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or baseball pitcher or baseball fielder. I just wanted to share this info on a "phenom" who as a red shirt freshman could impact Texans and NFL in 2014. He turns 19 December 2013 and could choose to remain in school but his first start was pretty good. Need a lot more evaluating but this college season could be his last so "heads up" as they say. Lengthy bio article:

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He is not eligible until 2015. If I remember the rules correctly, one has to be 3 years removed from high school.
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He is not eligible until 2015. If I remember the rules correctly, one has to be 3 years removed from high school.
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Yeah thought of that as I posted then did not know how to delete. I'll still watch him
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Yeah thought of that as I posted then did not know how to delete. I'll still watch him
It happens. He is certainly one to watch. I did not catch much of the game Monday night, but I made a mental note.
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He was touted as a great player coming out of high school and had a great game against Pitt. I'm trying to hold back a little because one game means nothing. He's got everything you would want out of a QB. He was doing a tad bit of **** talking in his first game, but our LT grabbed him after a TD and told him to calm down. He seems like a good guy too; he's a goofy guy if you follow his twitter.

We'll see how he performs against stiffer competition. We've got two seasons at least until we need to evaluate him as a prospect.

This guy has a deadly arm from the outfield. I watched FSU baseball this year and people rarely ever tried to take extra bases on him. He had a throw against Clemson to 3rd base where he got the runner and the Clemson kid got up like "what the hell???"
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He was touted as a great player coming out of high school and had a great game against Pitt. I'm trying to hold back a little because one game means nothing. He's got everything you would want out of a QB. He was doing a tad bit of **** talking in his first game, but our LT grabbed him after a TD and told him to calm down. He seems like a good guy too; he's a goofy guy if you follow his twitter.

We'll see how he performs against stiffer competition. We've got two seasons at least until we need to evaluate him as a prospect.

This guy has a deadly arm from the outfield. I watched FSU baseball this year and people rarely ever tried to take extra bases on him. He had a throw against Clemson to 3rd base where he got the runner and the Clemson kid got up like "what the hell???"
TS I was hoping you would weigh in. Please drop an occasion line about what you see if you will. Few are the RS I get to focus on as so many others to watch. I should have caught his eligibility when I saw he is still 18. That is what I was reviewing in my mind when I hit the post. He "rages" on the field supposedly and drew some penalties in high school I believe. Looks like all he needs is seasoning.
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I like him on first look.
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Hear that sound? That is Winston laughing this weekend at Mac Brown not choosing him.
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What's all this about Winston and Texas? His top two choices in the end were Alabama and Florida State, far and away. He chose FSU because they allowed him to also play baseball with Mike Martin, a legendary baseball coach. I keep hearing this and can't find anything outside of the fact that he was interested in Texas early in the process. The guy was the #1 quarterback in the nation out of high school, had Texas really had it so easy he would be a Longhorn. Recruits often change their mind frequently during the recruiting process. I can't tell you how many kids say they are going to sign with Florida State, then sign elsewhere. It happens every year.

The only reason he chose FSU was the ability to also play baseball. Had it not been for that, he would be at Alabama, not Texas.
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What's all this about Winston and Texas? His top two choices in the end were Alabama and Florida State, far and away. He chose FSU because they allowed him to also play baseball with Mike Martin, a legendary baseball coach. I keep hearing this and can't find anything outside of the fact that he was interested in Texas early in the process. The guy was the #1 quarterback in the nation out of high school, had Texas really had it so easy he would be a Longhorn. Recruits often change their mind frequently during the recruiting process. I can't tell you how many kids say they are going to sign with Florida State, then sign elsewhere. It happens every year.

The only reason he chose FSU was the ability to also play baseball. Had it not been for that, he would be at Alabama, not Texas.
Jameis Winston: "I'm an OU fan but I always wanted to go to Texas. If I'd gotten offer from Texas I'd be going to Texas right now" — Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) September 3, 2013


CBS Sports’ Bruce Feldman confirmed with Winston’s high school coach that the quarterback had called Texas “four or five” times and never received a call back.


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Jameis Winston: "I'm an OU fan but I always wanted to go to Texas. If I'd gotten offer from Texas I'd be going to Texas right now" — Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) September 3, 2013


CBS Sports’ Bruce Feldman confirmed with Winston’s high school coach that the quarterback had called Texas “four or five” times and never received a call back.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...89--ncaaf.html
I read that.

Every year there are two or three guys that say that they have wanted to go to Florida State for their entire lives, verbally commit, only to sign elsewhere. That's the process. When someone says, "I want to go to "x" school," it often means that the process is not nearly over. Same thing happened with Julio Jones and Florida State, among many many other players. Dante Fowler, now a Gator, did the exact same thing.

My point is that a school never has a recruit in the bag until he signs on the dotted line. Had Texas recruited him harder, they may not even have been in his top 5 at the end of the recruiting period. Seems like fantasy to say "Texas could have had this kid if they wanted." That's rarely ever true.
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I read that.

Every year there are two or three guys that say that they have wanted to go to Florida State for their entire lives, verbally commit, only to sign elsewhere. That's the process. When someone says, "I want to go to "x" school," it often means that the process is not nearly over. Same thing happened with Julio Jones and Florida State, among many many other players. Dante Fowler, now a Gator, did the exact same thing.
He didn't say that before hand. He said that a few days ago.

I know how college recruiting goes. I was personally involved in the process about 10 years ago.

