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Old 08-31-2013   #701
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The team that couldn't carry Bret Favre to the play offs just happen to be handing out free rides to the AFC Championship game?

Rex Ryan took over the team and the D went from #18 to #1. The O went from #9 to #17. Those are on points.
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The team that couldn't carry Bret Favre to the play offs just happen to be handing out free rides to the AFC Championship game?

"dennis goes to the dentist"


Is this real life.

My god You Really hate Luck don't you?
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Three years from now if Luck is putting up the same numbers, he won't be a starter.
The only numbers that really count are wins and losses. If, three years from now, Luck is at the helm of a team that is still posting double digit wins AND finding a way to squeak into the playoffs, he'll still be starting.

So will Russell Wilson, Colin Kaepernick, and RGIII.

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I AM convinced that the Colts' success last year was due, in no insignificant part, to them playing for their coach who was battling cancer. Luck didn't hurt them ...much but he didn't "carry" them as some talking heads are giving him credit for doing. That emotional wave they rode last year won't be in play this year.
Plus teams have a whole year of "tape" on Luck himself.
Let's see what happens.

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Is Luck a backup QB for the Texans now?

In other news, let's cut Keenum and bring back Carr.
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The only numbers that really count are wins and losses. If, three years from now, Luck is at the helm of a team that is still posting double digit wins AND finding a way to squeak into the playoffs, he'll still be starting.
I agree with that & addressed it with the Mark Sanchez comparison... the Jets are paying for that now.
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Is Luck a backup QB for the Texans now?

In other news, let's cut Keenum and bring back Carr.
I really don't care whether Case is the back up, or Yates. I think either has the talent & tools to replace Matt (when that day comes). But I know the odds are that neither of them will.

It would be better for the Texans if they can play in this league. If Matt is to be replaced by either of these guys, I hope it is truly an upgrade, not just in mobility & want to, but in efficiency & competitiveness as well.

To me, Yates looks like a baller, Keenum looks like a winner. I'm glad they're both here.

& who knows, chances are I'm wrong & Kubiak names Keenum the back up for Sept 9.
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The only numbers that really count are wins and losses.
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Default Re: Case Keenum grabs early edge in Texans backup QB

Guess we are to the point where the most popular person is the QB...and when the backup becomes the starting QB, we still love our backup
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The only numbers that really count are wins and losses.
That is the most abused stat ever. Wins and losses are pure TEAM stats. I hate it when QB's are credited with them. Head coaches, OK. They have a big role in both sides of the ball. Honestly, W-L's should be used to judge HC's and GM's and nothing more. I have yet to see a QB throw a hail mary to himself for a game winning TD.
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How many people feel that when we're facing Sanchez when we're playing against Luck and the Colts? (since both QBs are comparable.. like Luck is to Tebow, Gabbert, and now Sanchez), if you do.. raise your hands

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Kubes will prob do the safe move

and just keep 2 QB's Matt and TJ and put Chase back on the PS team and just gamble and hope he clears waivers .... if not o wellnice knowing u Kase maybe he could come back in 2 years or somethin if it does not work out where ever he goes
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Kubes will prob do the safe move

and just keep 2 QB's Matt and TJ and put Chase back on the PS team and just gamble and hope he clears waivers .... if not o wellnice knowing u Kase maybe he could come back in 2 years or somethin if it does not work out where ever he goes
Your time zone is AFU. Kubiak kept all three hours ago.
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Kubes will prob do the safe move

and just keep 2 QB's Matt and TJ and put Chase back on the PS team and just gamble and hope he clears waivers .... if not o wellnice knowing u Kase maybe he could come back in 2 years or somethin if it does not work out where ever he goes
where have u been? lol
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so its final aren't there ore cuts ..???
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so its final aren't there ore cuts ..???
Only if they want to alter the roster by picking up another player. These 53 have their salaries guaranteed for the year.
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Only if they want to alter the roster by picking up another player. These 53 have their salaries guaranteed for the year.
Only players with 4 years or more of service will have their contracts guaranteed for the year.
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Only players with 4 years or more of service will have their contracts guaranteed for the year.
Which makes it applicable to only 20 players (give or take) on the Texans current 53 man roster.

In regard to his point about cuts only being needed "if they want to alter the roster by picking up another player" that's almost true. They're going to have to let someone go after week one when Antonio Smith's suspension is over. While I would be extremely surprised if that ended up being Case, it's gonna be someone (and FWIW, my guess is either Cody White or Andrew Gardner).
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Didn't know that. Thanks! MSR. Always thought that once you've made the original 53, you got paid for the year.
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How many people feel that when we're facing Sanchez when we're playing against Luck and the Colts? (since both QBs are comparable.. like Luck is to Tebow, Gabbert, and now Sanchez), if you do.. raise your hands
This discussion really belongs in another thread
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Your time zone is AFU. Kubiak kept all three hours ago.
I don't think it's going to happen, but when Antonio's suspension is over, they can cut Case & sign him to the practice squad if he clears waivers, & if Case's Agent can't do his job. If I were Case I wouldn't sign to the practice squad.

But someone else mentioned it. Most teams will probably have their plans set in stone more or less by week 2. Not sure if Case has shown enough in preseason to make them change those plans that late. If one of his UH coaches were to be in the NFL I could see it, but as far as I know, they're still at UH or A&M.
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