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Old 09-27-2013   #1
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Top 5:
1.) Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
2.) Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
3.) Tajh Boyd, QB, Clemson
4.) Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
5.) Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame

Top 10:
6.) C.J. Mosley, ILB/OLB, Alabama
7.) Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
8.) Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
9.) Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
10.) A.J. Johnson, ILB, Tennessee

Top 15:
11.) Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
12.) Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida
13.) HaHa Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
14.) Marqise Lee, WR, USC
15.) Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

Top 20:
16.) Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
17.) De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
18.) Ra'Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
19.) Ifo Ekpre-Olomu CB, Oregon
20.) James Hurst, OT, North Carolina

Top 25:
21.) Morgan Breslin DE USC
22.) Cyril Richardson, OT/G, Baylor
23.) Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
24.) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
25.) Christian Jones, LB, Florida State

Top 30:
26.) Trent Murphy, DE, Stanford
27.) Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
28.) David Yankey, OT, Stanford
29.) Gabe Jackson, G, Mississippi State
30.) A.J. McCarron, QB, Alabama

Top 35:
31.) Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
32.) Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
33.) Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M
34.) Aaron Lynch, DE, South Florida
35.) David Fales, QB, San Jose State

Top 40:
36.) Will Sutton DT, Arizona State
37.) Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
38.) Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
39.) Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon
40.) Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas

Top 45:
41.) Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
42.) Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
43.) Ka'Deem Cary, RB, Arizona
44.) Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
45.) Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State

Top 50:
46.) Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
47.) Dominique Easley, DE, Florida
48.) Cassius Marsh, DT, UCLA
49.) Andrew Jackson, ILB, Westren Kentucky
50.) Quandre Diggs CB Texas

OFF my board:
Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA,
Ryan Shazier, ILB/OLB, Ohio State
Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU

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Good Early List R&R. Only real difference is Manziel, my early thoughts is he will be in Top 10.
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I think its pretty good, but Mike Evans should also be in there somewhere as well. Guy is a matchup nightmare and he'll run in the mid 4.5 range. Still learning how to play the position while dominating.
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I think its pretty good, but Mike Evans should also be in there somewhere as well. Guy is a matchup nightmare and he'll run in the mid 4.5 range. Still learning how to play the position while dominating.
You are so right I accidentally left him off
I am going too add him

Edit: Evans has been out into Matthews spot and Hoffman who was at 50 now excluded from the top 50

I had him in my rankings but accidentally left him off durning my rankings I put him where I feel he ranks accordingly

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Good Early List R&R. Only real difference is Manziel, my early thoughts is he will be in Top 10.
That's why it's MY big board as in I would not draft Manziel he is not what I would want in a QB and I don't think his skill transition too the next level can't always depend on magic that does my fly in the NFL

Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M - overrated over hyped
Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA - not. True defender and where he will go I want no part of. I think there are better OLB available later on.
Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame - people are too high on nix and again I want no part of a DT in the first unless they are a sure fire like Star was last year I don't see that in Nix.
Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State - overrated overhyped
Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA - I'm sorry I don't see it I like many other QBs more then I like Hundley and I need too see him be better in big games and take over
He will be just average to me I don't get why he is desired as a QB.
Ryan Shazier, ILB/OLB, Ohio State - small and undersized, he will be eaten alive at the next level over valued. I love the little guy winning but like many other small LBera they get weeded out
Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU - like many LSU defenders except a few but he is not one Johnson will be a bust no technique all athletic and not a hard worker or willingness to want too be great I will not draft him
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That's why it's MY big board
Yes it is! And those were MY comments about YOUR big board. With no give and take why have a message board? Or were you just looking for adoration and applause? If that is the case then by all means
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Yes it is! And those were MY comments about YOUR big board. With no give and take why have a message board? Or were you just looking for adoration and applause? If that is the case then by all means
Don't talk crazy too me old man!
No I'm just over the Manziel hype
I love all opinions and that could be said too the poster and the commenter

I left him off
He said he would be a top 10 pick
With Johnny football it's all in or all out
I'm on the all out side
And the commenter is a all in kind of guy

I was just staying that's why I posted the way I did cause its MINE
Not making it too were I please others
Don't want people thinking I based my thoughts or rankings off of others

That is all fellow draft enthusiast nothing more nothing less

Why are you so quick too escalate somethen that is nothing that is the true question? Little instigator is what you are.
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Don't talk crazy too me old man!
No I'm just over the Manziel hype
I love all opinions and that could be said too the poster and the commenter

