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Old 08-12-2013   #121
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I agree with those who saw something good out of Yates.
I saw some improvements.
I agree with deuce that he looked a bit too mechanical.
But he did make some nice throw on the bootleg.

Yates seems to me somewhat the equivalent of Schaub.
Neither of them acre very good in the presnap read nor the postsnap read.
They don't recognize the defense as readily at their respective early stage of their career.

Remember how Schaub used to take a sack beyond the 3-Sec mark that some of us complained about?
Schaub was like Yates when he first got here, and he only improved marginally in this department in 07.
But he got better at it each year.

There are two types of general; one that leads a battle; the other commands the whole war.

The latter one has a vision of the overall strategy, his side as well his opponents'.
The other ones are good at certain tactics to carry out the objective; but are not quite adept at counteracting when the opponents shift their plans.

As a general, Napoleon Bonaparte didn't strike fear into any one with his less than imposing 5'7 figure, but he imposed his command a thousand times better than others who stood 6'3 or even taller.

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And given Swearington is "just" a safety and basically a box-safety at that, we went way too far in expending a second round pick on him. I think he's a poor-mans Bernard Pollard, but smaller. He's got a mouth like Bernard but unlike Bernard he don't tackle so well. Very disappointing debut for Swearington and I don't understand the pick ?
Actually, Swearinger was known for good tackling in college, just saying.
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I'd like to add throwing short of the marker too. IIRC, all 3 QBs had one. Is this the play call? I can understand if there's nowhere else to go after going through their progressions, but they don't even seem like they're going through progressions. Maybe it's a pre-snap read?

Maybe I have tunnel vision when it comes to this, but I don't remember seeing any other teams do this as much as we do.
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I'd like to add throwing short of the marker too. IIRC, all 3 QBs had one. Is this the play call? I can understand if there's nowhere else to go after going through their progressions, but they don't even seem like they're going through progressions. Maybe it's a pre-snap read?

Maybe I have tunnel vision when it comes to this, but I don't remember seeing any other teams do this as much as we do.
I would say that the Texans have been below par in this department.
When I studied the situation using the Playfinder feature at ProFootballReference.com, that was what I noticed.

I didn't go in depth, just enough to estimate that Kubiak probably ranks around 10th in the conservative mark.
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No particular order. I'll say up front I don't feel qualified to talk about the o-line. I would need to go back and isolate better. I was really trying to watch the skill guys and the QB's.

The Good

Earl Mitchell - Man what a game. He was wrecking shop. Need to see him do it all preseason before I get ahead of myself, but dude was a beast against their 1st team. Imagine a DL of Watt, Mitchell, and A Smith all playing at their best.

Terrell McClain - Slightly tempered by level of comp - but when a guy is a beast among boys, it is what it is. Mitchell/McClain could be a deadly duo at NT.

Willie Jefferson - Ok the kid is raw. I also can see that he will get engulfed at times and he needs to develop more moves, but he has something you cannot teach. I see a big future for him if he works his ass off. This year, I keep it real simple for him. I put him in on 3rd and long and let him go after the QB like a dog going after a rib bone.

Case Keenum - After the first two series I thought Yates did reasonably well...but still saw some things that troubled me. Then Case came in. Case is strong where I question Yates. Better athleticism, better command, more leadership out there, able to make something out of nothing, etc. The play that sealed it for me was when he got flushed out moving to his left, squared his shoulders and found Jean and got it to him perfectly on the run. That kind of ability is innate and separates the wheat from the chaff.

Hopkins - He didn't have a perfect game BUT the catch in the end zone was priceless. He is going to be money in the red zone. Once he fully "gets it" he has star written all over him. Good debut...GREAT play.

Cierre Wood - I said it elsewhere. Kind of reminds me of one #23. Fluid, deceptive speed, good vision, knows when and how to cut, decisive, let's his blockers do their job, etc. Like the others mentioned here, I want to see him show this all preseason, BUT if he continues to shine like he did the other night, I think he has potential to replace Foster down the road.

Shapiro - I thought it was actually Lechler kicking at first. Kid has a foot and also placed the ball well. He has real potential. Doubt it's with us.

S Keo - Wait, did I just single out Shiloh Keo for praise? Yes I did. Still slow afoot, but if you know exactly where to be, you can at least be serviceable, and that's all you can expect. Kudos to the guy. Looks like he is working hard.

