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Old 09-02-2013   #501
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What makes him so special? LOL A blind man can see what makes him so special. Have you seen him play? If so you would realize how dumb that statement is.

Is he cocky and arrogant? Yes, Most great athletes are Jordan/Bonds/Brady etc... it's in their DNA. What most people dont like is the fact that guys like these have the innate ability to deal with outside pressures and still be their own person, and still perform at the highest level.

That and the fact is that they win and some people get very jealous and do their best to try to bring these athletes down. They aren't going to bring Manziel down, because he has the $$$$ to fight the system and a willingness to do so. Unlike Adams/Posey at Ohio St.

The only person that will bring down Manziel is himself and one day that will happen. But it wont be today. Manziel, from a few old timers I've talked to say he is a modern day Bobby Layne. Another Texas football legend.
Wow! You act as if making an effort to try to show some humility and class are bad things. Typical.

Don't tell me that someone never pulled him aside and said "you are a public figure now".

Don't tell me that someone never pulled him aside and said "from now on, everything you do, and everything you say will be put under a microscope and be subject to scrutiny".

Don't tell me thst someone never pulled him aside and said "perception is everything, perception is everything, perception is everything. If you forget everything else, simply remember thst perception is everything".

Someone indeed had told him that. Probably so many times, they are blue in the face.

But he's just not listening. So he can reap the whirlwind.
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Wow! You act as if making an effort to try to show some humility and class are bad things. Typical.

Don't tell me that someone never pulled him aside and said "you are a public figure now".

Don't tell me that someone never pulled him aside and said "from now on, everything you do, and everything you say will be put under a microscope and be subject to scrutiny".

Don't tell me thst someone never pulled him aside and said "perception is everything, perception is everything, perception is everything. If you forget everything else, simply remember thst perception is everything".

Someone indeed had told him that. Probably so many times, they are blue in the face.

But he's just not listening. So he can reap the whirlwind.
Show me where I've shown nothing but class on this MB? Yes, I've disagreed with the way the Texans do businees as a team. But nothing personal. You seem to not care for me and I realize that I'm not for everybody, so I dont let other peoples opinions of me affect my life in any way.

You do not know me, but people who know me well on this MB know me for who I am, a loving caring person, who has truly been blessed.

Back to topic, JM chose the whirldwind and seems to be more comfortable in it. You cant seem to accept the fact that he likes it this way and has lived this way all of his life and aint changing for anybody.

Be a hater if you will, be the guy is a winner on the field and that's what the game should be all about. This isn't church league softball we are talking about. College football is a multi billion $$$$ business and JM seems to know this better than most.
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manziel keeps this up he'd be twerking with miley cyrus in no time.
kid's gotten big-headed. stay humble and grounded. arrogance ultimately leads you to a train-wreck.
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He was cocky in high shool too. He had some slight issues off the field in Kerrville too.

Really is nothing new. On the field is the bet place for him where he can focus
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manziel keeps this up he'd be twerking with miley cyrus in no time.
kid's gotten big-headed. stay humble and grounded. arrogance ultimately leads you to a train-wreck.
Talk about the media making a mountain out of a molehill? What did he do that so awful? OMG, rice players were talking smack and making a signing motion and he did it back and pointed to the scoreboard. THE HORROR!

The refs were watching him all game long for something to flag. In the first half after a score he ran down with other players on the sideline and jump-bumped the player who scored and the ref grabbed him and told him to back to the sideline. Just him, even though there were many others there also.

Espn is trying to make everything manziel does villianous when it steps away from what thy want to see, which is him completely humbled and not doing anything special. Hell, Paul finebaum said today that respecting the opponent and not talking trash is "sacrosanct" in college football. Gimme a damn break.

Take manziel's name off the jersey and put it on any other player and he does the same thing and there would be no story or mention about it anywhere. Manziel is now public enemy #1 And they will bash him if he sneezes without a tissue.
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What I find sort of hilarious about this is that a lot of the people in here who criticize Manziel for talking trash in a game don't even notice it happening in every game they watch between opponents. It happens that much, that you hardly notice it. Hell, half of the people in here who are critizing Manziel for talking trash on the field applauded Andre Johnson for trying to bash a guy's skull in on the field on a Sunday afternoon.

