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Old 09-18-2013   #61
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It's Manning. Simple as that.
This should end this thread.
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This should end this thread.
There's been a lot of good football conversation in this thread that goes beyond the "It's Peyton" stuff.
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Does anyone want to change their opinion based on the fact that the Broncos lost their All-Pro OT for the year?

I wonder what happens if Peyton takes a nasty blindside hit? I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he may play a little (for lack of a better word) scared without Clady.
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Does anyone want to change their opinion based on the fact that the Broncos lost their All-Pro OT for the year?

I wonder what happens if Peyton takes a nasty blindside hit? I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he may play a little (for lack of a better word) scared without Clady.
This is a HUGE loss. Equivalent to us losing Duane for the season.
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Peyton will make it work..He may be a little less comfy back there, but i don't think its going to effect him or them as a team very much. Taking everything into consideration, Losing Clady probably knocks 1-2 pts off of what they've been scoring this year...not a big deal imo.

but......

when you consider that their defense is still missing Miller & Bailey, those 1-2 pts can easily be gained back when those guys come back.
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Here's ESPN's Power Rankings.


For comparison purposes,

We beat 16 & 22
The Broncos beat 11 & 20
The Ravens lost to 2 & beat 31
I see your ESPN rankings and "call" you with CBS's Prisco's Power Rankings

We beat #17 (SD) and #19 (Tenn.)
The Broncos beat #15 (Ravens) and #22 (Giants).

Now I'll raise you with Kirwin's CBS Power Rankings
We beat #15 (SD) and #18 (Tenn.)
The Broncos beat #17 (Ravens) and #22 (Giants)

Depending on which list you wanna believe, our wins were against higher (or at least equal) caliber teams.


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Man.... I remember a time when we'd look at power rankings and rejoice because we were up in the twenties...
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Gee whizz. With 14 games left for every team to play I'm sure we can just give up on the Texans now because The Great Forehead still breathes.

**** Manning. I hope we crush him into tiny bits of dust when he comes to Reliant. Then we can hang replicas of his forehead in all the urinals.
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Here's ESPN's Power Rankings.


For comparison purposes,

We beat 16 & 22
The Broncos beat 11 & 20
The Ravens lost to 2 & beat 31
The rankings aren't going to tell us anything at this point in the season. The Chargers and Titans weren't ranked high on anyone's list before the season started and they're both only 1-1 right now. The Ravens will be ranked a bit higher than they should because it's early in the season and they won the Super Bowl last year. The Giants are 0-2 and with another loss against Carolina (not predicting it) could fall even further in the rankings.
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Depending on which list you wanna believe, our wins were against higher (or at least equal) caliber teams.
If our opponents are better, they're not that much better. Roughly equal teams, Denver with all their issues look better than we do with no issues.

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keep it up... I like this game
People might say they don't care for power rankings, or that power rankings don't mean anything.... then they turn around & say, "We barely beat the Titans!" insinuating what the power rankings quantify.

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Man.... I remember a time when we'd look at power rankings and rejoice because we were up in the twenties...
The good ole days... when every game was the most important in team history.
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Dammit why are we not the 1985 Bears!? We have 11 guys on defense!

Season is over
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If our opponents are better, they're not that much better. Roughly equal teams, Denver with all their issues look better than we do with no issues.
no issues?
NO ISSUES?!?
Whaddaymean "no issues"...??

- the Right side of our O-line still isn't up to snuff.
- our LT has turf toe and plays like he lost 50 lbs instead of just 5
- everyone wanted our starting FS (Keo) cut before the season started
- the guy who should be starting in his place has a walker and is suspected to be a member of AARP
- our kicker has issues... not sure if they're technique-related or in his head but he has issues
- Antonio Smiff is overpaid and should have been traded
- our OLBs can't get any freakin' pressure on opposing QBs
- the defensive backfield can't cover anybody (am I the only one who noticed that our one and ONLY INT has come from a LB)
- Our QB is Matt "noodle-arm/check down/fetal position/never-audible/slower-than-continental drift" Schaub


...did I mention Bob McNair is cheap?

...no issues
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It's mainly Manning and Elway. (Better leadership)

The Broncos are 2-0 without Miller/Bailey

Can you imagine the Texans being 2-0 without Watt/Cushing?
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Gee whizz. With 14 games left for every team to play I'm sure we can just give up on the Texans now because The Great Forehead still breathes.

