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Old 09-22-2013   #101
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Whats maddening is people basing an argument using a 3rd and 15 example
oook you want a 2nd and 6, Foster left for a yard and a half, or how about a 3 and 8 and a throw for 6 yards in route. shall I keep going?

You don't see Harbaugh drawing up a middle draw on a 3rd and 15 do you, hell you don't see ANY other coach in this league drawing up a middle draw play on 3rd 15, 3rd and 10 so on and so forth. No they take shots down the field, they don't give up and try and play "field position" even though they are down 17 points....

what is maddening is fans STILL do not get what Kubiak is all about...
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I am slowly starting to turn into a Colts fan...

I really like what they are doing up there and really tired of the same ol thing here...

When the defense knows EXACTLY what you are going to run on certain downs, Suggs knowing that Kubiak was going to run a draw play on 3rd and 15 down, it is beyond maddening....
Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?
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oook you want a 2nd and 6, Foster left, or how about a 3 and 8 and a throw for 6 yards. shall I keep going?

You don't see Harbaugh drawing up a middle draw on a 3rd and 15 do you, hell you don't see ANY other coach in this league drawing up a middle draw play on 3rd 15, 3rd and 10 so on and so forth. No they take shots down the field, they don't give up and try and play "field position" even though they are down 17 points....

what is maddening is fans STILL do not get what Kubiak is all about...
Dude. When our offensive line is blocking (we have seen it in 2011), this offense is damn near unstoppable, and thats WITH Schaub. Imagine with an Oline AND a talented QB.
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Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?
San Fransico was in the super bowl last year we weren't and have never been there. We definitely have more to B about.
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The Texans could easily be 0-3 right now.

All those who didn't think the Texans made a mistake and Ozzie Newsome did make might want to rethink that.

All those who thought the Ravens Defense would be worse than last year because Lewis and Reed were gone might want to rethink that. In fact there is a lesson to be learned by Mr. Newsome, how to build your team and plan for the years ahead and not mortgage the future. 2013 is a classic case study. A lesson Ozzie himself learned in 2000.

All those that thought Colts wasted over $30 million on free agents that they signed in the off season might want to rethink that. Colts looked liked a very very good football team beating the 49ers handily today. The Colts & Andrew Luck's return to the top of the AFC South looks like it could be much sooner than many thought.
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San Fransico was in the super bowl last year we weren't and have never been there. We definitely have more to B about.
I couldn't care less what they did last year. Over on their board you have guys mad at their qb, coach and most of the guys in between. sound familiar?
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Dude. When our offensive line is blocking (we have seen it in 2011), this offense is damn near unstoppable, and thats WITH Schaub. Imagine with an Oline AND a talented QB.
Sure, and imagine a head coach with the stones to actually go out and get that talented QB and one that doesn't mix and match his Oline every other week...

Imagine all the people...cheering for the Te..ex..aanns...

You can say I am a dreamer, but I defiantly am not the only one...

I hope someday you'll join us...

And the fans will scream as one...

when Kubiak makes more stupid calls....
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Bandwagon! Go get on it.

San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?
Seattle has one of the best D in the league. The Colts D did a better job beating the 49ers and that was in SF.
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Sure, and imagine a head coach with the stones to actually go out and get that talented QB and one that doesn't mix and match his Oline every other week...

Imagine all the people...cheering for the Te..ex..aanns...

You can say I am a dreamer, but I defiantly am not the only one...

I hope someday you'll join us...

And the fans will scream as one...

when Kubiak makes more stupid calls....

A dreamer or a bandwagon?
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Seattle has one of the best D in the league. The Colts D did a better job beating the 49ers and that was in SF.
And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.
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San Francisco it looking very mediocre so far. I'm just wondering if everyone thinks their season is over as well?
I think they have to be very concerned with their offense. Don't you?

Other teams besides the Texans are having issues. Does that mean the Texans and their fans shouldn't be concerned about what is happening here? I don't know where you're going with this.
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wow you really have a knack for deflecting blame. first youre wrong, the score went as follows.
7-0/7-7/10-7/14-10/16-10/17-16 the defense gave up a td and we were down by a whopping deficit of 17-16.. smh.. 1point. is this the insurmountable deficit that the defense forced upon the offense that they "managed to get back?"

there was a stretch were the defense forced 4 straight 3 & outs, then on the 5th possession they recorded a safety, this was the 16-10 lead before they gave up a TD. (sorry ass defense right) how dare they give up a td after 5 straight possessions without even giving up a first down.. so down by 1 point, titans lead was built by a certain qb tossing a pick 6...

