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Old 08-30-2013   #81
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I said this in the game thread that I'd prefer Wood, love the way the guy runs. I also like how he fits in our team name scheme in how people are always going to call him "Woods" instead of Wood, which is his last name.
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Did Cierre Wood do any returns this preseason? All things being equal, even if Karim played against tougher competition, Karim did return KOs.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ohnson-can-do/

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“I know what we’ve got with him,” Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. “I wanted to see what the young guys could do.”
Wood certainly made a case to be on the roster. No denying that. I like our top 4 RB.
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Did Cierre Wood do any returns this preseason? All things being equal, even if Karim played against tougher competition, Karim did return KOs.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans...ohnson-can-do/



Wood certainly made a case to be on the roster. No denying that. I like our top 4 RB.
To me, I don't even care if someone can return kickoffs. Marciano couldn't make the best kick returner in the NFL look good last year. We honestly shouldn't even take a ball out of the EZ. If we even have a decent kick return it'd be negated by a block in the back anyway.
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I dont understand the love for these RBs. We find several every year that show promise. They are not good enough to take up a roster spot. Cierre Wood and DJ need to be cut and signed to the practice squad if they clear waivers. We have 2 very talented RBs and DK has skills and experience. Even if they get signed to someone elses active roster I am sure we can find another group of young runners who will thrive in our run system.
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I dont understand the love for these RBs. We find several every year that show promise. They are not good enough to take up a roster spot. Cierre Wood and DJ need to be cut and signed to the practice squad if they clear waivers. We have 2 very talented RBs and DK has skills and experience. Even if they get signed to someone elses active roster I am sure we can find another group of young runners who will thrive in our run system.


THAT is not our system. That is a damn good RB! Wood goes to waivers he is gone. Packers, Skins or even the Broncos grab him.
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I dont understand the love for these RBs. We find several every year that show promise. They are not good enough to take up a roster spot. Cierre Wood and DJ need to be cut and signed to the practice squad if they clear waivers. We have 2 very talented RBs and DK has skills and experience. Even if they get signed to someone elses active roster I am sure we can find another group of young runners who will thrive in our run system.
Sounds like you'd have let Arian go when he was just starting out.
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THAT is not our system. That is a damn good RB! Wood goes to waivers he is gone. Packers, Skins or even the Broncos grab him.
The Packers have Eddie Lacey, Jonathan Franklin and James Stark. Skins have Morris, Royster and Helu. Montee Ball, Jacob Hester, Moreno and Hillman. They are not worried about Cierre Wood. They have their own young talent to worry about keeping.

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Sounds like you'd have let Arian go when he was just starting out.
Umm Foster was waived in 2009 and signed to PS. So yea.

I feel that you guys are assigning too much value to a 4th string player.
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Umm Foster was waived in 2009 and signed to PS. So yea.

I feel that you guys are assigning too much value to a 4th string player.
We were lucky no one picked him up, wouldn't you say? If someone did and then he blew up for another team we'd be talking about the mistake we made.

Wood has show a bit more, plus the Team has a spotlight on them now. We might not be so lucky the next time.

And as far as value on a 4th string player, I think he's a better runner than Karim and if Tate is gone after this year I think he might be able to challenge for the back-up role.

I think you're too consumed with what you believe he is right now instead of how he could possibly do to help the team in the future.
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We were lucky no one picked him up, wouldn't you say? If someone did and then he blew up for another team we'd be talking about the mistake we made.

Wood has show a bit more, plus the Team has a spotlight on them now. We might not be so lucky the next time.

And as far as value on a 4th string player, I think he's a better runner than Karim and if Tate is gone after this year I think he might be able to challenge for the back-up role.
My point is still valid. We put Foster on the PS. We can put Wood or DJ there too. Kubiak didnt even play DK, essentailly showing his hand and telling us who he likes more for this football team. If Wood was all that he would have kept him over DK. But he didnt. He and the rest of the NFL value experience and reliability when they give them the ball.

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I think you're too consumed with what you believe he is right now instead of how he could possibly do to help the team in the future.
Kubiak just said that he has 75 players that can play in the NFL, just not for the Texans. Cuts are hard. There are alot of young guys that can help this team in the future, but we just do not have the room to keep them and protect and nurture them on the active roster. You have to take risks just like we did with Foster and keenum on the PS.
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I dont understand the love for these RBs. We find several every year that show promise. They are not good enough to take up a roster spot. Cierre Wood and DJ need to be cut and signed to the practice squad if they clear waivers. We have 2 very talented RBs and DK has skills and experience. Even if they get signed to someone elses active roster I am sure we can find another group of young runners who will thrive in our run system.
Did you say the same thing when we picked up Foster as an UFDA? We all know that they can find other young RB's that will thrive in the system, but they have to keep looking for the next Arian Foster. And, the only way to do that is to let the ones "that show promise" play it out on the field and see what they have. Just because "they are not good enough to take up a roster spot" now doesn't mean they won't be good enough to play for the Texans later.
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I don't think I agree with a single point Blake was trying to make. since we're so far apart I think I'll just tip my hat and bid good day
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I guess we will just have to wait and see what the coach does.
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We were lucky no one picked him up, wouldn't you say?
Not really. In the 2009 preseason Foster had 23 att, for 66 yds at 2.9 ypc and 0 TDs.

2013 Wood - 35 att. for 191 yds at 5.5 ypc and 0 TDs.
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Not really. In the 2009 preseason Foster had 23 att, for 66 yds at 2.9 ypc and 0 TDs.

2013 Wood - 35 att. for 191 yds at 5.5 ypc and 0 TDs.
That was actually one of my points that Wood has shown more, but when I say we were lucky, I mean that no one saw enough potential there to grab him and place him on their roster.
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THAT is not our system. That is a damn good RB! Wood goes to waivers he is gone. Packers, Skins or even the Broncos grab him.
I agree. Cierre Wood is going to be special.

& that is not our system & I hope 67 (Cody White) & 62 (Alex Kupper) get shown the F out the door. I'd have left them in Dallas
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Did you say the same thing when we picked up Foster as an UFDA? We all know that they can find other young RB's that will thrive in the system, but they have to keep looking for the next Arian Foster. And, the only way to do that is to let the ones "that show promise" play it out on the field and see what they have. Just because "they are not good enough to take up a roster spot" now doesn't mean they won't be good enough to play for the Texans later.
I don't remember either Foster or Jeremiah looking as good as Cierre Wood in the preseason. If they did, I don't think we'd have cut them.


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They have to decide if he's worth the roster spot to be NEVER be activated on gameday. He will never get to carry the ball and apparently isn't too great on special teams. Will they risk it?

Carrying 3 QBs already makes it complicated.
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They have to decide if he's worth the roster spot to be NEVER be activated on gameday. He will never get to carry the ball
Running back is one of the most injury prone positions in the league. Tate was hurt last year, Foster hasn't taken a snap in pre-season. Personally, I would keep him over Karim, as I don't think he would clear waivers.
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Wood has a ton of upside in this system. He thrived in it at Notre Dame and looks even better now at the professional level. I was a big fan of his coming out of school and he's a perfect fit for the offense.

This is a long-term decision. If you think he has the ability to replace Tate next year then you keep him on the roster because he's not clearing waivers. He was a draftable talent coming out this year, no idea how he went undrafted but I'm glad he did.
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