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Old 08-20-2013   #61
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OLB is still a big question mark for me and probably will continue to be through the season. I think we'll see several players rotating through out the season until someone steps up. Hopefully, Reed and Mercilus will take the lead but at this point I don't have a lot of confidence in either and having a bunch of mid-round draft picks and undrafted free agents doesn't help the situation. Overall, I think the defense will struggle this year. Just too many question marks in a lot of critical areas.
I have to strongly agree with this general concept. Reed and Mercilus don't fill me with any confidence, and Montgomery and T. Williams are a disappointment as well. Tuggle and Jefferson are at least a step in the right direction and I can see these guys being used rotationally very often. Tuggle and Jefferson being far ahead of Montgomery and T. Williams also makes me question our scouting dept. and draft evaluation process. It seems that Connor Barwin wasn't so easy to replace after all. I agree with Nawzer, I think our defense will struggle this year.
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Cushing healthy is the 2nd most important player on defense IMO . The OLB position is behind where it should be even if Mercilus was healthy . It was that way last year and they added rookies .
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Oh...and I'm not worried about the inside guys. Those guys are going to make some plays this season. Cush, mays and sharpton is a solid trio of inside guys. Dobbins is gravy.
I feel the same way.

If Wade likes the idea of moving Brooks inside, that threatens Dobbins imo. It would allow us to keep an extra OLB.

If they like Mike Mohamed playing inside/outside, even worse for Dobbins.

& if it were my roster, I'd let Dobbins go, keep Mohamed.
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I can't keep Mohammed over big dob. I think Mohammed can be put on ps. And dob has shown some serious short yardage thumping ability. Plus he is supposedly good on special teams.
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Maybe the last two pre-season games will decide something differently, but Tuggle has played with the 1's the first two games, and I can't see where he has hurt himself. Jefferson keeps flashing, and has a very sorely-needed skill, pass rushing. Bramon is very good on special teams, and has been effective at rushing the passer.

Mercilus has been hurt, so who knows how much improvement he will have from last year.

I would not want the responsibility of making the final cuts to this group if Williams and Montgomery don't show better in these last two pre-season games.
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Maybe the last two pre-season games will decide something differently, but Tuggle has played with the 1's the first two games, and I can't see where he has hurt himself. Jefferson keeps flashing, and has a very sorely-needed skill, pass rushing. Bramon is very good on special teams, and has been effective at rushing the passer.

Mercilus has been hurt, so who knows how much improvement he will have from last year.

I would not want the responsibility of making the final cuts to this group if Williams and Montgomery don't show better in these last two pre-season games.
Agreed! I wouldn't want to be the one to make the final cut.
There's possibility at quite a few positions.
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Agreed! I wouldn't want to be the one to make the final cut.
There's possibility at quite a few positions.
I'd love to be the one.

If they don't do it my way, they're going to screw it up.

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OLB's gonna be fine. Least of our problems. In fact the entire defense is going to be rolling this year barring injuries.

What kills the 2013 season if anything can kill it will be OL play.

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What have you seen from Reed and Mercilous to make you feel that way? I feel this is the worst unit on the entire team
I can't wait to hear the answer to that question. Merciless hasn't played and Reed hasn't really shown much.

The Saints tussle will tell us much about where we really are defensively.
We may not be as formidable as we'd like to think on the D side of the ball.
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I thought Jefferson caused some good disruption at times today. Reed was decent against the run, but was swallowed up by the tackles on passing downs as usual.
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Willie is definitely going to be a player. He's improved a ton since Game 1. I think they've already made up their minds he's going to be on the team. Now get that man a real jersey number.
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I can't wait to hear the answer to that question. Merciless hasn't played and Reed hasn't really shown much.

The Saints tussle will tell us much about where we really are defensively.
We may not be as formidable as we'd like to think on the D side of the ball.


On the other hand we may be just as formidable as we'd like to think on the D side. We won't really know until the real bullets start flying.

I got the optimism thing going this year. I care less but I'm enjoying it more.
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ILB's that can drop back against tight ends
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This thread is titled "The OLBs", like there are multiples, LOL. This preseason, it's been Willie Jefferson and a bunch of scrubs.

ILB is not going to be much better, as Cushing continues to recover from the injury. He won't be himself until the latter half of the season, I don't think. Mays may be better than Bradie James was (not a high bar), but we're still looking at a less than prime Cushing, Tim Dobbins, Joe Mays, and the mythical creature called Darryl Sharpton.

Thank God the DL looks to be better so far.
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When Willie rushes he reminds me of a cobra. He plays with his limbs kinda close to his frame and when he gets with in striking distance he uncoils.

He just needs to get stronger so his inside moves become more effective.
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I'll be surprised if Mays starts week 1

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When Willie rushes he reminds me of a cobra. He plays with his limbs kinda close to his frame and when he gets with in striking distance he uncoils.

He just needs to get stronger so his inside moves become more effective.
I think he's great. If he starts week 1 he'll be in the conversation for DROY by the end of the year.

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As of today we should draft both an OLB & ILB 2014.
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That's funny. That jersey is atrocious
He definitely has raw talent and has and will only get better. I'll use the "preseason" excuse but once the bullets start flying for real and Watt and the improved D line play mesh ill hold off judgement for a few weeks into the regular season.
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