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Old 08-27-2013   #621
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Cleared or not, I would sit him Thursday.
I'd give him another week of recovery time.
And give Cruse, Lemon, and EZ one last shot to stick around or at least be brought back to the P/S.
I would share your feelings. His first concussion being a knock out. Now this one being caused by a relatively mild trauma. The extra reps he gets against 3rd and 4th stringers......most of which will be watching games this season from their couches........he will be just as challenged as if he were running routes in practice without his team mates trying to lay him out. With a history of past concussions, protocols should be adjusted to lengthen the time from phase 4 to 5 to ultimate return to game play. Missing this game to let his brain regain its normal metabolic processes decreases the chance that he sustains another concussion following lesser trauma......a concussion which will surely take him out of competition for quite a while.....and make him 3-9 times more likely to sustain a fourth. He may be fortunate if put out there, and he makes it through the game without incident. But if they stick him out there this Thursday, I would truthfully have to wonder who else got hit in the head to make that decision.
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Maybe we can make a fan wide plea on the twitterverse to keep Hopkins from playing game 4
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As a sophomore at Clemson, DeAndre Hopkins suffered a concussion in an automobile accident on his way to Memorial Stadium for the Orange Bowl against West Virginia.
The crash happened on December 27, 2011. Police said Hopkins was "knocked unconscious" after hitting a wet patch in the road. "He started out in the front seat and the car spun around and went up a tree and he ended up in the backseat," described Hopkins' mother. Hopkins still played in the bowl game. Now an NFL rookie, Hopkins has been slow to recover from an August 17 concussion. Aug 28 - 7:59 AM
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Maybe we can make a fan wide plea on the twitterverse to keep Hopkins from playing game 4
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As a sophomore at Clemson, DeAndre Hopkins suffered a concussion in an automobile accident on his way to Memorial Stadium for the Orange Bowl against West Virginia.
The crash happened on December 27, 2011. Police said Hopkins was "knocked unconscious" after hitting a wet patch in the road. "He started out in the front seat and the car spun around and went up a tree and he ended up in the backseat," described Hopkins' mother. Hopkins still played in the bowl game. Now an NFL rookie, Hopkins has been slow to recover from an August 17 concussion. Aug 28 - 7:59 AM
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Is this news? News to me. Scratch that just read a few posts back.
Just saw this on Rotoworld too. That's scary. Had no clue about the guy.
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DeAndre Hopkins has been totally cleared to return to practice. Good chance he plays Thursday. #Texans1:33 PM - 27 Aug 2013
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DeAndre Hopkins has been totally cleared to return to practice. Good chance he plays Thursday. #Texan1s1:33 PM - 27 Aug 203
"Totally cleared to return to practice" leaves it unclear as to non-contact or contact practice. And with a Thursday game, when would he have had an opportunity to participate in a contact practice? From after yesterday's practice:
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(on if WR DeAndre Hopkins has progressed in the protocol stages of his concussion) “Yeah, he’s doing good. He has not been totally cleared to return to practice. That could happen tomorrow. I want to say he’s in like stage four right now. He did do a lot of work today with the trainers.”
Either way, if we see him against the Cowboys, I stand on my previous statement that someone in the coaching staff or the front office must have also taken a hit to the head.
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"totally cleared to return to practice" leaves it unclear as to non-contact or contact practice. And with a Thursday game, when would he have had an opportunity to participate in a contact practice?

Either way, if we see him against the Cowboys, I stand on my previous statement that someone in the coaching staff or the front office must have also taken a hit to the head.
Posting info but 100% agree we don't need to see him on field tomorrow and maybe not first game. Allow Jean and Martin to get the reps against Dallas. This could also be for concussions
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I'll believe it when the NFL announces the fine. The protocol is not discretionary with the teams.
Fine for what - what rule would be broken assuming that the tweets are accurate?
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Fine for what - what rule would be broken assuming that the tweets are accurate?
Players have to complete all five steps of the protocol to play. The last step is being cleared by the Texans medical staff and an independent physician.
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But he didn't play did he?
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But he didn't play did he?
My bad then. I thought someone said he was out there for a few plays.
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My bad then. I thought someone said he was out there for a few plays.
There was talk of it if he was cleared, but from the sounds of it, they didn't even try to clear him in time to play.
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"Totally cleared to return to practice" leaves it unclear as to non-contact or contact practice. And with a Thursday game, when would he have had an opportunity to participate in a contact practice? From after yesterday's practice:

Either way, if we see him against the Cowboys, I stand on my previous statement that someone in the coaching staff or the front office must have also taken a hit to the head.
As I tried to point out before, this was reported by Tania Ganguli on Tues after practice. Kubiak later said he was in (not necessarily passed) Phase 4. The "clearance" could have only been for Phase 4 (non-contact practice). With a Thursday game, you know there was no way there would have been a contact practice on Wednesday for him to even try to test out a Phase 5 (even if he had passed Phase 4). He could have never been cleared prior to the Cowboys game. On top of that, we haven't really been told to date whether he ever passed his Phase 4 without recurrence of symptoms. It seems that the media and Kubiak have questionable understanding of the workings of the Concussion Protocol.
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...It seems that the media and Kubiak have questionable understanding of the workings of the Concussion Protocol.
Agree, although I'm guessing Kubiak is the culprit and media just pukes out what he says.

I just hope Nuk isn't hiding symptoms, and Texans aren't rushing him.
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