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Old 09-24-2013   #61
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Kareem Jackson has all the tools to become an All Pro and one of the better young corners in the league, but he is consistently caught with frustrating pass interference penalties because he's not turning around his head and playing the ball. There were a couple scoring drives by Baltimore just because of Kareem Jackson not playing smart.
We keep saying that his problem is not turning for the ball. Both instances this past Sunday, he looked at the ball.

The first, I think the problem was that he arm barred the receiver several steps before the ball got there, before he turned. That is pass interference. It's not going to get corrected if we're not identifying the right problem. I hope Van Joseph understands the call..... I'm sure he does.

The second one, he turned & looked for the ball, but his right hand was pulling down on the receiver's left arm.... that is pass interference as well.

Both are not about playing stupid, it's lack of confidence. The arm bar because he lacks the confidence to run step for step with the receiver. The second because he lacked confidence in finding the ball, or outjumping the receiver.

I'm a Kj fan, but year 4, he should have those things worked out.

FYI: I'd rather make the referee throw that flag than give up a TD, which both of those would have been, so they may very well have been smart plays... other than the fact that he was beat.
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The only tool Kareem Jackson is missing is a neck so he can turn it around to locate the ball.
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OK. Look at the totals and make up your own mind. The Texans D sux at stopping people once they are in the red zone. The Texans O is still better than the Texans D in the red zone.

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It doesn't matter. This is a team game. putting one against the other doesn't do anyone any good.



It's not about scoring points, or not scoring. It's about scoring more than the other team, whether we need to score 40 or 13 to make that happen, we need to make that happen to win games.

It was 17-9 Ravens at the half. The offense didn't score another point. The defense allowed 13. All the 3 & outs in the first half don't mean squat if we couldn't get them off the field in the second.... when it really mattered.
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Doc, are you drinking the Kubiac Cool aid or something? You can't possibly put any of this struggles on the defense. The D has been playing better and better. Besides a couple of big plays last sunday, the Ravs got about 2.5 yards per attempt. Get a clue dude. Our offense keep going 3 and out, what do you expect the D to do? people get tired, you know?? The original post of this topic shows that Cush got frustrated, and why would he? at least he tries....so what if the D don't force the Turn over? it's not their job to score the last time I check. The Ravens scored Like 13 points when the game mattered....get with the program, dude!!
Baltimore's first possession after the half, they drove 80 yards for touchdown. Why was the defense so tired?

What was an 8 point game (17-9) now becomes a 15 point game. That's the kind of pressure that changes your whole offensive game plan. Makes some teams one dimensional.

The offense then burns 3 minutes off the clock, no score. The defense allows the Ravens 3 minutes, then punt, The Texans offense burns another 4 minutes then punts. Third Qtr is over.

The Ravens take the ball at their 30 yard line, burn 6 minutes off the clock, travel fifty-some yards & kicks a field goal. It's now an 18 point game with 9 minutes in the 4th Qtr.

At this point, neither the offense or the defense has done anything to get the Texans closer to winning this game.

We take the ball at the 20, burn 4 minutes to travel 30 yards, then turns it over on downs at the 50. It's now a 3 possesion game with 5 minutes remaining.

25 yards & 4 minutes later, the defense allows another field goal. It is now a 21 point game. We need three TDs with a minute left.

When it counted, the defense did not help us win.

When it counted, the offense did not help us win.
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I don't understand what anyone's lack of production has to do with there being members of the team that don't believe in the other units.


Me either but .... Do you believe in the offense or special teams !?!?

I have for a long time made excuses for Schaub & Co but this stretch of games , despite winning two of them has forced me to the conclusion that they just aint that good. Its hard to overlook the mistakes and inadequacies of this offense under Schaub.
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Baltimore's first possession after the half, they drove 80 yards for touchdown. Why was the defense so tired?

What was an 8 point game (17-9) now becomes a 15 point game. That's the kind of pressure that changes your whole offensive game plan. Makes some teams one dimensional.

The offense then burns 3 minutes off the clock, no score. The defense allows the Ravens 3 minutes, then punt, The Texans offense burns another 4 minutes then punts. Third Qtr is over.

The Ravens take the ball at their 30 yard line, burn 6 minutes off the clock, travel fifty-some yards & kicks a field goal. It's now an 18 point game with 9 minutes in the 4th Qtr.

At this point, neither the offense or the defense has done anything to get the Texans closer to winning this game.

We take the ball at the 20, burn 4 minutes to travel 30 yards, then turns it over on downs at the 50. It's now a 3 possesion game with 5 minutes remaining.