**** Manning. I hope we crush him into tiny bits of dust when he comes to Reliant. Then we can hang replicas of his forehead in all the urinals.
Agreed. Contrary to popular belief, a 37 year old Peyton Manning behind a damaged o-line is not the scariest thing in the NFL at the moment. He's having a good season, but we are #4 in total defense and the Giants and Ravens are #20 and 22# respectively.
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Its WEEK 2 people. I don't understand this thread. Teams like the titans, chargers, and chefs have all improved. Colts picked up T Richardson. We play the NFC West (toughest division) and Pats/Broncos.

If people are not preparing themselves for one hell of a tough season ahead, then they are doing themselves a disservice.

Injuries are going to keep piling up for everyone. Not even the Broncos are safe right now. And who the hell knows who will be in form (Ravens 12), come playoff time?

Can't we just worry about the Ravens already? This game is FAR from a gimme even with Duane Brown and we need to be 3-0 heading into Hawks and 9ers.
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this has been a problems for many years from my seat


Also as it has been overstated now Manning > Schaub
And we haven't broken tradition this season thus far.
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Default Re: We don't look as good as the Broncos

Does anyone recognize that Manning, in the playoffs, is a lot like the Texans on offense (historically)? Great between the twenty's (getting to the playoffs) but not great at sealing the deal (1 SB win in how many attempts, not to mention HFA throughout)?
As another member posted, Manning is very, very good at beating a weak sister. He doesn't fare as well against elite opponents, especially in the post season.

There's more to a team than who plays QB. Since Peyton joined the league, six teams have won the Super Bowl without an elite QB. I don't count Eli Manning (twice), Big Ben (twice), or Trent Dilfer as elite QB's. Manning was the beneficiary of two incredible catches and a butt ton of luck, Big Ben had the vaunted Steelers defenses and Trent Dilfer just had to manage to keep from screwing the pooch and not fumble the game away or throw a stupid pick (something I can see Schaub doing all to easily in the big game).

That doesn't include all of the particular big breaks a Super Bowl winning team got, regardless of the QB, just to get to the big game.

The Texans look fine. They have some issues, but all teams do. The Broncos are 2-0 against 0-2 teams. The Texans are 2-0 against 1-1 teams. If the Chargers and tAcks played the Giants, Browns, Ravens and Eagles in weeks 1 and 2 they'd be, at worst, 3-1 combined. The Eagles might be a surprise this year.

Every team is different every year.
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Does anyone recognize that Manning, in the playoffs, is a lot like the Texans on offense (historically)? Great between the twenty's (getting to the playoffs) but not great at sealing the deal (1 SB win in how many attempts, not to mention HFA throughout)?
As another member posted, Manning is very, very good at beating a weak sister. He doesn't fare as well against elite opponents, especially in the post season.

There's more to a team than who plays QB. Since Peyton joined the league, six teams have won the Super Bowl without an elite QB. I don't count Eli Manning (twice), Big Ben (twice), or Trent Dilfer as elite QB's. Manning was the beneficiary of two incredible catches and a butt ton of luck, Big Ben had the vaunted Steelers defenses and Trent Dilfer just had to manage to keep from screwing the pooch and not fumble the game away or throw a stupid pick (something I can see Schaub doing all to easily in the big game).

That doesn't include all of the particular big breaks a Super Bowl winning team got, regardless of the QB, just to get to the big game.

The Texans look fine. They have some issues, but all teams do. The Broncos are 2-0 against 0-2 teams. The Texans are 2-0 against 1-1 teams. If the Chargers and tAcks played the Giants, Browns, Ravens and Eagles in weeks 1 and 2 they'd be, at worst, 3-1 combined. The Eagles might be a surprise this year.

Every team is different every year.
Yeah, people for some reason like to ignore Manning's playoff woes. For all of the flack that Favre gets for INT's in the post season, Manning has had a ton of them as well in the same fashion, yet you never hear people talk about it for some reason. The guy has lost the majority of his playoff games to INT's that he threw at the end of games.

He is still Manning though, and I still think he can be dangerous in the post season especially with a loaded team that he currently has.
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