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Old 09-19-2013   #21
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He doesn't remind me of any of those guys.

He doesn't look as fast as any of them. He's not beating anybody on his routes. & he's not breaking ankles or anything. So far, he looks like a WR2, an average one. Not Reggie Wayne to Marvin Harrison, not Torry Holt to Isaac Bruce., not Julio Jones to Roddy White.
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He doesn't remind me of any of those guys.

He doesn't look as fast as any of them. He's not beating anybody on his routes. & he's not breaking ankles or anything. So far, he looks like a WR2, an average one. Not Reggie Wayne to Marvin Harrison, not Torry Holt to Isaac Bruce., not Julio Jones to Roddy White.
okay debbie downer, because WRs who are on pace for a 1,000 + receiving season in their rookie year are only destined to be average #2 receivers and aren't "beating anyone".

Maybe if he played for Denver you'd have a higher opinion of him...
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okay debbie downer, because WRs who are on pace for a 1,000 + receiving season in their rookie year are only destined to be average #2 receivers and aren't "beating anyone".

Maybe if he played for Denver you'd have a higher opinion of him...
If we were looking for a small forward, I'd be thrilled. If we're talking about the long haul... we've seen nothing to suggest he's on pace for 1000 yards unless you think we're going to keep throwing jump balls to him all day.

But yes, if he looked like Demarius or Julius Thomas...... I'd have a higher opinion of him... even that Wes guy.
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If we were looking for a small forward, I'd be thrilled. If we're talking about the long haul... we've seen nothing to suggest he's on pace for 1000 yards unless you think we're going to keep throwing jump balls to him all day.

But yes, if he looked like Demarius or Julius Thomas...... I'd have a higher opinion of him... even that Wes guy.
So you think all we have done is throw jump balls to him and he isn't beating anybody with his route running? For someone who is so slow (and a 4.5 is not slow) who can't beat defenders with his routes he sure as hell finds a way to get open a lot down the field.
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I'm in no way saying he is as good, or that he will ever be (we can hope though). To me his game resembles Cris Carter, its based on making catches and precise routes. You don't have to run a sub 4.4 to be special, and he can be special.
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So you think all we have done is throw jump balls to him and he isn't beating anybody with his route running? For someone who is so slow (and a 4.5 is not slow) who can't beat defenders with his routes he sure as hell finds a way to get open a lot down the field.

& I must be missing it, 'cause I can't remember. I know he had a crossing route he turned into a 21 yard gainer... but nothing else I can think of as a memorable play.

I thought I saw his 40 as a 4.41, he just doesn't look that fast. When KeShawn shook that defender & sprinted up field..... that looked fast (4.34).

He's having a great year, don't get me wrong. I'm just not seeing the fundamentals that you see in Megatron, Andre, Fitz..... all the good ones. He doesn't remind me of any of them.
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Because they pass it to the man... and boom goes the dynamite.
It's not Nuke, it's Nuk - like the baby pacifier.

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It's not Nuke, it's Nuk - like the baby pacifier.

I know.. I was trying to make a joke referencing the worst sports reporter in the history of the world. In case you haven't seen it google "boom goes the dynamite"
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He doesn't remind me of any of those guys.

He doesn't look as fast as any of them. He's not beating anybody on his routes. & he's not breaking ankles or anything. So far, he looks like a WR2, an average one. Not Reggie Wayne to Marvin Harrison, not Torry Holt to Isaac Bruce., not Julio Jones to Roddy White.
Wow, seriously? an average WR2? I'm not an extreme homer, but the guy has "it" for sure. Some of the best hands I've ever seen on a football field combined with superior body control. No he isn't the fastest, but give me an average speed guy with Hopkins ball skills and body control over an inconsistent burner any day. And do keep in mind that as he matures, his route running will very likely improve providing more separation.
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If we were looking for a small forward, I'd be thrilled. If we're talking about the long haul... we've seen nothing to suggest he's on pace for 1000 yards unless you think we're going to keep throwing jump balls to him all day.

But yes, if he looked like Demarius or Julius Thomas...... I'd have a higher opinion of him... even that Wes guy.
You need to read the Hopkins half of this.

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Wow, seriously? an average WR2? I'm not an extreme homer, but the guy has "it" for sure. Some of the best hands I've ever seen on a football field combined with superior body control. No he isn't the fastest, but give me an average speed guy with Hopkins ball skills and body control over an inconsistent burner any day. And do keep in mind that as he matures, his route running will very likely improve providing more separation.
Hopkins doesn't have the long speed to be in the elite category of guys who can literally take the top off of a defense, but he has size, will be an excellent blocker and obviously has great hands. His route running will get better as he learns how to get off the line cleaner. Everything else is just good ol' bizkit's-n-mustard hand-wringing.
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He doesn't remind me of any of those guys.

He doesn't look as fast as any of them. He's not beating anybody on his routes. & he's not breaking ankles or anything. So far, he looks like a WR2, an average one. Not Reggie Wayne to Marvin Harrison, not Torry Holt to Isaac Bruce., not Julio Jones to Roddy White.
Do you remember Demarius Thomas first year? 22 catches for 283 yards and 2 TDs. Second year? 32 catches, 551 yds, 4 TDs. Dez Bryant? 45 receptions, 561 yds, 6 TDs.

A rookie WR is not supposed to get open every time or outrun NFL competition. The question is: can he get the job done when the ball is passed to him.

Perhaps Nuk won`t be a WR that just outruns his competition - perhaps he will just be one with great route running and catching ability. And that`s ok - as a matter of fact that`s just what we need: a WR that can get us first downs when Andre is covered and that can catch the ball in the endzone. So far he is the best looking rookie WR!
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Hands, body control, route tree, and "glide" recall Larry Fitzgerald for me.

I truthfully don't see many other WRs that "look" like DeAndre -- he a little different.
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I think it would be cool during home games the crowd chants out "Nuuuuuuk!" anytime he gets a reception.
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I think it would be cool during home games the crowd chants out "Nuuuuuuk!" anytime he gets a reception.
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We do it at my house.
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A rookie WR is not supposed to get open every time or outrun NFL competition. The question is: can he get the job done when the ball is passed to him.
I'm not the one comparing him to the better receivers of our time.

Maybe I shouldn't have said he looked like an average #2, he may very well turn into something special, I don't know.

He's got great hands & body control similar to some of the great ones..... but we're not going to design an offense of jump balls. I don't think anyway.

He's going to have to get open quickly on a more consistent basis.
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