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Old 09-01-2013   #221
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Remember when everyone (especially here) was calling for Rex to take over from Kubiak?
No. I can't remember that at all. Feel free to search the forum. I do remember a lot of posters wanting Bill Cowher, with a handful of Jon Grudens thrown in. I don't remember any Ryan (Rex or Ryan) being on the radar here.
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There are three things you can count on with injuries (1) they will happen to every team (2) some players are just more susceptible to injuries (3) you can't predict or count on them with the exception of rule (2).

Tate is on my list of "more susceptible", so hopefully we'll stash away a good RB on the practice squad since Wood made the 53. Sharpton also makes my (2) list.
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Dont worry about Tate. This is a contact yr. He's in great shape and I prdict that Foster wont last the season. But Tate will step in and show that he's an elite talent.
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No. I can't remember that at all. Feel free to search the forum. I do remember a lot of posters wanting Bill Cowher, with a handful of Jon Grudens thrown in. I don't remember any Ryan (Rex or Ryan) being on the radar here.
That was me, I was wanting Nolan Ryan. I've definitely come off that idea.
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No. I can't remember that at all. Feel free to search the forum. I do remember a lot of posters wanting Bill Cowher, with a handful of Jon Grudens thrown in. I don't remember any Ryan (Rex or Ryan) being on the radar here.
Yeah, I don't remember anyone wanting RxRyan as our HC. I do remember folks saying how much better he was than Kubiak. That but whup'n they put on us week 1, getting to the play offs his first year, the Afc Championship game. Then following it & going 11-5, another AFC Championship game.

Rx was pretty good at blowing smoke & those guys loved having his back. But you can only bluff so long. & you can only sell snake-oil to your own people for so long.

Kubiak's been selling his snake oil to our boys for 7 years now.... let's see if they're still buying it.
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Dont worry about Tate. This is a contact yr. He's in great shape and I prdict that Foster wont last the season. But Tate will step in and show that he's an elite talent.
I just hope Arian don't take it personal if Ben is getting more carries early in the season. If we've got an early lead, I'm letting Ben & Cierre run roughshod in the second half. (Now I mean 10+ points)
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There's an entire section in yesterdays ragsheet, aka: Houston Chronicle, dedicated to our Texans, with pretty good reviews on our QB, GM, and the roster. Truthfully, a pretty good read.

For all you RS fans, an entire page is dedicated to his dedication!
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I just hope Arian don't take it personal if Ben is getting more carries early in the season. If we've got an early lead, I'm letting Ben & Cierre run roughshod in the second half. (Now I mean 10+ points)
They better. Can't run Arian to the ground. I felt like they could have given him more rest when we had big leads last season.
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They better. Can't run Arian to the ground. I felt like they could have given him more rest when we had big leads last season.
While I agree, just wait til the Playoffs (if/when we make it)...

Tate/Foster will have get their carries, then come January...Foster goes for 30 carries a week.
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While I agree, just wait til the Playoffs (if/when we make it)...

Tate/Foster will have get their carries, then come January...Foster goes for 30 carries a week.
I think it will depend on how well Tate shows when he's on the field.
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If we have a big enough lead that we won't be passing much (you know, like 3 points, LOL), then I think Wood should get what would be considered a lot of carries for a 3rd stringer. I mean as long as he's not going to get our QB(s) killed, you know.
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Gary called the shots on the 2006 draft and did better than any draft in Texans history. IMHO

Rick had nothing to do with the 2006 draft.
Contrary to popular belief the 2006 Texans was actually orchestrated by Charlie Casserly. It was Charlie who convinced Bob and Gary to pass on Reggie Bush and take Mario. And it was Charlie who talked Gary in to drafting Owen Daniels. The reason the Texans were not interested in VY and Leinart was Kubiak believed he could win a SB with David Carr and the Texans had already paid Carr a $10 million Bonus 2 months before the 06' draft.

