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Old 09-22-2013   #81
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if we go 8-8....
I'm not even thinking about that right now. It should not be on the edge of anyone's mind in the FO. If we get to 6 losses, the man in charge should be so upset that he's thinking of making a change. If we get to 7... I think a change should be made & if my HC has no idea what that change should be, or refuses to make a meaningful change, I'll step in & make the change for the last time in his Houston Texans' career.
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I'm not even thinking about that right now. It should not be on the edge of anyone's mind in the FO. If we get to 6 losses, the man in charge should be so upset that he's thinking of making a change. If we get to 7... I think a change should be made & if my HC has no idea what that change should be, or refuses to make a meaningful change, I'll step in & make the change for the last time in his Houston Texans' career.
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It's week 3. The Texans are 2-1 and at least tied for the division lead. A year ago we were 3-0. We went on to have our best regular season record ever. What did that mean? We lost in the divisional round.

The Broncos were 1-2 after the 3rd week last year. They ended the year 13-3 and had the #1 seed. They also lost in the divisonal round.

The Ravens struggled after the first month of the season. They lost by 30 on the road in week 6 (I fail to recall who against, though). They barely made it into the playoffs. They must have been one and done. I'm sure their fans were calling for people to be fired and thought they'd go 0-fer the rest of the season, too. They lost at home to Denver. Badly. They beat them on the road in the playoffs. They beat New England at home in the regular season on a questionable call and then beat them again on the road in the playoffs.

It's a long season. It doesn't matter what happens here. It doesn't matter who wins now. As long as we are playing in January we can win it all. Flacco looked a lot like Schaub for much of last year until January hit. He doesn't have the same skills as Flacco, but he can still get hot and sling it.

We don't have to have home field advantage. It means nothing (unless you have to go to Seattle). Get to the dance and get hot.

If it were only that easy.
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It's week 3. The Texans are 2-1 and at least tied for the division lead. A year ago we were 3-0. We went on to have our best regular season record ever. What did that mean? We lost in the divisional round.

The Broncos were 1-2 after the 3rd week last year. They ended the year 13-3 and had the #1 seed. They also lost in the divisonal round.

The Ravens struggled after the first month of the season. They lost by 30 on the road in week 6 (I fail to recall who against, though). They barely made it into the playoffs. They must have been one and done. I'm sure their fans were calling for people to be fired and thought they'd go 0-fer the rest of the season, too. They lost at home to Denver. Badly. They beat them on the road in the playoffs. They beat New England at home in the regular season on a questionable call and then beat them again on the road in the playoffs.

It's a long season. It doesn't matter what happens here. It doesn't matter who wins now. As long as we are playing in January we can win it all. Flacco looked a lot like Schaub for much of last year until January hit. He doesn't have the same skills as Flacco, but he can still get hot and sling it.

We don't have to have home field advantage. It means nothing (unless you have to go to Seattle). Get to the dance and get hot.

If it were only that easy.
Did the Texans barely make the playoffs last year?
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Did the Texans barely make the playoffs last year?
What do you mean barely? We'd have had to lose 2 more games than we did to be completely out. Same as you I think.
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You could see the difference in Wade Phillips defensive lay calling- Dumbledorf even saw it. The pass rush was passive when they were behind. Lots more Zone in the back end.
The gameplan was to stop the rush and make the crappy wide recievers on the Ravens make plays. The plan worked and the offense only scored 16 points. The penalties made the defense look much worse than they actually played.
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What do you mean barely? We'd have had to lose 2 more games than we did to be completely out. Same as you I think.
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The Ravens struggled after the first month of the season. They lost by 30 on the road in week 6 (I fail to recall who against, though). They barely made it into the playoffs.
because we won the Division just like you guys did.
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because we won the Division just like you guys did.
Very true. The Ravens didn't "barely" make the playoffs. They weren't playing well for the last half of a season, though. That was the point I was attempting to make. It's a long season. There are going to be bumps. They didn't appear to be a team that was destined to win a Super Bowl until they started playing the games that mattered.
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Yeah, b/c total yards tells the whole story....

There's no misdirection, there's no faucet of this team that looks ready to take the next step up to a super bowl. Rivers torched them week 1 and they made locker lok like he's a competent NFL qb....
Well, in this case they probably do...they certainly have not been dominant, but of the 82 points we've given up, 31 have come as a direct result of offense or special teams plays. I'll take our defense giving up 17 points per game any time, because with our offense we should be able to score more every single time. Also, because of offensive ineffectiveness, the D has probably had to take more chances, which has probably hurt us as well.
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It's so hard to check out, but damnit I want to.

At the moment I'm trying to decide if the next two games will be losses or embarrassing losses.
Seattle looks like a well oiled machine so far this year. The game is at home, but we still haven't showed up for a game yet this season. We're extremely fortunate to not be 0-3.

And the SF game is a road game at night on national TV so you know that will be embarrassing.