I left him off
He said he would be a top 10 pick
With Johnny football it's all in or all out
I'm on the all out side
And the commenter is a all in kind of guy

I was just staying that's why I posted the way I did cause its MINE
Not making it too were I please others
Don't want people thinking I based my thoughts or rankings off of others

That is all fellow draft enthusiast nothing more nothing less

Why are you so quick too escalate somethen that is nothing that is the true question? Little instigator is what you are.
You're an Individual and at times you can be the contrarian (How's Teo ?)
No one should think that you don't do your own homework. You've never been known to copy off McShay or Kiper's paper. I on the other hand will steal Mayock's answers ASAP

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I love Barr/NixRichardson.

All of those guys would look great in Texans gear.

Manziel is the greatest boom/bust guy in the draft. He could be Russell Wilson/Brees or he could be Flutie. Risk/Reward
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You're an Individual and at times you can be the contrarian (How's Teo ?)
No one should think that you don't do your own homework. You've never been known to copy off McShay or Kiper's paper. I on the other hand will steal Mayock's answers ASAP
Mayock is my favorite and he is the true draft guru in the media
I really like mayock alot he does it 24/7 and he admits his wrongs
I might have been a little wrong on Te'o but I would have still drafted him and I still believe in him. He has done it too long and been so good too not draft him.
He can attack the line play multiple schemes and cover

He had one bad game that everyone remembers and has been injured
He is starting this week we will know alot more now after this week and going forth

Any insight you would like too bring to the conversation Texian?
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I love Barr/NixRichardson.

All of those guys would look great in Texans gear.

Manziel is the greatest boom/bust guy in the draft. He could be Russell Wilson/Brees or he could be Flutie. Risk/Reward
Or Vince Young

Just cuz ones successful doesn't mean he will be a good NFL player
And I know you know that SteelB just saying it too say it

He is small, cocky, and a loose cannon
I love watching him play but I'm just giving my honest opinion
I am not a Johnny football hater
I like him don't agree with all of his decisions off the field
But what he does is his life

He is an extremely talented football player
But with size and limitations plus some character concerns and the gun slinger mantality can be crippling too a ball club when your QB is suppose too be accountable and balanced and put you in winnable situations

I just don't see it

But if he does do it at the next level wow that would be awesome
It would be tebow mania all over again but instead Manziel Mania

I just hope in 2014 we hit a solid and well rounded draft

Top 3 RDs should be starters of we draft 3 out of my top 50
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Your opinion on Fales as he is all over the place tonight against Utah State. I have been a fan and he is off slightly so far this season.
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Don't talk crazy too me old man!
No I'm just over the Manziel hype
I love all opinions and that could be said too the poster and the commenter
I think your list is reflective of the Manziel anti-hype. I believe most of the mediots are thinking the same & someone is going to get a good QB on the cheap. Hopefully it'll be a team ready for a QB, like New England or Denver, Chicago, but not looking for him to start right away. I'd hate for him to go to one of the QB needy teams.... Jacksonville or some such that'll throw him out there & expect him to make miracles happen.

That said, I'm seeing a lot of OTs on your list. Hopefully a good one will slide to 32 or so.... we could use one. I'm a Newton fan & think he can recover. But the better that OL is, the better the Texans are.
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I know thunder I agree big on OL because they are diverse and safe
Noticed your Avatar I had high expectations for Quessenberry he will be a starter next year he is too good
I'm not a newton fan
He is a bench player nothing more nothing less he has no business being a starter plain and simple
I'm scared Jerry would actually get smart fire Garrett and draft Manziel and play romo a few more years and then start the Manziel era
I would never stop hearing Johnny football now and then if he was a cowboy my lord the hype would go to a whole new level
But I believe he will go too a good team which is good for him
I will say this I was wrong about Mettenberger and I am very impressed with him this season and Evans is going up lee is going down injured HC fired and seems too be losing motivation to perform at an elite level or maybe it's the pathetic QB play at USC but Lee seems too have lost his mojo
I'm constantly on stock watch but combine will be my deciding factor

I just take those guys off that I feel are too risky and have high bust potential
I don't do drama lazy unproven hype all that stuff
I go with what is certain and proven and has the measurables and the tape too back up their talents