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Remember when everyone (especially here) was calling for Rex to take over from Kubiak? Yeah, no one seems to be owning up to that gem of an idea anymore.
NO, but I was calling calling for Bob McNair to HIRE Jim Harbaugh after the 2010 season (see houston texans message board). And for the record, my wish list is for Bob McNair to HIRE Oliver Luck as the GM for 2014 and David Shaw as the new Texans Head Coach in 2014.
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Contrary to popular belief the 2006 Texans was actually orchestrated by Charlie Casserly. It was Charlie who convinced Bob and Gary to pass on Reggie Bush and take Mario. And it was Charlie who talked Gary in to drafting Owen Daniels. The reason the Texans were not interested in VY and Leinart was Kubiak believed he could win a SB with David Carr and the Texans had already paid Carr a $10 million Bonus 2 months before the 06' draft.
I've always heard that Bob McNair wanted Kubiak to give Carr a shot and it was a condition of the employment. Kubiak wasn't all the interested in Carr, especially after talking to him. Again, just a story I read a long time ago.
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Contrary to popular belief the 2006 Texans was actually orchestrated by Charlie Casserly. It was Charlie who convinced Bob and Gary to pass on Reggie Bush and take Mario. And it was Charlie who talked Gary in to drafting Owen Daniels. The reason the Texans were not interested in VY and Leinart was Kubiak believed he could win a SB with David Carr and the Texans had already paid Carr a $10 million Bonus 2 months before the 06' draft.
The bold has been confirmed and shows the power dynamic, i.e. Kubiak was in charge. The rest is conjecture which is unconfirmed and conflicts with other reports as well as the dynamic demonstrated by OD.
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The bold has been confirmed and shows the power dynamic, i.e. Kubiak was in charge. The rest is conjecture which is unconfirmed and conflicts with other reports as well as the dynamic demonstrated by OD.
Does cherry picking go with conjecture since your cherries agree with your conjecture? There have been several confirmations and stories about the drafting Mario, not that hard to find, just need to put forth a little effort. Of all the videos, blogs and articles of Charlie explaining and discussing the 2006 draft, the Texans have never contradicted, not once, including Kubiak, Casserly's claims and explanations. They have, however, at times corroborated what Charlie had to say. I think it's also clear the Texans paid Carr his bonus within a few weeks of Kubiak being hired.

Basic logic and common sense to understand that is was Casserly, Casserly college & pro scouting departments who put together the 2006 draft. Kubiak didn't have time or people in place to do all that is needed to get ready for the draft. Kubiak had final say on players drafted but it was Casserly who provided all scouting reports and info for Kubiak to make the call or agree with Charlie. From that standpoint nothing has changed. Why Casserly also left not long after the draft. He could've taken his leave before the draft but he didn't, because he was putting the draft together.
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If it was so easy then you would link it. It's your assertion. Provide a quote from the horse's mouth.

You admit Kubiak had final call - that admits the whole game. If Kubiak had wanted anyone else then he would have taken them.

Who hired the scouts is irrelevant. Nobody comes in and fires the whole scouting department after both the pro and college seasons are over.
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If it was so easy then you would link it. It's your assertion. Provide a quote from the horse's mouth.

Let's start with these; http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2325442 and go to google.com and type in "Charley Casserly drafts Mario Williams" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-the-draftniks and there are many more

You admit Kubiak had final call - that admits the whole game. If Kubiak had wanted anyone else then he would have taken them. or he did listen to Charley/Scouting Departments advice

Who hired the scouts is irrelevant. Nobody comes in and fires the whole scouting department after both the pro and college seasons are over.SO KUBIAK & COACHING STAFF DIDN"T PUT THE DRAFT BOARD TOGETHER? AND IT WAS CASSERLY'S & STAFF's DRAFT BOARD?
One man's conjecture is another man's apologies and excuses. It does appear you're trying to revise history a bit and write a story that agrees with your dislike of Casserly.
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One man's conjecture is another man's apologies and excuses. It does appear you're trying to revise history a bit and write a story that agrees with your dislike of Casserly.
LOL - and there you go proving your penchant for making up facts. I don't dislike Casserly.

Your articles are ridiculous. The 1st doesn't say anything about Mario. Nowhere in the 2nd does Casserly either (a) say Kubiak wanted Bush at any point or (b) take credit for convincing Kubiak to take Williams.

Your draft board comments do not reflect anything I said. There is no exclusive choice between coaches and the scouting dept. Everyone is involved.
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One man's conjecture is another man's apologies and excuses. It does appear you're trying to revise history a bit and write a story that agrees with your dislike of Casserly.
Casserly was awful! I could care less that he hit on a couple guys over the course of 5 drafts. It took the organization 4 years to recover from the destruction he committed. He obliterated the cap by spending obscene amounts of money on guys over the hill... passed out draft picks like they were candy on Halloween (remember the 2nd and 3rd round picks for Phillip Buchanon), was duped into taking broken down players like Boselli and Young in the expansion draft... Somehow concluded that Julius Peppers was not a fit for a 3-4 defense and drafted David Carr instead- then proceeded to waste the other 10 picks from that draft.

So, an argument whether he was responsible for Mario Williams (good riddens, by the way) and/or Owen Daniels in the 2006 draft- of which only Daniels remains, is not one I would think many Texan fans are interested in.

I'm a huge fan of Gary Kubiak- that being said, I do not want Kubiak nor Casserly as the ultimate decision-maker when it comes to personnel... Since Kubiak lost that power after the 2010 6-10 fiasco, I think Smith has shown himself to be one of the best GMs in football.
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I think it was just a terrible mix. Bad player selection poor player development. You don't go 2-14 without some epic fail.
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So, an argument whether he was responsible for Mario Williams (good riddens, by the way) and/or Owen Daniels in the 2006 draft- of which only Daniels remains, is not one I would think many Texan fans are interested in.
The Texans ain't never hit on a second rounder like they did with Demeco Ryans from that '06 draft. Hard to believe that Casserly found him & made the decision to select him when he couldn't trade into the first to get a decent first rounder.
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