how can anyone objective place blame on the defense. you talk about total yards not telling the whole story when you dont even remember the whole story.. yea the defense was terrible for the first half of the chargers game. so that excuses the offense putting up 7 points?? even then the offense came back, lets not forget one td was aided by a bs call on a FG and that terrible defense helped in the comeback by pitching a shutout the rest of the way and scoring a TD to tie the game. if the offense gets a pass for only playing half the game why doesnt the defense get the same pass..

as for today, cmon now, 9 points, and you put the blame on a defense that gave up 13 points??
How can you claim to be objective and completely ignore the problems the defense has had in stopping people when they need to? KJ by himself has already subsidized at least 2 critical scoring drives in 2 different games with penalties and bad coverage.....yet i dont here you railing on him about that like you've been railing on schaub about his pick 6's.

And I can refer to "stretches" too where the offense played well in the 1st 2 games too....The fact that you have to refer to " stretches" says it all about the defense.

Furthermore, It doezn't matter how it happened or how many points they put the team behind... they gave it up and they needed the offense to go get it back...and the offense did it the 1st 2 games...they failed this week.

I'm not " deflecting" anything...there's plenty of the blame to go around.
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I think they have to be very concerned with their offense. Don't you?

Other teams besides the Texans are having issues. Does that mean the Texans and their fans shouldn't be concerned about what is happening here? I don't know where you're going with this.
I think what he meant that this is the NFL, and seasons are not made or broken in week 3.
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And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.
The Colts go to the Home of the NFC Champion and Super Bowl team and WIN handily. The Texans go to Home of AFC Champion and Super Bowl team and LOSE handily...and it's to early....hhhmmmm...if you say so.
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The Colts go to the Home of the NFC Champion and Super Bowl team and WIN handily. The Texans go to Home of AFC Champion and Super Bowl team and LOSE handily...and it's to early....hhhmmmm...if you say so.
Baltimore came to Reliant and got beat 43-13 last year. Baltimore got right and you know the rest.

Yeah. It's too early.
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And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.
The Ravens are not the same team that won the Super Bowl. We're not just talking about one game, either.

The Texans can turn this around by stop giving gift TDs to the opposition and putting the ball into the end zone. If that doesn't happen, well doom and gloom are how it will be around here.
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I'm not " deflecting" anything...
That's all you've done in any thread you were in today. At least you've been consistent.
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The Ravens are not the same team that won the Super Bowl. We're not just talking about one game, either.

The Texans can turn this around by stop giving gift TDs to the opposition and putting the ball into the end zone. If that doesn't happen, well doom and gloom are how it will be around here.
Ravens D is going to be even better this year. Was saying this all week.

And you are right, facing this front 7 w Brown out... We could ill afford to give away two tds. Playing from behind w this current Oline against that front 7 was exactly what the Ravens wanted.
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That's all you've done in any thread you were in today. At least you've been consistent.
Because i pay attention to the entire game and not just those things that reaffirm my agenda? Ok.

But you and anyone who thinks this teams issues magically go away by getting a another qb are in for a rude awakening. There are major issues on this team in addition to the qb. Good qb's have lit this defense up like a christmas tree. Thus far, i havent seen anything that tells me thats gonna be different this year.
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And a lot of people outside this board would say Houston is 2 and 1 and we just lost to the defending champions on their field. It's way to early for all this doom and gloom.
I don't believe we'll fall to 8-8 but I do think there is a chance we may not win this division and instead will have to fight for the wild card. Or said simply the division crown may not be a certain matter like the previous two years.

But in any case, I still understand the point others are making. Why shouldn't they be concerned? You point out the 49ers board but what does that have to do with what is happening with this time. They have seen their time rise higher before. They have seem basically the same personnel go to another level. What have we seen?

We can try to ignore last year but the problem with this team toward the end of the year last season is still plaguing them coming into this season. They can not play a complete game for whatever reason. That is something to be concerned about. The inconsistency in the redzone has been an issue for how long exactly? How about the issue of slow starts? So yes, folks have reason to be concerned because they are seeing the same issues they saw previously that held this team back.

On top of this what improvement are we seeing in one of our biggest issues last year in that offensive line? Newton has not shown any progress and Wade Smith is....Wade Smith. Maybe he's playing hurt but in the end that matters little since he's on the field and is expected to produce. Three straight games this line was beaten one way or another.

So again...yeah. They have reason to be concerned. And outside this board not all folks are screaming praise or that we're 2-1. They noticed the previous two games weren't pretty either. As posted in a sports group I'm in:

Are the Texans frauds or what? That showing has to be the most pathetic of all today.

Granted he retracted that statement when considering the Giants got completely dominated.
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