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Old 09-02-2013   #521
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What I find sort of hilarious about this is that a lot of the people in here who criticize Manziel for talking trash in a game don't even notice it happening in every game they watch between opponents. It happens that much, that you hardly notice it. Hell, half of the people in here who are critizing Manziel for talking trash on the field applauded Andre Johnson for trying to bash a guy's skull in on the field on a Sunday afternoon.

Double standards I tell ya.
You know for a double standard accusation to work the situations have to be similar which is not the case with your argument.

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He looked pissed. Part of me thinks Sumlin would rather have Case Keenum as his QB.
Bingo [/argument]. His coach thought it A was unusual and B a dumbass move. Why don't you apologists figure out a way to work Sumlin into your ESPN conspiracy?
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Bingo [/argument]. His coach thought it A was unusual and B a dumbass move. Why don't you apologists figure out a way to work Sumlin into your ESPN conspiracy?
I personally think Sumlin handled it appropriately. It wasn't a very smart thing to do, but I also think it's overblown. He talked trash and was penalized for it. Big freaking deal! I just fail to see how this needs to be discussed at length either on their network or any other media outlet 2 days after the fact.
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Sumlin knows that when the chips are down. You can't give free yards to teams like Alabama.

Manziel should know that too

However I think some of the **** is overblown.
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So be sick and tired then. I don't watch ESPN debate shows. I've seen nothing in regards to reporting on the way Manziel was acting. I watched the game and formed my own opinion. Believe it or not, people do form their own opinions and don't need to watch ESPN talk shows in order to do that. How about you guys just take people's opinion for their opinion and quit blaming ESPN? Y'all sound crazily paranoid.





Wow, maturity is clearly not something you are going to be able to decipher.
No I can decipher maturity, what I can't decipher is the BS of Hipocracy it seems people have. People that allow themselves to be bothered by Manziel, are weak minded in their own right. He is a freaking 20 year old kid. If you are letting the antics of a 20 year old kid get you angry or upset, you have your own special issues.

I'm not a homer, I never even went to Texas A&M, but I do notice the hypocrisy of ESPN and all the outlets wanting to make Manziel a cancer, when it was ESPN who built this kid up. It wasn't a year ago, his "money" gesture was him showing swag, as they said on ESPN, NOW it's immature? BS...

It's doesn't matter who the hell they are playing, teams talk trash, they get talked back to. EVERY team does it. I've seen Alabama QB talk smack when kicking the crap outta teams worse than Rice, and HE is what a Senior?

Come down off your high horse there buddy, air breathes just the same down here....
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I don't know how you got the idea that was casting aspersions on your character. I was referring to Manziel's lack humility and class, not yours. No, there's nothing personal. Yeah, I disagree with you with almost everything, but I disagree with everyone around here with almost everything. But it's nothing more than than that.
I guess my reading comprehension is waning after all of these yrs. Post 501,

Wow, YOU act as if making an effort some humility and class are bad things. Typical.

Maybe my reading comprehension isn't so bad afterall. Anyway I repped you because I'm sure you didn't mean to direct that post to me. LOL
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No I can decipher maturity, what I can't decipher is the BS of Hipocracy it seems people have. People that allow themselves to be bothered by Manziel, are weak minded in their own right. He is a freaking 20 year old kid. If you are letting the antics of a 20 year old kid get you angry or upset, you have your own special issues.

I'm not a homer, I never even went to Texas A&M, but I do notice the hypocrisy of ESPN and all the outlets wanting to make Manziel a cancer, when it was ESPN who built this kid up. It wasn't a year ago, his "money" gesture was him showing swag, as they said on ESPN, NOW it's immature? BS...

It's doesn't matter who the hell they are playing, teams talk trash, they get talked back to. EVERY team does it. I've seen Alabama QB talk smack when kicking the crap outta teams worse than Rice, and HE is what a Senior?

Come down off your high horse there buddy, air breathes just the same down here....
Manziel doesn't get me upset, I've already stated that. I just called him an ******* and then you and others respond like I slapped your 12 year old daughter.
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Manziel doesn't get me upset, I've already stated that. I just called him an ******* and then you and others respond like I slapped your 12 year old daughter.
No I respond to point out the hypocrisy of people. Same people that were singing this kids praises and calling him the next big thing, are now calling him a tool and a-hole, immature and radical and this and that. It's freaking hilarious.

I enjoy watching him play, he is exciting but I am not going to get my day ruined because he is sitting court side at a basketball game, or sitting in a casino with a wad of cash or out getting hammered. I don't get bent because this kid comes from money, then flaunts it and has more fun in 1 summer than most that bash him have had in an entire life time.....