The Bad

DJ Swearinger - - One thing I learned in grade school. If you are going to run your mouth, you better be able to back it up. Right now, he can't. Poor game from him, with a tackle a HS guy would be chewed out for. I do think it's all correctable. Let's see what he has against the Fins.

Dennis Johnson - I see all the things that tantalize. But it's like the sum of the parts is less than the whole. It's like that girl with the AA breasts, but she has swag and carries herself beautifully vs a girl with the D chest but she's just a big breasted ugly girl with a rotten personality. It's not what you got - it's how you use what you got. I'm intrigued enough to want to see more - but he needs to turn it on.

T Williams - Apparently he didn't realize the game started at 7pm. Again, the parts are there but right now he is lost. Completely lost.

Brennen Williams and Sam Montgomery - You can't make the club from the tub and it's disappointing because I see them as sloths right now.

The Ugly

Roc Carmichael - Roc, Roc, Roc (shakes head) I heard so many good things from camp about you, and this is what you deliver? Watching Roc Carmichael is kind of like going to the bar. You have a few drinks and a beautiful girl invites you back to her place where she lets you have your way with her. You wake up the next morning, only to find you went to bed with Rosie O'Donnell after a sex change operation. Extremely disappointed and I think he played his way out of a job.

Joe Marciano - Can anyone tell me why he is still employed? I'm tired of the freaking excuses from everyone from Gary Kubiak to the water boy. I truly admire and like him personally, so this isn't personal - but he is a bad coach and Gary should have fired him. We had the worst ST in the league last year and all they did is bring in an assistant? What a joke. I mean it's the same exact crap as last year. I'm sure we'll hear all preseason about how coach Joe has to integrate all these young bucks in - as if all the other 31 teams magically have vets playing at every ST position. It's a joke - and the joke is on us. They were lousy as a group and it better get fixed.

Channel 13 - Ok the one non-football one. They have been a joke for years, and I have no idea why the Texans continue to affiliate with them. And it's not just because of the uplink issue Friday. That was just the cherry on top of the fail cake. The two announcers are terrible, and have been since the inception. Joel Myers (God love him) either is inept or has Alzheimer's. I've seen people at a speed dating seminar get more names correct. I kind of like Spencer on some weird level, but his cliche's got old about 8 years ago. I mean the man is literally a walking bundle of cliche's and adds no real analysis unless it includes a cliche. I somehow imagine that after his wife compliments him on his sexual performance, he says slow too, fast through, and I was just playing those deals and games baby.

I wish the ineptness just stopped there. The whole production stinks EVERY single game. The camera angles are bad, the cameramen lose the ball as much in one game as I see CBS do in a whole year. Camera work in general is bad. They play replays while there is live action going on. Do we get a replay of what we missed? Of course not - that would make too much sense. They replay unimportant things, and totally skip over the important stuff. They have stupid interviews every game that completely distract from the action on the field (this one may sadly be Texans directed). We didn't even have HD until recently. The whole freaking production from A to Z is one giant fail and this is every week for 10 years.

Enough is enough. Quit with the distracting interviews. If you must interview Jamie Roots, why not on a post game show? Hello. Mcfly. Anyone home? I sure hope the Texans are taking notice of this ****, because this is pathetic. They need to sign a new contract with another provider. 11 or 2. Give one of those two a chance. It literally could not be worse.

Edit - I should have added K Martin and L Jean to the bad list. Inconsistent is the only consistent thing with either one and we need someone at #3 that can be relied on. Jean's days are numbered imo.
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The Good

Earl Mitchell - I told y'all he was coming on, and peeps poo pooed on my assessment. Oh well, I've probably been more wrong than right anyway, so it's all good.

Deandre Hopkins - Showed why we drafted him...and after this game he's even more dedicated to his craft, but did you see Cordarrelle Patterson, too?

Cierre Wood - It's early, but I can't see how he loses the job. Plus...

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Cierre Wood “Houston is a real great city. This heat, that about takes the cake for me. It’s too hot. I thank God I can’t get any blacker than this, but it’s just ridiculous hot out here, especially today.”
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Cierre Wood (on if his mom has French ties) “Not that I know of; my mom tells me a lot of things. She could be anything at this point. I believed she was 39 for the past two years, so I couldn’t tell you what she was. I know I’m black so she got to be some sort of black.”