After that we have St. Louis at home and then at KC before our bye. I fully anticipate a 3-4 record going into the bye week.
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Well, in this case they probably do...they certainly have not been dominant, but of the 82 points we've given up, 31 have come as a direct result of offense or special teams plays. I'll take our defense giving up 17 points per game any time, because with our offense we should be able to score more every single time. Also, because of offensive ineffectiveness, the D has probably had to take more chances, which has probably hurt us as well.
And this is the 1st game of the year the offense has not scored 20 pts or more. The difference however is that the defense has put the offense behind the 8 ball 2 out of the 3 games. The san diego game we were down 14 at half and they promptly gave up another 7 right out the gate after half time...

The tennesse game they picked the worst time to let a bad qb go the length of the field on them and give up the lead the offense managed to get back....before the offense gave it up again that is.

Im not exonerating the offense in all this, im merely pointing out that this team is sucking really bad right now. There's nothing i can look at and say we're ok in.....cept for Nuk...he's balling.
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It's bad. It's looking like 7-9 right now.
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The tennesse game they picked the worst time to let a bad qb go the length of the field on them and give up the lead the offense managed to get back....before the offense gave it up again that is.
wow you really have a knack for deflecting blame. first youre wrong, the score went as follows.
7-0/7-7/10-7/14-10/16-10/17-16 the defense gave up a td and we were down by a whopping deficit of 17-16.. smh.. 1point. is this the insurmountable deficit that the defense forced upon the offense that they "managed to get back?"

there was a stretch were the defense forced 4 straight 3 & outs, then on the 5th possession they recorded a safety, this was the 16-10 lead before they gave up a TD. (sorry ass defense right) how dare they give up a td after 5 straight possessions without even giving up a first down.. so down by 1 point, titans lead was built by a certain qb tossing a pick 6...

how can anyone objective place blame on the defense. you talk about total yards not telling the whole story when you dont even remember the whole story.. yea the defense was terrible for the first half of the chargers game. so that excuses the offense putting up 7 points?? even then the offense came back, lets not forget one td was aided by a bs call on a FG and that terrible defense helped in the comeback by pitching a shutout the rest of the way and scoring a TD to tie the game. if the offense gets a pass for only playing half the game why doesnt the defense get the same pass..

as for today, cmon now, 9 points, and you put the blame on a defense that gave up 13 points??
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Opening with 2 fgs changed the game, if you don't put good teams away early with touchdowns, you will lose. Our redzone play calling is still pathetic.
Do we know what the first option was on the play. How do we know MS just didn't check down. I agree if the play was run as GK called then pathetic play calling and that well could be because GK plays not to lose especially early. I have also thought GK may be very limited as to what he can call in red zone because of MS ability. Matt has a very slow release and in the red zone things need to happen fast.
Whatever the reason this team is not good right now.
The Ravens changed OC just during the season maybe we need something to jump start our offense.
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I am slowly starting to turn into a Colts fan...

I really like what they are doing up there and really tired of the same ol thing here...

When the defense knows EXACTLY what you are going to run on certain downs, Suggs knowing that Kubiak was going to run a draw play on 3rd and 15 down, it is beyond maddening....
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And the SF game is a road game at night on national TV so you know that will be embarrassing.
Hopefully it'll be embarassing like last year's Bears game & we still get the W.
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I am slowly starting to turn into a Colts fan...

I really like what they are doing up there and really tired of the same ol thing here...

When the defense knows EXACTLY what you are going to run on certain downs, Suggs knowing that Kubiak was going to run a draw play on 3rd and 15 down, it is beyond maddening....
Whats maddening is people basing an argument using a 3rd and 15 example
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It's week 3. The Texans are 2-1 and at least tied for the division lead. A year ago we were 3-0. We went on to have our best regular season record ever. What did that mean? We lost in the divisional round.

The Broncos were 1-2 after the 3rd week last year. They ended the year 13-3 and had the #1 seed. They also lost in the divisonal round.

The Ravens struggled after the first month of the season. They lost by 30 on the road in week 6 (I fail to recall who against, though). They barely made it into the playoffs. They must have been one and done. I'm sure their fans were calling for people to be fired and thought they'd go 0-fer the rest of the season, too. They lost at home to Denver. Badly. They beat them on the road in the playoffs. They beat New England at home in the regular season on a questionable call and then beat them again on the road in the playoffs.

It's a long season. It doesn't matter what happens here. It doesn't matter who wins now. As long as we are playing in January we can win it all. Flacco looked a lot like Schaub for much of last year until January hit. He doesn't have the same skills as Flacco, but he can still get hot and sling it.

We don't have to have home field advantage. It means nothing (unless you have to go to Seattle). Get to the dance and get hot.

If it were only that easy.
Flacco has never played like Matt Schaub. Flacco has the deep ball other qb's can run. Schaub has no special intangible in his game that gives you any hope. He's totally dependent on the system and that system has to run perfect for you to see Matt Schaub play at his best... that's simply not going to happen and it is stupid on the texans part to expect it to. They need to stop doing things the boneheaded way and accept Schaub for what he is then bench him.
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