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Old 09-22-2013   #21
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Default Re: This is an 8-8 or worse Texan team

I'm worried about everything listed in the OP but I don't know if that means 8-8. Our OLine, Secondary and QB ARE playing poorly. After we lose the next two the schedule gets a LOT easier.
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Average qb and average hc = 8-8. Its that simple fellas. Next up sea and sf.
Our average QB is frankly the only reason we're 2-0 right now, IMO. How about placing the blame on the unit with that looks like swiss cheese.The OL. They look like the 2003 Texans out there.
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Baltimore isn't even very good. Their passing game isn't much to deal with, yet they've been effective without much of a running game.

We still have the NFC West, the Pats, the Broncos, and the Colts twice to deal with.
Defense has only given up 13 points so far. They've been on the field all day. Offense has not scored a TD. They've given up one. And after a three and out the punt team gave one up.
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Why do I keep seeing the words 2010 in my dreams? This is 2010 all over again. A couple of good and somewhat lucky comeback wins make everyone feel better than they should. Eventually the emperor has no clothes.

Our passing game stinks. We don't air it out until we have too. It's all underneath stuff, and that is what led to the int. I mean, he looked at the film. Those little 3-5 yard routes are the vast majority of Schaub's game until he is forced to do otherwise. So once again for the 3rd game in a row, Schaub makes one or more huge mistakes that turn the tide of the game. I've about had it with this guy.

Our pass pro is average at best, and that's with D Brown. Harris hasn't been that bad today. The RT stinks. How many times on 3rd and long can Kubiak call a draw? Sheeat. This team just goes into a shell.

Joe M's unit is still as bad as ever. Another game changing play. Those two plays were the game. Period.

D didn't play bad at all overall, but enough with the offsides. Jeesbus. Also, at key moments, they let the Ravens convert, with penalties playing a big role.

This team is staring 2-3 in the face. If the Ravens did it to us, the 49ers and Seahawks surely will.

I hate to agree with the OP, but right now this team looks very, very, average. 8 or 9 wins looks about right.
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I have never seen a team more overrated by the media and its fans than this Texan team.

Comebacks aren't anything to hang your hat on when you have to do it week after week.

We are trailing in the fourth quarter and still throwing the ball behind the sticks.

Schaub the statue has just been sacked as I type this.

What a joke on Texan fans.

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This is not a knee-jerk reaction.

Our RT is terrible and we have no replacement for him. When Duane Brown doesn't play, our LT is terrible. Our QB is below average and has no natural ability to make something out of nothing, which is required with poor tackle play. Our pass defense is going to get exposed by good passing teams.

We'll be lucky if we go .500. We are extremely lucky to be 2-0 and not 0-2 given the way we've played thus far. There is no indication that this team will be getting better as the season progresses, actually quite the contrary as injuries happen.

Honestly can't disagree with you. I haven't seen us look this bad since 2010 or maybe even before.
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Default Re: This is an 8-8 or worse Texan team

I have 0 faith in Schaub to make plays.

He's just not that guy. He's thrown basically three picks that directly lead to scores in every game this season. Too many lulls in offensive production. The OLine is bad. The Running game is average. Defense is up and down. Texans could very easily be 0-3 right now.

Texans need a spark. They have yet to put together a game yet where you go, "ok...now that is a good team". They've had moments, but I'm not jazzed about our prospects.

When that guy wrote that article a while back I said I could see 8-8. But I figured 10-6 was more likely. I'll stick with that. 8-8 wouldn't shock me at all.
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I realize they attempted to address RT with a third round pick this past off season but if they keep running Newton out there for much longer I will lose what little remaining faith I have in Kubiak.
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Default Re: This is an 8-8 or worse Texan team

This year is having a 2010 feel to it so far. The Texans MUST play better than they have so far this year if they want to beat the Seahawks, 49ers and Chiefs, to say nothing about the teams after the bye.
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Concerned about the OL and the defensive backfield. Both are playing poorly so far.

Rest of the team seems to be ok.
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Average qb and average hc = 8-8. Its that simple fellas. Next up sea and sf.
Except last year they were 12-4 & the year before that they were 10-6.

You win some, you lose some. Not the end of the world. A lot of you had them losing this game anyway.
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Basically, w out Brown this team is avg at best. W out our best Olineman our avg line becomes immediately BAD. And Schaub is not able to carry this offense behind a bad line, nor w a good one, but we can still get in the playoffs w an avg O line.
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It's so hard to check out, but damnit I want to.

At the moment I'm trying to decide if the next two games will be losses or embarrassing losses.
Admit it. You love us.
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It's so hard to check out, but damnit I want to.

At the moment I'm trying to decide if the next two games will be losses or embarrassing losses.
Embarrassing.
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Honestly, the most excited I was as a Texan fan was the season Yates took over. I feel like the excitement has been draining ever since that season. It wasn't because we played great football. It was because we reached our peak but I thought the future was bright.

I can't see Schaub winning a SupeR Bowl. I agree with Derrick Ward. Schaub doesn't inspire confidence. He doesn't have a spark to him. And it seems like his best games usually come when we dig ourselves in a hole against inexperienced teams. When we dig ourselves in a hole against more seasoned teams they step on our necks.

We need a new direction. This current flavor has peaked.
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Our average QB is frankly the only reason we're 2-0 right now, IMO. How about placing the blame on the unit with that looks like swiss cheese.The OL. They look like the 2003 Texans out there.
Your average qb gets sea and sf D next.
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Your average qb gets sea and sf D next.
Teams who've made much better qb's look silly....
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Honestly, the most excited I was as a Texan fan was the season Yates took over. I feel like the excitement has been draining ever since that season. It wasn't because we played great football. It was because we reached our peak but I thought the future was bright.

I can't see Schaub winning a SupeR Bowl. I agree with Derrick Ward. Schaub doesn't inspire confidence. He doesn't have a spark to him. And it seems like his best games usually come when we dig ourselves in a hole against inexperienced teams. When we dig ourselves in a hole against more seasoned teams they step on our necks.

We need a new direction. This current flavor has peaked.
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I have never seen a team more overrated by the media and its fans than this Texan team.

Comebacks aren't anything to hang your hat on when you have to do it week after week.

We are trailing in the fourth quarter and still throwing the ball behind the sticks.

Schaub the statue has just been sacked as I type this.

What a joke on Texan fans.



I have been saying that all off season we have just lost too much in free agency the past 2 off seasons. This is not the same team it was in 2011.
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Defense has only given up 13 points so far. They've been on the field all day. Offense has not scored a TD. They've given up one. And after a three and out the punt team gave one up.
All they needed to do was secure first downs and get into field goal range in order to close out the game. Baltimore did that with a below average passing attack.
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