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Old 08-20-2013   #21
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Aaaaaaand that's why guys like to get hit up high.

The problem with the rules that I have is that they penalize for incidental contact instead of blatant head hunting. They don't take into account natural football movement.

So now you're going to have more guys getting hit down low. I don't like to see that for any player.

But instead of reversing and allowing some leeway for defenders you're going to have the league now say you can't take away the legs and now wr's will start to get qb treatment.
yep. These kinds of injuries were predicted when the league started going after incidental contact. I expect to see more of them. Hate it, but it is what they are teaching players to avoid getting fined and suspended.
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1. Don't hit them in the helmet.

2. Don't hit them at or below knees.

New coaching technique: Aim for the GROIN.
The NFL will need to start hiring MLB umpires to help officiate games to make calls in the strike zone.
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

Brian Hartline calls Swearinger's hit "crap".

Hartline It's crap. I think that, me personally, if you're sitting there telling me 'I'm worried about going high and for the head,' [and] you consciously went low then [that] is what you're trying to tell me

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp1...-dustin-keller
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

Seth Payne ‏@PayneNFL
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Never heard of an unwritten rule against tackling low, which is why you see it IN EVERY SINGLE NFL GAME.
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So there is heat on Swearinger for the tackle on Keller? Don't go high, so where can you tackle?
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1. Don't hit them in the helmet.

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New coaching technique: Aim for the GROIN.
........but miss the jewels.............
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Default Brian Harline calls out Swearinger

http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?story...59&src=desktop

Hartline wants to play flag football.
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What are they going to do when a guy gets hit in the chest and gets his sternum cracked or broken?

I've seen it happen. Twice.
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What are they going to do when a guy gets hit in the chest and gets his sternum cracked or broken?

I've seen it happen. Twice.
Drew Bledsoe effectively had his career derailed by a blow to the chest.
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What are they going to do when a guy gets hit in the chest and gets his sternum cracked or broken?

I've seen it happen. Twice.
That is a nasty injury. I've cared for several patients with a fractured sternum Two died. The mortality has be found to be between 25 and 45 %, due to associated injuries to the underlying aorta, heart, and lung structures.

Fred Smooth I think was a DB for the Redskins, who suffered a fracture of the sternum. I heard an interview where he related that he couldn't stand up straight and had to sleep in a recliner for 4 months because he couldn't lie flat in bed either.

If I remember correctly , Dwight Howard also had this injury some years ago and was out of commission for quite a while.
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

Its pretty easy: when you have some of the fastest and strongest man go at each other full speed and force, you will have injuries. No matter where you hit them. But that`s football. You can change the rules again and only allow wrap up tackling and hits to the upper body - we would see way more flags and I don`t think that much less injuries. If you want to have this game injury free, you need to eliminate the hits - and if you do that, you can as well just stop playing it.
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

The whining and crying by Dolphin fans on the ESPN boards is unbearable. I'm not sure what their thin-skin is more upset by, the injury to Keller or their innocent little man Incognito. One Dolphin fan is urging that Smith be charged with attempted murder.
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A freak accident.

This isn't the "Target their surgically repaired knee on QB kneeldowns," Shanahan Broncos
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The whining and crying by Dolphin fans on the ESPN boards is unbearable. I'm not sure what their thin-skin is more upset by, the injury to Keller or their innocent little man Incognito. One Dolphin fan is urging that Smith be charged with attempted murder.
Yeah, I've seen this too. The way they talk it's like we derailed their soon-to-be Superbowl run or something
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Man do we suddenly look like the dirtiest team in the NFL after 2 pre season games

And who were they calling soft
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Man do we suddenly look like the dirtiest team in the NFL after 2 pre season games

And who were they calling soft
Well, at least the helmets are hard, ya know?
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Well, at least the helmets are hard, ya know?
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

Look down the page and blow up the pic of Swearinger tackling Keller...........Look Ma, no hands!


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Dustin Keller, do you want to know why your knee was unintentionally blown out by rookie DJ Swearinger? Just ask rookie Jon Bostic about the $21K fine the NFL just gave him for his clean hit to the chest of Mike Willie. Ridiculous!!!
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Default Re: Dustin Keller injury... wow

A buddy was trying to play devil's advocate last night by saying that Swearinger should have wrapped him up instead of tackling low.

I 'won' the debate by simply pointing out that a player who is in the process of wrapping up can be easily penalized if the receiver just tucks his head. A defender cannot go Matrix and change his trajectory in mid-air, so it leaves him in the position of trying to do the right thing but at the mercy of the receiver who can position himself to get hit high.

We are going to see more of these kinds of leg injuries as a result of the league's severe policy on incidental contact. Defenders will have no choice if they want to be sure that they won't get flagged and penalized by a system that continuously elevates the fines.

I understand how Dolphins fans feels, but they need to direct their ire toward the NFL, not the individual player who is just trying to play within ever-narrowing rules.
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I was thinking Crown (of the helmet) ON the jewels.
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