25 yards & 4 minutes later, the defense allows another field goal. It is now a 21 point game. We need three TDs with a minute left.

When it counted, the defense did not help us win.

When it counted, the offense did not help us win.
I disagree with a lot of your takes...but I have to say, you are one of the most level headed posters here. msr.
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"... we gotta do something, they ain't going to do it"

That sounds like something that Foster, Daniels or Hopkins might have been saying about the defense, just about the time that JJo was drawing a taunting penalty, Flacco was drawing Cushing offsides and KJ was getting one interference call after another.
Cushing has more touchdowns than Andre Johnson right now and just as many as Foster.
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Baltimore's first possession after the half, they drove 80 yards for touchdown. Why was the defense so tired?

What was an 8 point game (17-9) now becomes a 15 point game. That's the kind of pressure that changes your whole offensive game plan. Makes some teams one dimensional.
You know what changes your offensive game plan? Pick six's and not scoring many points.

Bringing up the defense is like complaining about a papercut when you just got shot in the face.

The offense scored 9 points. 9 points. Gave up 7.

The offense and defense were not equal on sunday. One was obviously MUCH worse.

Lucky said it best. Defense could have pitched a shutout and we still lose.
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You know what changes your offensive game plan? Pick six's and not scoring many points.

Bringing up the defense is like complaining about a papercut when you just got shot in the face.

The offense scored 9 points. 9 points. Gave up 7.

The offense and defense were not equal on sunday. One was obviously MUCH worse.

Lucky said it best. Defense could have pitched a shutout and we still lose.
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And the defense didn't do it, either. Nice story. You should've started it as "once upon a time".

Nuff said.
I'm not buying that. They DID do it. How many three and outs did they force.. to me that's as good as a TO, because it sets your offense up with good field position and what did the offense do with that excellent field position? Not a damn thing. The defense did their job against the Ravens, did they give up some plays.. yes they did, but that's how today's game is now. The rules are geared towards helping the offense and a competent offense should be able to move the ball against any defense during spurts of the game. The Ravens were able to make enough plays.. our offense wasn't.. ball game.

That loss was not on the defense, the defense was the only facet of the team that showed up on Sunday. The offense and STs (outside of our punter) never even made it off the plane.
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You know what changes your offensive game plan? Pick six's and not scoring many points.

Bringing up the defense is like complaining about a papercut when you just got shot in the face.

The offense scored 9 points. 9 points. Gave up 7.

The offense and defense were not equal on sunday. One was obviously MUCH worse.

Lucky said it best. Defense could have pitched a shutout and we still lose.
How many 3 & outs did they pitch after half-time? They allowed 13 points after half time. That was not good enough to win the game.

The offense stunk it up. Didn't score a point in the second half.... I'm not denying that. But the offense didn't win any games this year. The defense didn't win any games this year.

It's a team sport & they've got to work hand in hand. If the defense gives up 28 points in the first three qtrs, the offense has to score 28+ in the forth to win the game.

If the offense had packed it in & said, "Well, the defense gave up 28 points in the first three qtrs.... let's call it a day." Are we going to blame the offense for only scoring 7 points?

If they scored 21 points would we say, "The offense did their job, the defense gave up 28."

The defense played well enough to win in the first half. Can't say the same about the second half.
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How many 3 & outs did they pitch after half-time? They allowed 13 points after half time. That was not good enough to win the game.
Short of getting a turnover and scoring themselves, nothing they could have done was "good enough to win".

Really it's just slight of hand to point fingers at the defense. We lost the game because the offense did nothing and special teams gave up points.
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I don't think it's really much of a topic. I saw a complete breakdown in nearly every facet of the game. Bullock was oddly enough the only guy who got it done. So Cushing can see that the offense is crapping the bed. It's not like the defense didn't crap the bed too. Special teams can't say anything to either one because they crapped the bed as well.

Coaches. Crap everywhere.

Complete failure almost across the board. If they want to start calling each other out and pointing fingers after week three then it's going to be a long ugly season and I'm not ready to start talking about the draft just yet.
Have to say I rarely agree with Herv, but this is absolutely spot on. Preach on!
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How many 3 & outs did they pitch after half-time? They allowed 13 points after half time. That was not good enough to win the game.

The offense stunk it up. Didn't score a point in the second half.... I'm not denying that. But the offense didn't win any games this year. The defense didn't win any games this year.

It's a team sport & they've got to work hand in hand. If the defense gives up 28 points in the first three qtrs, the offense has to score 28+ in the forth to win the game.

If the offense had packed it in & said, "Well, the defense gave up 28 points in the first three qtrs.... let's call it a day." Are we going to blame the offense for only scoring 7 points?