Barr is intriguing but I can't draft a nobody RB to FB to star OLB
He rushes well and is still learning but I don't see Barr running down RB and WR and looks stiff sometimes against the run surprisingly
It's like he thinks too much or doesn't know what he is doing which is possible cuz he is only one full season at OLB
Prolly more comfortable this season
But he is only good at rushing and using his size for rushing not stopping the run

Y'all know how I feel about Johnny
Johnson I don't see it and I don't know why people value him as a desirable prospect
I would be shocked if his stock remains a 1st RD grade after interviews and combine
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Your opinion on Fales as he is all over the place tonight against Utah State. I have been a fan and he is off slightly so far this season.
Well I like Fales because I like his numbers
Alot will be determined this year too see if he can put those numbers in back to back years and prove he can take advantage of weaker competition

He is not the biggest defiantly not the fastest
He is not the new golden dual threat QB that is desired at the moment

With the QB position being so deep this year I could see Fales slipping very far as teams scoop up skill players and uglies.
I think the Murray's and Mettenbergers and Fales and many many more will go past the 3rd RD

I believe Fales will be off my Top 50 by seasons end to be honest

Alot like last year with Barkley Wilson and others who went mid too late rounds last years draft.

If your not dynamic and a playmaker then a team can't justify selecting you high cuz nowadays anyone can sling the rock
You have too show a special quality for teams too fall in love with you
One has too separate themselves from the pack and Fales as well as others doesn't do that

Right now Fales is just hanging on by his numbers from last year and I'm defiantly monitoring him closely this season
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I'm not a newton fan
He is a bench player nothing more nothing less he has no business being a starter plain and simple
Don't talk crazy too me old man!


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I just take those guys off that I feel are too risky and have high bust potential
I don't do drama lazy unproven hype all that stuff
I go with what is certain and proven and has the measurables and the tape too back up their talents
& that's the way it should be. The best players are the best player.

I think some people confuse mock drafts with best available lists. Big difference & both have their use.


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Johnson I don't see it and I don't know why people value him as a desirable prospect
I would be shocked if his stock remains a 1st RD grade after interviews and combine
Jamarcus & Vince shouldn't have been on anyone's best available, but the value of QB & desperation of certain teams have to be accounted for.

At the same time, Ponder & Locker probably went early as well, but for the Vikings & the Titans.... what are you going to do? It may work out for both of them, who knows?
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& that's the way it should be. The best players are the best player.

I think some people confuse mock drafts with best available lists. Big difference & both have their use.




Jamarcus & Vince shouldn't have been on anyone's best available, but the value of QB & desperation of certain teams have to be accounted for.

At the same time, Ponder & Locker probably went early as well, but for the Vikings & the Titans.... what are you going to do? It may work out for both of them, who knows?
I agree with Ponder and Locker
That was the year of the lock out and alot of uncertain was swilig around with cap and dates and everything
So those clubs felt they needed too go early on QB and take Ponder and Locker which was a surprise
Gabbert as well
I'm really picky on QB prolly more so then most.

I'm all in on Bridgewater&Boyd&Mariota no one else I would draft to be an immediate starter
Others I like as a grooming future QB

I knew Jamarcus was a just and Calvin Johnson was the real deal
I was all in on Calvin after his freshman year and as I predicted he is the best
I couldn't believe Raiders passed on him for Jamarcus I saw that coming 100 miles away

He sucked at LSU great measurables but that's it no leadership no character no motivation didn't har the right people or circle
A me guy not team guy epic fail

He lost his starting position too Flynn at LSU and pissed a fit about it and then still got drafted #1 overall I was shocked
Raiders are idiots

Vince young I thought would struggle but I didn't anticipate him being so bad
He got Rookie of the year so how which I thought was a bad call
And after that it was down hill and he is not even in the league which is stunning
It's all about above the shoulders and the arm with QB

Jamarcus Young Lienart and many others have shown that much
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Well that is one of the strangest first names I've heard in a while.
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Ya that pretty much drops him down into the 30s
He will be a mid 2nd RD selection

Even though he is suspended
He is a very talented safety with good size and speed
Bama pedigree
He will drop before the combine and then grade out well after and rise too 2nd RD status and considering the desire for safeties now and the lack of depth at the position he will be a 2nd RD selection
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