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Old 09-05-2013   #61
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Did you see the Fox that coached at Carolina? Maybe he actually has a QB he can trust. Fox is a conservative coach if you couldn't tell by how he handled the playoff game last year in the playoffs. You may want to pick a better example.
My example is every game the last 6 seasons that we have had a lead in, plenty of examples out there.
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My example is every game the last 6 seasons that we have had a lead in, plenty of examples out there.
Your comparison to the Broncos with their conservative defensive minded coach and HOF QB stinks though.
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Your comparison to the Broncos with their conservative defensive minded coach and HOF QB stinks though.
dude really, Manning just threw on 2nd and 8, still throwing with a big big lead, we would not. Pretty simple.
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Manning is going to give me nightmares tonight. LOL!
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dude really, Manning just threw on 2nd and 8, still throwing with a big big lead, we would not. Pretty simple.
Do you not understand that I mentioned that he has freaking Peyton Manning and we have Matt Schaub? He didn't do that with Delhomme or any other QB he had when he was a head coach at Carolina. He ran the ball and and played good defense. When you have a QB that you can trust to not turn the ball over when you have a lead it makes a difference. Not only that but Peyton understands taking whats given and getting what he can with short passes and keeping the clock moving. Schaub isn't Manning in that regard. Fox is just as conservative if not more conservative than Kubiak. He just has this great guy at the wheel who's an all time great right now.
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Does the fact that I mentioned that he has freaking Peyton Manning and we have Matt Schaub not something you can understand? He didn't do that with Delhomme or any other QB he had when he was a head coach at Carolina. He ran the ball and and played good defense. When you have a QB that you can trust to not turn the ball over when you have a lead it makes a difference. Not only that but Peyton understands taking whats given and getting what he can with short passes and keeping the clock moving. Schaub isn't Manning in that regard. Fox is just as conservative if not more conservative than Kubiak. He just has this great guy at the wheel who's an all time great right now.
Well if Kubiak cant trust Schaub then they should not of resigned him to a long term contract. But they did so either they are retarded, or Schaub has some secret pictures of kubiak and rick smith they dont want anyone to know about.
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Kubiak would have gone shell mode, about 3rd quarter.. and made the game close and interesting.. When you have your victims down, keep kicking them till the game is over..

This is my biggest grief about Kubiak, he coaches with a backup QB's mentality.
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Well if Kubiak cant trust Schaub then they should not of resigned him to a long term contract. But they did so either they are retarded, or Schaub has some secret pictures of kubiak and rick smith they dont want anyone to know about.
Or maybe, just maybe Schaub is better than anyone else the Texans could have gotten and he's the best option. Just because he doesn't completely trust him doesn't mean they're supposed to replace him. Schaub gives the Texans the best chance to win, knows the offense, and does good things early in games, but he's been known to make mistakes late in games. So if you have a big lead and you have 2 elite backs that can drain the clock why exactly would you continue to put the ball in the air. I guarantee you the Broncos would much rather pound the crap out of the Ravens running the ball but they don't have the backs right now to do that. Kubiak as the coordinator would have a nice mix when he was blowing teams away with Elway at the helm running the ball and passing the ball. Do you know what he had there though? A freaking HOF QB! You win the game however you can.
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Haha! How great is this guy Manning. Up big and 3rd & long under 2 minutes the dude threw the ball for a first down. The trust this guy command is why he is going in the HOF. Wish we had a chance to sign him. Oh wait....we did.
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Ummmm yeah thanks to our running game, we werent chunking it all over the place even in the 3rd quarter.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?ga...21034&period=0
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dude really, Manning just threw on 2nd and 8, still throwing with a big big lead, we would not. Pretty simple.
...because your link disproves this statement. Up by 19 in the 3rd Schaub starts the 80 yd TD drive (i.e. on 1st down) with a pass, follows it up on a 2nd and 12 with a 35 yd pass and gets 65 of 80 yds through the air.

