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Old 09-19-2013   #81
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I worry anytime a division rival gets a RB of this caliber, but at the end of the day it cost them a round 1 draft pick. A DeAndre Hopkins, A Duane Brown, a Brian Cushing. And we sit here with Arian Foster and Ben Tate for a combined 2nd round pick.
I get what you're saying, but with the Colts hoping to be picking in the late 20's early 30's getting a player as good as Richardson is unlikely. Downside for Colts is that this move probably wont land them in the SB.
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And this is what class looks like, Lombardi:

Richardson told WOIO-TV,
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I get what you're saying, but with the Colts hoping to be picking in the late 20's early 30's getting a player as good as Richardson is unlikely. Downside for Colts is that this move probably wont land them in the SB.
Running backs are a dime a dozen, especially these days when the NFL is becoming more and more pass oriented. Of course before I'd congratulate the Browns on a smart trade, I'd have to ask them what the hell were they thinking when they used the #3 overall in the 2012 Draft on this guy ?
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It will be ok. We play in a division where we face Chris Johnson and Maurice Jones-Drew twice a year. We somehow manage to survive that and Richardson scares me no more than either of those guys.
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Interesting angle on this listening to Cleveland sportswriters podcast...

What's the best way for Lombardi & company to buy themselves 3 years of job security suckling at the money teet of owner Jimmy Haslam... ? Throw in all your cards and start a rebuild again.
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It will be ok. We play in a division where we face Chris Johnson and Maurice Jones-Drew twice a year. We somehow manage to survive that and Richardson scares me no more than either of those guys.
And Jones-Drew didn't look so hot coming off his Lisfranc (not surprising, especially since it was a very delayed, conservative treatment failure surgery), even before this recent ankle injury, so I'm not so sure how much of a factor he plays this year.
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PFF's fantasy take on TR is interesting...
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In Cleveland, Richardson was a talented back that was held back by the players around him. In 2012 he averaged 3.6 yards per carry and that was down to 3.4 early in 2013. On the plus side, heís forced 14 missed tackles on him, which is tied for the best in the league so far.

One of Richardsonís biggest problems has been facing eight defensive players in the box too often. By defining players in the box as all defensive linemen, linebackers and safeties within eight yards of the line of scrimmage, Richardson faced eight or more men on the box on 52.6 percent of his carries. On those carries, he averaged just 3.2 yards per carry. When it was seven or fewer in the box, that was up to 3.9 yards per carry. With Andrew Luck at quarterback, teams canít put eight in the box to stop Richardson as often as they used to.

In Indianapolis, the Colts have used 11 personnel (aka three receiver sets) on 46.2 percent of their offensive plays. This should only go up with Dwayne Allen landing on injured reserve. Teams typically respond to three receiver sets with a nickel defense (only six men in the box). Richardson has had 42 carries in those situations, and has averaged 4.8 yards per carry.

In Indianapolis he should get a similar number of opportunities. He will be used as a feature back, but will get taken out in some passing situations. Richardson has allowed five pressures this year which is the most for all running backs. Ahmad Bradshaw, meanwhile, is one of the best pass blocking backs in the league. This will prevent Richardson playing 80 percent or more of the teams snaps, but he will still get most of the carries.
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Bradshaw and Richardson should be a great 1-2 punch. I wasn't worried about the Colt running game much, but now they have something that at least looks great on paper.
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It will be ok. We play in a division where we face Chris Johnson and Maurice Jones-Drew twice a year. We somehow manage to survive that and Richardson scares me no more than either of those guys.
Gabbert + MJD < Locker + CJ < Luck + Richardson/Bradshaw
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All I will say is that this about as obvious an attempt at a "we need to suck worse than jax" move to position themselves for Manziel or Clowney I think I have ever seen.

I have no idea how Browns fans do it. I wouldn't buy a ticket to their product, but they keep showing up, god bless em.
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All I will say is that this about as obvious an attempt at a "we need to suck worse than jax" move to position themselves for Manziel or Clowney I think I have ever seen.

I have no idea how Browns fans do it. I wouldn't buy a ticket to their product, but they keep showing up, god bless em.
Have you ever been to Cleveland? What the hell else is there to do but be a Browns fan. For better or for worse.

I agree with your statement though. Suck for Clowney just doesn't have the same ring though, does it?
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I see this as helping Texans as it takes a first away from Colts. I doubt Richardson helps much and even less as he continues to get banged. He could be better. He could be worse.
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All I will say is that this about as obvious an attempt at a "we need to suck worse than jax" move to position themselves for Manziel or Clowney I think I have ever seen.

I have no idea how Browns fans do it. I wouldn't buy a ticket to their product, but they keep showing up, god bless em.
I wouldn't have thought the Browns would be hurt so bad by losing Trent Richardson. I do believe the Colts are much better with Richardson but the teams are in two totally different spots.

I thought they would be fighting for a Wild Card spot this year. Now, trading Richardson & their QB change, I'm thinking you're more right than I am, but I'd like to see Hoyer before I say it.

Saying that I think they'll be fighting for a wild card doesn't mean I think they're great. I think the Steelers are in big trouble & I'm not high on Baltimore either. I've got Cincy winning the North. Texans winning the South, New England winning the East, & Denver winning the West.

Miami, KC, Indy, Cleveland, & Baltimore fighting for 2 spots.
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Have you ever been to Cleveland? What the hell else is there to do but be a Browns fan. For better or for worse.

I agree with your statement though. Suck for Clowney just doesn't have the same ring though, does it?
I call it "clown for clowney."
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clownin for clowney. I like it.
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Gabbert + MJD < Locker + CJ < Luck + Richardson/Bradshaw

Sure, I'd agree with that. Regardless I'm not ready to just concede the division to the Colts. The sum isn't always greater than the pieces. There's more to having an awesome running game than just having a great back (and that's not to say that Richardson is indeed a "great" back).

Lets play and then decide how worried we should be.
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Gabbert + MJD < Locker + CJ < Luck + Richardson/Bradshaw

Sure, I'd agree with that. Regardless I'm not ready to just concede the division to the Colts. The sum isn't always greater than the pieces. There's more to having an awesome running game than just having a great back (and that's not to say that Richardson is indeed a "great" back).

Lets play and then decide how worried we should be.
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I hate anything that makes the Colts better and I'm afraid they just got better. I'd be pleased as hell if Trent comes in and he's crap but... I'll believe it when I see it.
This is where I am, too. Smart move by the Colts.
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