most uninspiring QB in the entire league.
MSR. Good post, man.

Schaub just doesn't have it. Time to move on.
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I don't know about worse ever, but it's pretty bad though. I just knew we were going to win once JJ got that INT. I can't believe Matt Schaub threw that pick 6. All we needed was FG and game was sealed.
For the life of me, I still can't figure out why we didn't call for a run on that play Schaub threw the pick six? We could have punted with Shane Lechler and pinned them inside the 10 yard line.

I feel our defense would have made a big stop to win the game 20-13 in regulation. The Seahawks would have needed to go the length of the field and not a lot of time left. That would have eliminated potential runs by Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. The Seahawks passing game was crap all game and our pass rush was more than good.

That Schaub pick six lost us the game. I'm still angry and frustrated.
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For the life of me, I still can't figure out why we didn't call for a run on that play Schaub threw the pick six? We could have punted with Shane Lechler and pinned them inside the 10 yard line.

I feel our defense would have made a big stop to win the game 20-13 in regulation. The Seahawks would have needed to go the length of the field and not a lot of time left. That would have eliminated potential runs by Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. The Seahawks passing game was crap all game and our pass rush was more than good.

That Schaub pick six lost us the game. I'm still angry and frustrated.
Your scenario could well be right, but Wilson can still scramble and get out of bounds while moving the chains. I don't have a bit of a problem with aggressive play calling by Kubiak, I have a problem with the execution by Schaub. Kubiak calls some pretty good games. Execution is the problem.
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For the life of me, I still can't figure out why we didn't call for a run on that play Schaub threw the pick six? We could have punted with Shane Lechler and pinned them inside the 10 yard line.

I feel our defense would have made a big stop to win the game 20-13 in regulation. The Seahawks would have needed to go the length of the field and not a lot of time left. That would have eliminated potential runs by Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch. The Seahawks passing game was crap all game and our pass rush was more than good.

That Schaub pick six lost us the game. I'm still angry and frustrated.
Kubiak was giving his qb a chance to win the game.

He now realizes he needs to not put so much on him because he obviously can't handle it.

Next time he'll go conservative. Schaub's not the guy you want to go all aggressive with.
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Kubiak was giving his qb a chance to win the game.

He now realizes he needs to not put so much on him because he obviously can't handle it.

Next time he'll go conservative. Schaub's not the guy you want to go all aggressive with.
And Kubiak will get just as much heat for going conservative. The best answer is to start a QB that can handle the heat. Schaubs awareness and physical limitations keep him from doing that. Yates and Keenum don't have the physical limitation issues. I'd love to see how they do with the pressure. It's old hat as to how Schaub handles it.

Kubiak needs to be aggressive and make a change at the most important position on the team. Man up and do it, Kubes.
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Kubiak was giving his qb a chance to win the game.
We had just scored, we were up 14-3. Cushing forces Lynch to cough up the ball, our offense is on the 18 yard line, can't punch it in.

Seattle's defense had just given up a substantial scoring drive, they're right back on the field & they hold us to a FG. This is with Andre running free in the back of the end zone, little pressure around Schaub, but he throws it away.

Of course, we had to settle for a FG later on as well.

That's 8 points we left on the field.
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We had just scored, we were up 14-3. Cushing forces Lynch to cough up the ball, our offense is on the 18 yard line, can't punch it in.

Seattle's defense had just given up a substantial scoring drive, they're right back on the field & they hold us to a FG.

Of course, we had to settle for a FG later on as well.

That's 8 points we left on the field.
And those 8 points are on the offense.
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