Why would he lie and say that and them why would his coach come out and say that he called Texas a few times and they never showed interest because they didn't think they had a shot to get him?

Mack browns statements confirm that. Said he got a tip that Winston wasn't really interested, so he didn't pursue him.

This was not some "early in the process" statement (which is what you initially said is all you could find)

So either you think Winston and his coach are lying or ???? I don't really see another option since you don't believe them.
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He didn't say that before hand. He said that a few days ago.

I know how college recruiting goes. I was personally involved in the process about 10 years ago.

Why would he lie and say that and them why would his coach come out and say that he called Texas a few times and they never showed interest because they didn't think they had a shot to get him?

Mack browns statements confirm that. Said he got a tip that Winston wasn't really interested, so he didn't pursue him.

This was not some "early in the process" statement (which is what you initially said is all you could find)

So either you think Winston and his coach are lying or ???? I don't really see another option since you don't believe them.
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From your link. It says in a 2012 interview, it's only getting attention now.

He wanted to be recruited by them, said he would sign.

My point is that player's say that they have wanted it there entire lives, even verbally commit and then go elsewhere. It happens often, as you know.
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My point is that a school never has a recruit in the bag until he signs on the dotted line. Had Texas recruited him harder, they may not even have been in his top 5 at the end of the recruiting period. Seems like fantasy to say "Texas could have had this kid if they wanted." That's rarely ever true.
Like I said, I've personally gone through the recruiting process. I know how it goes. Don't need any info on that. I've visited different schools, sent film out, had coaches at my house...the whole 9.

But you're saying its fantasy to say Texas could have had him. People are only saying that because HE SAID IT.

So again...you have to think he'a lying. This is not some talking head speculation or MB chatter. The person you need to direct your disbelief towards is Winston.

If you think he's lying, fine. But that's not the argument you laid out.
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Like I said, I've personally gone through the recruiting process. I know how it goes. Don't need any info on that. I've visited different schools, sent film out, had coaches at my house...the whole 9.

But you're saying its fantasy to say Texas could have had him. People are only saying that because HE SAID IT.

So again...you have to think he'a lying. This is not some talking head speculation or MB chatter. The person you need to direct your disbelief towards is Winston.

If you think he's lying, fine. But that's not the argument you laid out.
It's not fantasy to say that it was a possibility, but it's fantasy to say that they would have had him had they recruited him harder. As you know, that's rarely the case.

I don't think he is lying, I think it was a fluid process as it always is. I have heard numerous times now that Texas would have had him had they recruited him harder, I am simply pointing out that that is rarely true.
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From your link. It says in a 2012 interview, it's only getting attention now.

He wanted to be recruited by them, said he would sign.

My point is that player's say that they have wanted it there entire lives, even verbally commit and then go elsewhere. It happens often, as you know.
What does that matter? Regardless he said it after he had committed to FSU. This wasn't an "early in the process" statement like you initially said.

The fact that he said it last year gives it even more credence.
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It's not fantasy to say that it was a possibility, but it's fantasy to say that they would have had him had they recruited him harder. As you know, that's rarely the case.

I don't think he is lying, I think it was a fluid process as it always is. I have heard numerous times now that Texas would have had him had they recruited him harder, I am simply pointing out that that is rarely true.
I agree with that. It's a very fluid process and all kinds if things can sway your decision.

All that said, he's saying this stuff himself and has not issued a denial or retraction as far as I know.

I could understand if he said that early on in the process that he'd love to go to UT, but he said definitively that he would've been there.

But even if he did say that early on, doesnt mean it couldn't also be true.

It's not really that big of a deal other than to long horn fans mad because Mack sucks at getting top tier QB's....I can see why an FSU alumni would be mad because you want to be his first love. You don't want to feel like he settled for 2nd place.

But like I said...it's not a big deal. He's there now and likely not going anywhere. He's a Seminole.
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What does that matter? Regardless he said it after he had committed to FSU. This wasn't an "early in the process" statement like you initially said.

The fact that he said it last year gives it even more credence.
Where does it say that he said that after signing with FSU? National signing day is in February, he signed February 2012. Regardless, players make decisions after visits with multiple schools, as you know. Rarely does a player verbally commit to a school after receiving a scholarship offer without taking an unofficial or official visit.

The point is that it wasn't in the bag as is being insinuated. It's not about lying, it's about understanding how these things usually go even after recruits say they want to go to x school. The process continues and things often change.
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I agree with that. It's a very fluid process and all kinds if things can sway your decision.

All that said, he's saying this stuff himself and has not issued a denial or retraction as far as I know.

I could understand if he said that early on in the process that he'd love to go to UT, but he said definitively that he would've been there.

But even if he did say that early on, doesnt mean it couldn't also be true.

It's not really that big of a deal other than to long horn fans mad because Mack sucks at getting top tier QB's....I can see why an FSU alumni would be mad because you want to be his first love. You don't want to feel like he settled for 2nd place.

But like I said...it's not a big deal. He's there now and likely not going anywhere. He's a Seminole.
It's not really about FSU being his first love. Hell, he wanted to go to Alabama more than FSU, it was mainly about being able to also play baseball, which Saban apparently wouldn't allow.

I'm just trying to insert some realism here. I spoke to a Longhorn family friend of mine on Thursday and he was ranting on and on about how Texas could have easily had this guy had Mack Brown recruited him harder. I just thought that was fantasy.
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