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Old 08-31-2013   #461
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I'm not saying he didn't benefit. You're the one claiming "less talent around him". I'm merely pointing out that Keenum played in a WAY weaker conference. 345 yards against the best defense and top tanked team is what cemented Maziel's Heisman...that and facing 6 ranked teams last season.

How many Heisman's did Keenum win in his 6 years as an NCAA QB?
The only game he looked like a heisman candidate was the bama game...all the other games against the sec ranked teams he looked average to below average.

The bama game played its role, but people were already propping him up as a candidate largely b/c of his numbers citing Cam Newton's heisman campaign numbers.. Either way are u really gonna deny that keenum had less talent around him than manziel?

what exactly does keenum's inability to win a heisman prove anyway? Voter bias against the smaller conferences? The heisman's been a joke for years now anyway... Really since they've made it an offensive award and Suh got robbed. For Keenum to even get in the convo for Hiesman was a monumental feat in and of itself comsidering the what he was up against with the voters..
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Just because I think the kid can play & enjoy watching him play, doesn't mean I think he's the second coming of anybody.

So get yer panties out of your wad & get those SEC nutts off yer chin & just watch it be what it be.
Lol. I don't like any SEC team. Just saying the kid is a train wreck waiting to happen. That's why people like yourself tune in.
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Wow. Some of you people have straight up lost your minds. If he beats 'Bama nobody gives a **** what kind of penalty he got against Rice today. I'm not completely against drafting a high round QB and I hope that Manziel does well enough that we don't have worry about whether the Texans draft him or not.
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He better get mentaly prepared. He is going to get a lot of trash talk throughout the season

Rice band wears shirts with manziel's signature,plus lots of autograph talk by rice (reportedly)
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Personally, I don't have a problem with much of what he did. I think it was stupid, but football is a game of passion. Part of what makes Manziel so good is his erratic behavior and his passion. He wants to win, and he wants to embarrass you while doing it. If that makes him a better football player, I'm all for it. How many of us would be arrogant pieces of dung if we had his God given athletic abilities?

I think he is sick of people giving him a hard time about everything he does. Before the autograph thing people were drilling him about his partying. He is living the life of a rock star and if we were in his position, most of us would be living it up too! As long as none of this effects his play on the field, who the f cares?!?
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Personally, I don't have a problem with much of what he did. I think it was stupid, but football is a game of passion. Part of what makes Manziel so good is his erratic behavior and his passion. He wants to win, and he wants to embarrass you while doing it. If that makes him a better football player, I'm all for it. How many of us would be arrogant pieces of dung if we had his God given athletic abilities?

I think he is sick of people giving him a hard time about everything he does. Before the autograph thing people were drilling him about his partying. He is living the life of a rock star and if we were in his position, most of us would be living it up too! As long as none of this effects his play on the field, who the f cares?!?
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Manziel is becoming a Kardashian.
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6-8 for 94 yards & 3 TDs


Yeah, the kid can play.
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This should be all that really matters.

I find it hilarious that the talking heads at BSPN are now the moral compass of sports. LOL (Sean check out my junk Salisbury)
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Lol. I don't like any SEC team. Just saying the kid is a train wreck waiting to happen. That's why people like yourself tune in.
Why dont you like SEC football?

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What was A&M football before Manziel?

How many confrence championships has Sumlin won?
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I just find it really amusing how ESPN is now claiming to be some kind of moral compass. A football player talking a little trash. He's such a terrible human being! He is a spoiled brat, but all this fuss is stupid IMO.

Edit: Damn steelbtexan I swear I wrote this message without even seeing yours. Crazy how we were thinking the exact same thing though.
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What was A&M football before Manziel?

How many confrence championships has Sumlin won?
What are you on about? A&M Football has been good, decent, never particularly spectacular before Manziel. They've had good years and bad years, but it's not like they were some crap program that came out of nowhere with Manziel.
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What are you on about? A&M Football has been good, decent, never particularly spectacular before Manziel. They've had good years and bad years, but it's not like they were some crap program that came out of nowhere with Manziel.
You mean avg to below avg for a decade?

Weren't even on the national radar? Where was ESPN before JM?

Before JM what was their highest national ranking? With JM top 10. When was the last time A&M was ranked in the top 10? Slocum yrs, and even then they didn't get the type of exposure the JM is bringing them.

Is he a cocky turd? Probably

Is he the best thing that has happened to A&M football in 50 yrs. Yep. The funny thing is that some at A&M would rather have a medicore football team than have a guy like JM leading their team. Be careful of what they wish for. I mean it's only been half a century since John David Crow called College Station home. (The last time A&M was truly relevant on the college football scene.) Yes I remember the Wrecking Crew yrs. But they were never true NC contenders that teams of the caliber of Alabama respected. Now they are. Why 1 reason Johnny Football.
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The Rice Football player Johnny Manziel was talking to said Manizel just told him "nice hit"
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The Rice Football player Johnny Manziel was talking to said Manizel just told him "nice hit"
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that was not the play that got the flag
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that was not the play that got the flag
That's correct....... It was on the play where he did his little signature thing in the air. On the one where he got the penalty, we used to tell guys to look at the scoreboard all the time when they were talking trash to us. He's under a microscope right now so it wasn't smart for him to do it in front of 2 refs, but it's not that big of a deal. I like the way he carries himself on the field personally. I think the word swagger gets overused, but thats exactly what he gives that team.
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You mean avg to below avg for a decade?

Weren't even on the national radar? Where was ESPN before JM?

Before JM what was their highest national ranking? With JM top 10. When was the last time A&M was ranked in the top 10? Slocum yrs, and even then they didn't get the type of exposure the JM is bringing them.

Is he a cocky turd? Probably

Is he the best thing that has happened to A&M football in 50 yrs. Yep. The funny thing is that some at A&M would rather have a medicore football team than have a guy like JM leading their team. Be careful of what they wish for. I mean it's only been half a century since John David Crow called College Station home. (The last time A&M was truly relevant on the college football scene.) Yes I remember the Wrecking Crew yrs. But they were never true NC contenders that teams of the caliber of Alabama respected. Now they are. Why 1 reason Johnny Football.
I summed up basically everything you said in much less - good years, bad years, decent team. Perhaps not nationally exposed, but they were decent.

I'm not arguing that Johnny Manziel didn't put A&M's name on the map, but lets not pretend A&M football was like some division II program no one had ever heard of either. I don't think we'd be in national title contention prior to Manziel, but the switch to the SEC and Manziel's success has brewed the perfect storm in winning A&M some great recruiting ammo. If A&M can capitalize on this success, they'll be good to great for years, without Manziel.

After this year, their fresh young defense will be experienced. The offense is beyond stacked, and Kyle Allen will be on campus eventually. A&M holds the cards, they just have to not screw up in playing them.
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How many confrence championships has Sumlin won?
More than what the team he beat this weekend is.
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After taking a peek at the Texans roster, all I know is they grow some talented feet over there in College Station.

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