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Old 09-25-2013   #1
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The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have decided to bench quarterback Josh Freeman for rookie Mike Glennon, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.
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Josh Freeman a Texan in 2014? It wouldn't shock me. Somebody with some experience who's had two solid seasons in the NFL already in 2010 and 2012. I'd feel more comfortable with him than I do with Yates and Keenum. His completion percentage would drastically improve in Gary Kubiak's offense. He could probably make a few pro bowls if he played on a team with the talent the Texans have. He's only 25 years old too.

I should clarify: I'm not saying to run Matt Schaub out of town. I believe Josh Freeman can be our backup QB for a season or two - enough time to fully grasp Kubiak's system - assuming he's still our head coach. Schaub is already aging towards retirement even though he's barely 32 years old. That Lisfranc injury, even though it happened two seasons ago, affecting his play could be true. I didn't want to believe it but the proof is in the play. I can't imagine him playing much longer.
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Bucs are a mess.

I'm not really a glennon fan but it doesn't matter if they don't develop their guys.
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Tampa Bay is trying to trade him now (shopping him around) but I doubt they're going to find any active takers with his remaining salary for the rest of this season. I think he's making $8.4 million the rest of the season before he becomes an unrestricted free agent this off-season.

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as a minimum salary free agent, we'd be quick to bring him in. i doubt he'd get more attention than that though. he's been starting long enough to be damaged goods. too much needs to be fixed, i doubt anyone gives him a real shot at starting.
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I have been rooting for Freeman but it's clear he doesn't have it. The dude has zero leadership qualities. I think the last straw was him sleeping in and missing the team photos. That just demonstrates his lack of commitment.

The sad thing is the team has a lot of talent and is actually pretty good. They are 2 plays away from being 2-1 and physically were beating down the Pats in the first quarter and a half. However they couldn't take advantage because of Freeman's bad play and the Pats finally got it going.

Glennon is wasted pick IMO. I don't see him being a NFL QB. Looks like the Bucs will be competing for a first round QB.

Freeman is talented. Maybe Kubiak could do something with him however he is not the answer to replace Schaub.
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as a minimum salary free agent, we'd be quick to bring him in. i doubt he'd get more attention than that though. he's been starting long enough to be damaged goods. too much needs to be fixed, i doubt anyone gives him a real shot at starting.
Freeman could start for:

Jets
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Browns
Cardinals
Titans
Raiders
Vikings

He would be better than anything those teams have on the roster. He's not a great QB, but he isn't a bum either.

This is just Greg Schiano showing once again that he is a classless douche.
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Freeman could start for:

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Raiders
Vikings

He would be better than anything those teams have on the roster. He's not a great QB, but he isn't a bum either.

This is just Greg Schiano showing once again that he is a classless douche.
Disagree with some teams on that list. Freeman has looked horrible this season. Geno Smith outplayed him head to head in week 1. Locker is outplaying him now. Hoyer looked better last week.
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I have been rooting for Freeman but it's clear he doesn't have it. The dude has zero leadership qualities. I think the last straw was him sleeping in and missing the team photos. That just demonstrates his lack of commitment.

The sad thing is the team has a lot of talent and is actually pretty good. They are 2 plays away from being 2-1 and physically were beating down the Pats in the first quarter and a half. However they couldn't take advantage because of Freeman's bad play and the Pats finally got it going.

Glennon is wasted pick IMO. I don't see him being a NFL QB. Looks like the Bucs will be competing for a first round QB.

Freeman is talented. Maybe Kubiak could do something with him however he is not the answer to replace Schaub.
Agree on all counts, Bucs see the head start other teams are getting in tanking their season for draft position and decided they wanted in on the goodies.

This 'not putting your best 22 out there' is going to become a problem, I think.
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Freeman could start for:

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Raiders
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He would be better than anything those teams have on the roster. He's not a great QB, but he isn't a bum either.