AJ Bouye - He makes the team in English and in French.


The Bad

Lestar Jean - Wish upon a star all you want, your days are numbered.

Cody White - Ghastly!

Trevardo Williams - Only the first game, but he pulled a Houdini.

The Ugly

Joe Marciano

Roc Carmichael - I can smell what the roc's got cookin'

Deandre Hopkins' Ronald McDonald Gloves.

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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Willie Jefferson plays way too high. It might be due to being kinda lanky. I'm not sure, but it appeared as if he stands straight up at the snap of the ball. He was able to make up for it at times with his hands. He has very fast hands that caught the opponent off guard a time or two.
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I thought the Vikings cheerleaders were kinda impressive.
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They're different receivers, but Patterson did look good. Much more explosive with the ball in his hands. I think both are going to be dynamic in their own right in my opinion.

Funny sidenote but both Dorin Dickerson and Da'rick Rogers scored today for Buffalo. Dickerson is shredded right now.
I was wondering if he had latched onto any team. Glad to see he's still hanging in there.

Too bad Buffalo has no real QB...

...okay so I don't really feel sorry for them...
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Too bad Buffalo has no real QB...

...okay so I don't really feel sorry for them...
I'd still like to see Kolb succeed.

& the Bills just picked up a very good coaching staff. They've got Rex Ryan's right hand man running the defense, & the Saints offensive coordinator from '06 to '08 (the year before the Super Bowl) as their head coach. Marrone (their head coach) went to Syracuse, improved that program & won a bowl game last year. Before all that, he was the Jets OL coach when they had a pretty respectable run game (2002-2005).

If Kolb can stay healthy (big IF) they can do some really good things up there in Buffalo..... lots of talent on that D, good RB/run game. If their coaches are as good as their resumes, Buffalo will be this year's Cinderella.
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Willie Jefferson plays way too high.
Hey, brother...Jerome Simpson plays high. Nick Fairley plays high. Now it seems that Von Miller plays high, too! So, I mean, I don't care how high Willie Jefferson plays. As long as he's productive, pass the Dutchie, and I'll see ya in East Rutherford, aight?

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Hey, brother...Jerome Simpson plays high. Nick Fairley plays high. Now it seems that Von Miller plays high, too! So, I mean, I don't care how high Willie Jefferson plays. As long as he's productive, pass the Dutchie, and I'll see ya in East Rutherford, aight?

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The Good:

Earl Mitchell - If he plays like that next to Watt, this would be one scary D-line.

Cierre Wood - I didn't have a favorite RB to take the #3 coming in but Wood impressed me the most.

DeAndre Hopkins - Awesome TD catch over the DB and he had 3 other receptions to go with it.

Case Keenum - I'm not as impressed as others were. He had a lot of nice throws but he reminded me of Leinart with his dinks-n-dunks.

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The bad??? Channel 13!!
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I need to rep you at least twice in this thread.

Bouye makes it in French or English.

LOL.

I can't blame TK for thinking that you're high, LMAO!
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L Jean looked terrible. You can't be a receiver in the NFL if you can't catch the ball. No natural receiving skills. Move on if we have better but not NFL quality.
Roc did not look good. What is the deal with running out of bounds on punt coverage. Makes me think not too sharp. Not impressive on coverage either.

Jeff M looked bad also. Always hear how he catches everything in sight in practice. Doesn't seem to trust his hands.

Other than Andre and De I don't see much from our WR's. Hope to see more in the rest of the games.

Bullock looked just OK. I though he had a strong leg. If so then he is not consistent.

On rewatch C Wood looked pretty good. Karim should be gone. DJ sometimes danced to much but I do like his speed. Did not see enough of Graham but I like him better than Karim.

Mitchell looked great. McClain also looked good. Would like to see him against 1's. Jefferson looks interesting. Need to keep him I think.

Special teams still looked bad.

Not sure if Case tried to call TO right at end of 3rd quarter, but if he did then he is not very aware of the situation. Looking forward to seeing him against 2's. My two concerns with him are high risk passes and him getting pounded because he is not afraid to stay in pocket.

Really too early to say on the rookies. Still very interested to see rest of preseason. I think we need to see if Tate can make it a couple of games without getting hurt.
Get head out Kubiak. Jean is a smaller, slower, dumber, less talented Jacoby.
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