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Old 08-26-2013   #81
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Where would you have the kicker going for if it wasnt the back of the endzone?
I want longer hamg time & I'd like the ball to drop 4-6 yards inside the goal line. I want them to attempt a return, hoping to pin them inside the ten.

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I want longer hamg time & I'd like the ball to drop 4-6 yards inside the goal line. I want them to attempt a return, hoping to pin them inside the ten.

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Well, that's the old-school way, but between injuries and the possibility of pinning it inside OUR 10, I'd prefer the kicker to just aim for the 3rd row through the uprights.
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I want longer hamg time & I'd like the ball to drop 4-6 yards inside the goal line. I want them to attempt a return, hoping to pin them inside the ten.

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Id rather not take the chance on our special teams. Odds are we arent pinning anyone in
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Average kick return last year in the NFL was over 20 yards. Can't imagine wanting anything but a touchback.
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Average kick return last year in the NFL was over 20 yards. Can't imagine wanting anything but a touchback.
I am in favor of going for touchbacks but a 20 yd return doesn't mean they got to the 20 yard line. That could be the 14 yd line if they started 6 yds deep.
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I am in favor of going for touchbacks but a 20 yd return doesn't mean they got to the 20 yard line. That could be the 14 yd line if they started 6 yds deep.
Yep, I almost elaborated....risk/reward for < 10 yard best case average field position gain isn't worth it (assuming starting at the end line).
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Personally, I didn't like the kickoffs. Very low, no hangtime.

If he's going for the back of the endzone.... fine. But I wouldn't have him going for the back of the endzone.
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I want longer hamg time & I'd like the ball to drop 4-6 yards inside the goal line. I want them to attempt a return, hoping to pin them inside the ten.
I'd venture to say that puts you at odds with pretty much all the NFL coaches out there. Sure, it's a perfect world scenario. Unfortunately, it doesn't match the skill-set of our coverage team very well.
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Well, he's no Greg "Legatron" Zuerlein, but then who is? As CND said, very promising. Let's see it when it counts.

One question because my memory sucks. Does his attempts always shade to the right or was that just the way it happened today? After both of those kicks I suddenly realized I was sitting down horizontally on my left side....lol.
Zuerlein might have a stronger leg but he was just over 50% in the 2nd half of last season in FG%. I'd rather have the accurate guy. I don't know if it is Bullock until he sees big boy games, though.
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I want longer hamg time & I'd like the ball to drop 4-6 yards inside the goal line. I want them to attempt a return, hoping to pin them inside the ten.

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Marciano's ST schemes would still let them return it to the 35. I'd rather make them start at the 20 each time. I don't trust our kick coverage. If there is too much hang time and all the coverage guys are already closing in all it will take is the usual 1 missed tackle and there will be nothing but green grass ahead.
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No way in hell do I want Bullock purposely kicking it in the field of play - at any height. WAY WAY too much chance of a long return or TD. Just because it's kicked high and Texans are in the neighborhood doesn't automatically mean the guy is immediately tackled. I don't understand this line of thinking at all.

Definitely not even close to the risk/reward ratio I would be comfy with.

I'm much more Pro Bullock then some in here, especially Doc. I mean that 55 yarder might have been good from 65 or longer. That kick was ridiculous. His kickoffs have been good...and getting better. So much for this notion of a limpy legged Aggie.
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I'd also like better special teams play along with higher kicks.
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I have to admit, Ive liked Randy Bullock from the get-go simply because of his measurables. Hes a kicker that is 59 and 208lbs. That is a vaguely ridiculous shape for a kicker, but that brick-like build obviously serves him well judging by this outing in which he both drilled field goals and hoofed kickoffs out of the end zone. He was 3-for-3 on scoring attempts, including from 55 yards and another from over 40.

He nailed a touchback on four of his five kickoffs and averaged 8.6 yards into the end zone. Bullock certainly seems to have a leg, and so far it looks pretty accurate.
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They'd better have about 23 guys trying out this Tuesday because Bullock doesn't appear to be the answer....
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Maybe.

I'd give him more than two games. If it's not fixed going into the 2nd half of the season then I'd start looking around.

The positive is he HAS the leg for those 50 yard kicks, and he must be drilling them in practice for Kubiak (a usually conservative coach) to continue to trust him as he does. Hopefully it's just a nerves thing that he can get over.

Lets not be too quick about this, like we were with Holliday.(sp?) he really sucked out there but it's his 2nd game.
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I expected to see this thread bumped due to what happened in the game.

I wasn't worried at the start of the season, because Bullock was making kicks in the PS, but I am now concerning due to today's game. Hoping Bullock turns it around.
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I don't agree with wonger about much but he's right - we should have every available kicker in on Tuesday. I wanted us to draft Bullock. I'm rooting for him. He has failed so far though. We are shooting for the Super Bowl. We can't afford to not have a backup plan.
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They'd better have about 23 guys trying out this Tuesday because Bullock doesn't appear to be the answer....
I think it`s all mental with him... can that be fixed? Maybe... maybe here, maybe he would need a clean start with another team. We have 3 really tough games coming up and we need a kicker that we can trust.

I would monitor him closely - a lot of pressure on this young kid now. How does he handle it? If he crumbles, invite some veterans! If he keeps his head up high and makes his kicks in practice, give him another game.
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Wasn't one of the positives with Bullock is that he was supposedly unflappable and didn't get nervous? There's three kickers that were drafted when he was who are doing things in the NFL and aren't sucking horribly like the fat Aggie.
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What's to think about? We are talking about a Kicker here, we've had a different one every year for the last 4 years without hurting the teams progress. I'm not sure what we risk by cutting him and hiring someone else.
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