This is just Greg Schiano showing once again that he is a classless douche.
like i said, damaged goods. he wouldnt start for any of those teams. maybe as a rookie to be molded he had the talent to start for a handful of teams, but right now i doubt many would drop a poor starter for a poor starter.
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like i said, damaged goods. he wouldnt start for any of those teams. maybe as a rookie to be molded he had the talent to start for a handful of teams, but right now i doubt many would drop a poor starter for a poor starter.
He would start for the Vikings and would be better than Ponder or Cassel. He can at least chuck the ball 60 or 70 yards to Jennings if need be (might not be all that accurate, but it'll at least get there), which is something neither of those guys can do.
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I feel that Freeman has all the makings of a decent QB. The oversleep incident is inexcusable, but in the right organization, that or similar incidences would happen once and only once, and he would quickly be put in line. His support cast has been suspect, and I feel that if he were taken under the wing of a decent QB coach, his performance could easily be notched up significantly. JMO
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There are rumors floating around the Tampa boards that Freeman parties too much and may have an aldon smith level problem with either alcohol and/or coke.

FWIW, you can find quotes around where I said I would rather have Freeman than Matt s. Primarily because of a younger player.
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There are rumors floating around the Tampa boards that Freeman parties too much and may have an aldon smith level problem with either alcohol and/or coke.

FWIW, you can find quotes around where I said I would rather have Freeman than Matt s. Primarily because of a younger player.
I frequent one Bucs board and listen to a lot of Tampa sports radio during the day when I am running around and that's the first I have heard that. That said it wouldn't shock me. The guy sounds like a stoner (or always out of it) on his weekly radio show.

Something is definitely wrong with him. At times he has looked great (not this season however) and other times he looks like David Carr.

Schiano knew this was coming also. To me it was bizarre that Glennon was getting most of the reps during the preseason, especially after Freeman looked like utter dog crap on his only series. Now it makes sense because it's clear to me now that Schiano had no intention of keeping him on.

I just noticed also that the game is going to be blacked out on Sunday. The Texans game is showing on my Directv guide where the Bucs normally are.
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I remember a writer has Glennon on the texans mock draft saying we should have drafted him

has far has Freeman o well this is the NFL on 32 QB's and 32 backups so there is not a lot of room for error


of what like the 500 million people in the United states only 64 can be a QB in the NFL that's crazy

that gets me thinking how many pick sixes can matt throw till he gets benched for yates or Keenum ...LOL

o and gleeon is huge height wise hes like taller then flacco but yeah
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Freeman could start for:

Jets
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Raiders
Vikings

He would be better than anything those teams have on the roster. He's not a great QB, but he isn't a bum either.

This is just Greg Schiano showing once again that he is a classless douche.
I doubt the Jets are going to want Freeman over Geno

I doubt the Browns are looking to move on from the Hoyer era any time soon.

I wouldn't trade Locker for Freeman..... looks like he's starting to figure some things out.

Definitely not finished with the Pryor experiment in Oakland (& he's on my fantasy team)

& Ponder may not be as talented as Freeman, but he's a better QB so far.

Jags, Cardinals.... probably so.
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I frequent one Bucs board and listen to a lot of Tampa sports radio during the day when I am running around and that's the first I have heard that. That said it wouldn't shock me. The guy sounds like a stoner (or always out of it) on his weekly radio show.

Something is definitely wrong with him. At times he has looked great (not this season however) and other times he looks like David Carr.

Schiano knew this was coming also. To me it was bizarre that Glennon was getting most of the reps during the preseason, especially after Freeman looked like utter dog crap on his only series. Now it makes sense because it's clear to me now that Schiano had no intention of keeping him on.

I just noticed also that the game is going to be blacked out on Sunday. The Texans game is showing on my Directv guide where the Bucs normally are.
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I bet Lombardi et al in Browns front office were screaming that Hoyer was supposed to lose games and improve their draft slot, not win.


Which brings up a point -- does the NFL have any kind of duty to be competitive clause for teams?

I was wondering while watching ESPN baseball analysts arguing about who's the better team and one said Team A's record was inflated because they played the Astros x-many more times than Team B did.

Next NFL draft class is supposed to have quality QBs, and I think you can see teams trying to tank for that. Seems awfully early to be throwing away 2013 season, and those fans are getting ripped off.
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