Or we can look at the 1st Titans game 3rd qtr up 21-7: 75 yds 4 passes 3 runs including a 28 yd TD pass on 3rd and 5 inside FG range.

Or there is the Denver game 3rd qtr up 24-11 on our 28. 72 passing yds for a TD - 1 rush for no gain.
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Here is the difference between good coaches and great coaches, Kubiak would of called the dogs off once we had a 14 point lead. Wish Kubes was more like fox, and had the mentality "if you dont want us to score than stop us" instead of "If you want to catch up go ahead, cause we're on cruise control"
I bet the Broncos wish they had an Arian Foster & the ability to run out the clock on January 12th.

Come January 2014, they'll probably find themselves in the same situation. That 4th qtr would have been a good time to work on their run game.
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Kubiak would have gone shell mode, about 3rd quarter.. and made the game close and interesting.. When you have your victims down, keep kicking them till the game is over..
The only reason the game gets close & interesting is because our run game wasn't what it was in 2011. Go back & look at some of the scores from 2011, up to the Tampa Bay game (where Schaub got hurt)... we beat the Bucs by 28 points, the Browns by 18, the Titans by 34, Indy by 27.

Why would he go into a shell against some teams, but blow out others? Just because he doesn't throw the ball doesn't mean he doesn't want to score.
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That 4th qtr would have been a good time to work on their run game.
I think practice is for working on the run game. I know there's no better practice than a real opponent but I just think that when things are clicking you stay with it. Besides, no way Peyton gives the ball away like that in the 4th. All the top tier guys are killers out on the field and don't want to just give the ball away. Guys like Manning and Brady step on that field and own it.

I'm sure every team that passed on the opportunity to sign Manning is giving themselves an old fashioned punch to the face tonight. Ugh...
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Manning threw 7 TD's? Is that some sort of single game record?
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Congrats to Peyton, good to see him back in prime form after his injury. What a performance.
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The only reason the game gets close & interesting is because our run game wasn't what it was in 2011. Go back & look at some of the scores from 2011, up to the Tampa Bay game (where Schaub got hurt)... we beat the Bucs by 28 points, the Browns by 18, the Titans by 34, Indy by 27.

Why would he go into a shell against some teams, but blow out others? Just because he doesn't throw the ball doesn't mean he doesn't want to score.
Are you trying to actually defend the Kubiak doesn't go into Conserviak mode when he's up on a lead? Come on we've been watching this guy coach for years, he's even admitted he plays the odds... You can't honestly defend that TC...
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Are you trying to actually defend the Kubiak doesn't go into Conserviak mode when he's up on a lead? Come on we've been watching this guy coach for years, he's even admitted he plays the odds... You can't honestly defend that TC...
I don't think conservative is the right word. He's still trying to score, he just doesn't want to give the ball to the other team anytime soon. Taking a chance & not getting a first down is just as risky as trying to throw the ball downfield.
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Bronco's looked very good but I'm not incredibly worried about them. They're a challenge but they won't keep up that pace all year long and frankly they were at home in front of a prime-time super-psyched crowd wailing away on a Ravens team that's a shell of itself.

I think we'll be able to deal with them. It will be tough but that 7TD game was an aberration not a peek at things to come.
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Lol @ people trying to work the Texans into this whole thing. I may not have the energy to argue against the retarded arguments this year.

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Bronco's looked very good but I'm not incredibly worried about them. They're a challenge but they won't keep up that pace all year long and frankly they were at home in front of a prime-time super-psyched crowd wailing away on a Ravens team that's a shell of itself.

I think we'll be able to deal with them. It will be tough but that 7TD game was an aberration not a peek at things to come.
The only thing they don't have is a consistent running game, or maybe a running game at all. The amount and quality of weapons Manning has at his disposal is frightening and that defense looks like it's going to really get after QBs this year.
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The Broncos have a HOF QB that tossed for 7 TDs, against a better than average defense.

As far as the running game goes, its the 2013 NFL. Its probably less important than the kicking game at this point.
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