If they scored 21 points would we say, "The offense did their job, the defense gave up 28."

The defense played well enough to win in the first half. Can't say the same about the second half.
The Ravens scored 30 points... Out of those thirty points Schaub and our STs gift wrapped 14 points for them.. So the defense only gave up 16 points on the road.

Sorry, but regardless of what happened in the second half.. I'll take that all day long and with the talent we have on offense, we should be able to win every game if our defense only gives up 16 points.

And if our offense could've pulled their head out of their ass and took advantage of the field position supplied by our defense we could've jumped on the Ravens early and built a big lead.. thus taking the Ravens out of their game plan, thus making it even easier on our defense in the second half.

Like what has already been mentioned multiple times in this thread. The defense could've pitched a shut out and Houston still would've lost this game. The defense was not to blame for the loss on Sunday.. The offense sucked and the defense was the only reason why the Ravens didn't hang a 50 burger on us after all the gifts and points our STs and offense kept handing them.
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Short of getting a turnover and scoring themselves, nothing they could have done was "good enough to win".

Really it's just slight of hand to point fingers at the defense. We lost the game because the offense did nothing and special teams gave up points.
I'm not pointing fingers. I believe there's enough blame to go around.
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I'm not pointing fingers. I believe there's enough blame to go around.
You're right.. and if I was going to point blame at the defense, I'll sum up their performance as "they didn't win us the game, but they didn't lose the game for us either".

The STs (in Herv's words) crapped the bed "AGAIN", like they do every week and have done for a couple years now and helped lose the game.

The offense.. mainly Schaub and the offensive line crapped everywhere and lost us the game.

So if I'm going by that assessment, only one unit looked decent. Giving up only 16 points is considered a win in today's league and like I said before... I'll take that every week... except for when we play Jacksonville.

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You're right.. and if I was going to point blame at the defense, I'll sum up their performance as "they didn't win us the game, but they didn't lose the game for us either".

The STs (in Herv's words) crapped the bed "AGAIN", like they do every week and have done for a couple years now and helped lose the game.

The offense.. mainly Schaub and the offensive line crapped everywhere and lost us the game.

So if I'm going by that assessment, only one unit look decent. Giving up only 16 points is considered a win in today's league and like I said before... I'll take that every week... except for when we play Jacksonville.
Have to completely agree. Not to mention, I don't know who played or not before, but it is rather draining and frustrating when you're doing your part and another side of the ball isn't. Just think how it felt going in at halftime and as a defense you held the opposition to 3 point and a total of 65 freaking yards but you're losing? That's just ridiculous and a momentum killer for a unit of a team. Any that walked those shoes know the thoughts that go through their head during such a time.

And believe me...it isn't coach speak lol. You begin pressing and it showed in the penalties, especially the neutral zone infractions.
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The Ravens scored 30 points... Out of those thirty points Schaub and our STs gift wrapped 14 points for them.. So the defense only gave up 16 points on the road.
That's it in a nutshell.

If before the game.... Hell before any game...if you say ill guarantee the other offense only scores 16 points, would you take it?

My answer would be hell yeah.
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I know this argument is moot due to being offensively inept, but if one was to point a finger at a defensive flaw it would be allowing 13 of the 16 points after the 2 TDs. The D gave up the TD drive to open the half would've been a back breaker had our offense been able to do anything.

Overall, it was a fail. Offense sucked, ST sucked, penalties out the ying yang and a stupid TO.

*Side note: I would've seriously considered benching JJo for the taunting. I mean, seriously?!
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Default Re: Brian Cushing "They aint gonna do it"

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Originally Posted by HOU-TEX View Post
I know this argument is moot due to being offensively inept, but if one was to point a finger at a defensive flaw it would be allowing 13 of the 16 points after the 2 TDs. The D gave up the TD drive to open the half would've been a back breaker had our offense been able to do anything.

Overall, it was a fail. Offense sucked, ST sucked, penalties out the ying yang and a stupid TO.

*Side note: I would've seriously considered benching JJo for the taunting. I mean, seriously?!
I think if Schaub comes out next week and throws another horrible INT (not just any int, because they do happen.. I'm talking about one that illustrates horrible decision making like last week) Kubiak needs to park his ass on the bench. I'm not calling for him to permanently lose his job yet (although I'm almost there), but a message needs to be at least sent to him that his starting job is not just a foregone conclusion, he's not just entitled to that position, and there will be consequences for his ****ty play and bonehead decisions.


... but I don't expect Kubiak to ever do this, I don't think he has the stones.
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