Double standards I tell ya.
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He did the "money" gesture all last year and NOTHING was said about it. He is ACCUSED of taking money, NEVER HAS BEEN PROVEN, and NOW it is seen immature and selfish?

What the F ever....

Rice wants to talk crap, and they got b slapped. WHO THE HELL IS RICE to be talking crap to anybody? They are Rice....

I was at the game, low enough to see players, and saw Rice jawing at Manziel while he was walking back to the huddle, on Manziel's second play. So Manziel is suppose to just get, walk back and not say anything?

Obviously you never played football before.
It's the combination of everything he did, it was very assholish. Actually, I did play high school football, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Get over your homerism. If you can't admit the kid is immature, you're blind as a bat. Quit cursing in caps, you look like a angry child. Lol @ "Rice got b slapped." Duh genius, Rice sucks.

Why is it necessary for a Heisman trophy winner to talk **** to Rice, as you say? It's rice, they aren't even remotely close to being ranked, they probably aren't even a winning team this year. Teams looking for the upset ALWAYS talk crap, it's the nature of football. Mature players, especially quarterbacks, don't allow it to bother them or poke at their ego. Ya, he's supposed to ignore them, that's what 95% of quarterbacks for big schools do. Big school QBs are supposed to be above petty crap.

I understand that A&M is on the big stage now and it is new to them. Sorry if your coach and neutral observers understand how this was an immature showing on Manziel's part.

All the Aggie fans here complaining about ESPN is laughable. Welcome to the big time, where ESPN actually pays attention to your program and debates the actions of your players. You aren't getting special negative treatment, get over yourselves.
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Hitler was cocky too, we all know how that turned out.
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Hitler was cocky too, we all know how that turned out.
Hitler and Manziel?

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Show me where I've shown nothing but class on this MB? Yes, I've disagreed with the way the Texans do businees as a team. But nothing personal. You seem to not care for me and I realize that I'm not for everybody, so I dont let other peoples opinions of me affect my life in any way.
What the ...

I don't know how you got the idea that was casting aspersions on your character. I was referring to Manziel's lack humility and class, not yours. No, there's nothing personal. Yeah, I disagree with you with almost everything, but I disagree with everyone around here with almost everything. But it's nothing more than than that.
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Talk about the media making a mountain out of a molehill? What did he do that so awful? OMG, rice players were talking smack and making a signing motion and he did it back and pointed to the scoreboard. THE HORROR!

The refs were watching him all game long for something to flag. In the first half after a score he ran down with other players on the sideline and jump-bumped the player who scored and the ref grabbed him and told him to back to the sideline. Just him, even though there were many others there also.

Espn is trying to make everything manziel does villianous when it steps away from what thy want to see, which is him completely humbled and not doing anything special. Hell, Paul finebaum said today that respecting the opponent and not talking trash is "sacrosanct" in college football. Gimme a damn break.

Take manziel's name off the jersey and put it on any other player and he does the same thing and there would be no story or mention about it anywhere. Manziel is now public enemy #1 And they will bash him if he sneezes without a tissue.
Sumlin didn't seem thrilled at all with what manziel did.

Maybe he hates him too.
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It's the combination of everything he did, it was very assholish. Actually, I did play high school football, but what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Get over your homerism. If you can't admit the kid is immature, you're blind as a bat. Quit cursing in caps, you look like a angry child. Lol @ "Rice got b slapped." Duh genius, Rice sucks.

Why is it necessary for a Heisman trophy winner to talk **** to Rice, as you say? It's rice, they aren't even remotely close to being ranked, they probably aren't even a winning team this year. Teams looking for the upset ALWAYS talk crap, it's the nature of football. Mature players, especially quarterbacks, don't allow it to bother them or poke at their ego. Ya, he's supposed to ignore them, that's what 95% of quarterbacks for big schools do. Big school QBs are supposed to be above petty crap.

I understand that A&M is on the big stage now and it is new to them. Sorry if your coach and neutral observers understand how this was an immature showing on Manziel's part.