BUT that's just me...
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No I respond to point out the hypocrisy of people. Same people that were singing this kids praises and calling him the next big thing, are now calling him a tool and a-hole, immature and radical and this and that. It's freaking hilarious.

I enjoy watching him play, he is exciting but I am not going to get my day ruined because he is sitting court side at a basketball game, or sitting in a casino with a wad of cash or out getting hammered. I don't get bent because this kid comes from money, then flaunts it and has more fun in 1 summer than most that bash him have had in an entire life time.....

BUT that's just me...
Because all that you just brought up was mentioned in my post, or any of my posts?
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If you are letting the antics of a 20 year old kid get you angry or upset, you have your own special issues...
wait.. we cant criticize manziel? is he obama now?
and what issues do you think people have when they get their pantys in a bunch when the media criticizes their idol?

were you the "leave britney alone" dude a few years ago?
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somebody dub that video above into "leave manziel alone right now!!!"
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I am amazed that people can't hold the thought that Johnny football is an amazing, if not brilliant football player and an immature (even for 20) tool at the same time. Because you like the one does not mean you ignore the other.
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I am amazed that people can't hold the thought that Johnny football is an amazing, if not brilliant football player and an immature (even for 20) tool at the same time. Because you like the one does not mean you ignore the other.
Very true

I like the fact that JM beats to his own drummer, sometimes to his own detriment.
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What I find sort of hilarious about this is that a lot of the people in here who criticize Manziel for talking trash in a game don't even notice it happening in every game they watch between opponents. It happens that much, that you hardly notice it. Hell, half of the people in here who are critizing Manziel for talking trash on the field applauded Andre Johnson for trying to bash a guy's skull in on the field on a Sunday afternoon.

Double standards I tell ya.
He should have done something that this board would have found classy, like trying to smash another man in the head with his own helmet.
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Dont matter to me what Manziel does, IMO he will turn out to be J Russell all over again. I dont see his "talent" transfering to NFL success.

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Talk about the media making a mountain out of a molehill? What did he do that so awful? OMG, rice players were talking smack and making a signing motion and he did it back and pointed to the scoreboard. THE HORROR!

The refs were watching him all game long for something to flag. In the first half after a score he ran down with other players on the sideline and jump-bumped the player who scored and the ref grabbed him and told him to back to the sideline. Just him, even though there were many others there also.

Espn is trying to make everything manziel does villianous when it steps away from what thy want to see, which is him completely humbled and not doing anything special. Hell, Paul finebaum said today that respecting the opponent and not talking trash is "sacrosanct" in college football. Gimme a damn break.
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Maybe he hates him too.
Most folks don't understand Sumlin's "lack of flexibility". For those of us who do, it's no surprise. (Just like the defensive suspensions)

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So be sick and tired then. I don't watch ESPN debate shows. I've seen nothing in regards to reporting on the way Manziel was acting. I watched the game and formed my own opinion. Believe it or not, people do form their own opinions and don't need to watch ESPN talk shows in order to do that. How about you guys just take people's opinion for their opinion and quit blaming ESPN? Y'all sound crazily paranoid.
And you sound like your opionion was formed by the talking heads at ESPN. Fine, the kid got a flag for taunting the other team (after getting taunted to begin with) - big friggin deal. I had to find radio coverage of the game, as I still wanted some play-by-play and not a 20+ minute discourse on how Johnny Football is ruining the american college football landscape.

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His coach thought it A was unusual and B a dumbass move. Why don't you apologists figure out a way to work Sumlin into your ESPN conspiracy?
I've never seen anything from Sumlin indicating that taunting was "unusual". Sure, it was a dumbass penalty, it just wasn't the end of the western world and hasn't required the level of horse**** piled on that has followed. Not sure where what Sumlin thinks has anything whatsoever to do with the ESPN attack.

Does the kid do immature things? Sure. He grew up well off in a community where it's likely anything he did could be swept under the rug. He's had great success at a young age, is talented and loves the spotlight. He gets to live under closer scrutiny than anyone most of us have ever met. I doubt that anyone his age really understands what to make of everything. It shows. This is a kid (with his background) acting like a kid (with his background).

Let's analyze this a little deeper. ESPN "breaks" a story on Manziel signing autographs for $$$. When push comes to shove, both they (and the NCAA) look like dopes, as they can't get a single "witness" to come forward. Sure, that might have more than a little to do with the likelihood that the State of Texas would prosecute the brokers, just as the whole investigation had more than a small root in Alabama football. ESPN looks like the fools they often are, and Manziel manages to give them more ammo with the taunting penalty. Oh look, no deeper analysis is really needed.
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