All the Aggie fans here complaining about ESPN is laughable. Welcome to the big time, where ESPN actually pays attention to your program and debates the actions of your players. You aren't getting special negative treatment, get over yourselves.
Don't you feel just the slightest responsibility though to be smarter than the ignorant media that is clearly trying to find any kind of "gotcha" story they can on Manziel and criticize the media for this more then Manziel? I mean, I won't argue that he is sort of immature and he does make a few poor decisions considering the spotlight and all, but Manziel has become the new Tebow, and instead of blasting him for praying after TD's and other Christian like stuff, they're attempting to find any type of scandal they can to bring the kid down. Why is it that people even give the media like ESPN even the platform to suc people into this kind of trash? Personally I don't want to hear all this crap abut Manziel even if he is breaking the law every other day. Suspend his ass and move on to stories with players that are playing and teams that are important.

I get sick and tired of hearing people act as enablers for the media in America by continually bashing the people they have a witch hunt for just because the media says so. By saying "well this kid needs to know that anything he does is going to get miscroscoped and overly criticized" is in essence sticking up for the media's tactics and being okay with their garbage. How about we all stop getting sucked into these witch hunts by ESPN in our sports world and let Fox News and CNN tow that line for politics. It seems more and more like you fans want to treat athletes like politicians instead of young athletes who play a freaking sport for a living.
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Manziel's a-hole behavior is described as"swag" by the people who defend him. Lol. Just remember, he can't wait to get out of college station. He has too much "swag" for Kyle field
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Manziel's a-hole behavior is described as"swag" by the people who defend him. Lol. Just remember, he can't wait to get out of college station. He has too much "swag" for Kyle field
Other then acting unprofessional at the Manning camp, what is his ******* behavior that he has displayed that is so different then every other college QB? Please don't bring up talking trash to other opponents on the field either, because that is one of the silliest things the media has used to date on this guy.
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They knew they didn't stand a chance so they we're lookintg for every advantage they could get & the bolded is the exact reason y he should've just shut his damn pie hole.

You're just supposed to at them with your teammates point at the scoreboard & keep it moving. No response needed. I mean It's akin to you as a human talking smack to an ant just b/c it crawled up on your ankle unsuspectingly & bit you instead of just brushing it off and/or stepping on it.

What the hell do you have to gain by talking smack to them? It's shows how weak-minded he is that he has to do that kind of crap to such a lowly opponent. Reminds me of the last time UT played U of H here in Houston in football..Obnoxious fans from Austin arrive screaming "we're gonna kill you guys!!!!!!" & I'm thinking "well genius...you should kill us you're ranked in the top 5 and we're no where close to being ranked morons...."

Its clear you haven't won much in team sports.
Says the U of H fan....What have they EVER won in football?

and it's clear you sat on the bench. No football player with any kind of passion allows ANYBODY to talk smack to them, period. If you're man enough to deal it, better be man enough to take it.

Weak mined, seriously? Immature, sure but weak minded is a stretch. I saw Alabama players last year whoop up on folks, STILL talking smack. Guess they're weak minded as well?

Rice should have came in, taking their ass whoopin and left town and not said a damn thing....
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Dont matter to me what Manziel does, IMO he will turn out to be J Russell all over again. I dont see his "talent" transfering to NFL success.

So sure let him make money off signing his john handcock, whatever.
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I get sick and tired of hearing people act as enablers for the media in America by continually bashing the people they have a witch hunt for just because the media says so. By saying "well this kid needs to know that anything he does is going to get miscroscoped and overly criticized" is in essence sticking up for the media's tactics and being okay with their garbage. How about we all stop getting sucked into these witch hunts by ESPN in our sports world and let Fox News and CNN tow that line for politics. It seems more and more like you fans want to treat athletes like politicians instead of young athletes who play a freaking sport for a living.
I understand what you're saying, Tex, but it's completely unrealistic to think that the way the media conducts itself is going to change. That is something that is beyond your control. What you can control is recognizing the fact that you are no longer a private citizen. You are a public figure. You're no less a public figure than any politician or Hollywood actor. And when you become a public figure, the only control you have over that, is making sure you don't say or do anything that will be perceived the wrong way. As a public figure, that is your responsibility.
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ESPN Needs some anti-Tebow news


News these days are like "reality tv". Take all the footage and people can create an image by showing specific pieces of info and paint a picture to fit their agenda.
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Don't you feel just the slightest responsibility though to be smarter than the ignorant media that is clearly trying to find any kind of "gotcha" story they can on Manziel and criticize the media for this more then Manziel? I mean, I won't argue that he is sort of immature and he does make a few poor decisions considering the spotlight and all, but Manziel has become the new Tebow, and instead of blasting him for praying after TD's and other Christian like stuff, they're attempting to find any type of scandal they can to bring the kid down. Why is it that people even give the media like ESPN even the platform to suc people into this kind of trash? Personally I don't want to hear all this crap abut Manziel even if he is breaking the law every other day. Suspend his ass and move on to stories with players that are playing and teams that are important.

I get sick and tired of hearing people act as enablers for the media in America by continually bashing the people they have a witch hunt for just because the media says so. By saying "well this kid needs to know that anything he does is going to get miscroscoped and overly criticized" is in essence sticking up for the media's tactics and being okay with their garbage. How about we all stop getting sucked into these witch hunts by ESPN in our sports world and let Fox News and CNN tow that line for politics. It seems more and more like you fans want to treat athletes like politicians instead of young athletes who play a freaking sport for a living.
This stuff happens when you are a famous player on a big time program. It comes with the territory. Nobody cared when Manziel was arrested last year (something he managed to avoid this offseason), because he wasn't even the starting quarterback at the time. When you are the defending Heisman winner and your team is in the hunt for the title, ESPN is going to talk about you. A lot. Doesn't matter whether you are choir boy Tebow or rebel Johnny.


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Sumlin didn't seem thrilled at all with what manziel did.

Maybe he hates him too.

He looked pissed. Part of me thinks Sumlin would rather have Case Keenum as his QB.
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Originally Posted by Texecutioner View Post
Don't you feel just the slightest responsibility though to be smarter than the ignorant media that is clearly trying to find any kind of "gotcha" story they can on Manziel and criticize the media for this more then Manziel? I mean, I won't argue that he is sort of immature and he does make a few poor decisions considering the spotlight and all, but Manziel has become the new Tebow, and instead of blasting him for praying after TD's and other Christian like stuff, they're attempting to find any type of scandal they can to bring the kid down. Why is it that people even give the media like ESPN even the platform to suc people into this kind of trash? Personally I don't want to hear all this crap abut Manziel even if he is breaking the law every other day. Suspend his ass and move on to stories with players that are playing and teams that are important.

I get sick and tired of hearing people act as enablers for the media in America by continually bashing the people they have a witch hunt for just because the media says so. By saying "well this kid needs to know that anything he does is going to get miscroscoped and overly criticized" is in essence sticking up for the media's tactics and being okay with their garbage. How about we all stop getting sucked into these witch hunts by ESPN in our sports world and let Fox News and CNN tow that line for politics. It seems more and more like you fans want to treat athletes like politicians instead of young athletes who play a freaking sport for a living.
So be sick and tired then. I don't watch ESPN debate shows. I've seen nothing in regards to reporting on the way Manziel was acting. I watched the game and formed my own opinion. Believe it or not, people do form their own opinions and don't need to watch ESPN talk shows in order to do that. How about you guys just take people's opinion for their opinion and quit blaming ESPN? Y'all sound crazily paranoid.


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Originally Posted by BullNation4Life View Post
Says the U of H fan....What have they EVER won in football?

and it's clear you sat on the bench. No football player with any kind of passion allows ANYBODY to talk smack to them, period. If you're man enough to deal it, better be man enough to take it.

Weak mined, seriously? Immature, sure but weak minded is a stretch. I saw Alabama players last year whoop up on folks, STILL talking smack. Guess they're weak minded as well?

Rice should have came in, taking their ass whoopin and left town and not said a damn thing....

Wow, maturity is clearly not something you are going to be able to decipher.
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