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Old 08-20-2013   #121
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Even though Crick may start next season, he is no where as good as Ninja. I'll miss him on the field and hope it doesn't cost us.
I'd start Earl Mitchell at Antonio's position, he can and has played DE, and then start the guy behind Earl on the DC who's been looking so good in preseason at Nose.
BTW, how stupid is Antonio to do this to himself and his team ? Sounds like something a 21 year-old rookie would do, not a 30 something NFL vet.
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I think the fine and suspension are warranted - but I think it`s a disgrace, that Incognito gets out of this again without a fine...
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Man if Smith is going to get suspended for 2 pre-season and the season opener, I wish he would have at least added an extra punch.

Sucks I won't get to see the Ninja play in SD!
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Default Re: Replay of Dirty Incognito vs Antonio * Suspended all preseason and season opener

He just needs to accept the suspension. I'd hate to see 1 regular season game turn into 3 regular season games.

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He just needs to accept the suspension. I'd hate for 1 regular season game turn into 3 regular season games.
Let's hope he smartly sits out the preseason games and is appealing only the regular season one.
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He just needs to accept the suspension. I'd hate to see 1 regular season game turn into 3 regular season games.
Never heard of a suspension getting worse when appealed. Now the total games of 3 could get pushed back into regular season which would be bad.
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Default Re: Replay of Dirty Incognito vs Antonio * Suspended all preseason and season opener

At least he showed some restraint in dropping the helmet. Could have done serious damage if he had really tried to hit him.

What he should have done is yanked Incognito's head around and punched him during the next play and take a 15 yd penalty if need be. At least its preseason. Then he could have argued that it happened the previous play.
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Unfair treatment of Antonio..the League continues to let one of the known dirtiest players get away without even a slap on the wrist
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Never heard of a suspension getting worse when appealed. Now the total games of 3 could get pushed back into regular season which would be bad.
What made you think I was talking about anything other than total games? I don't believe there's a precedent for a situation like this, but I wouldn't put it past the league to say the suspension is for three games preseason and regular season so appeal at your own risk.

Hopefully the process can be expedited
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What made you think I was talking about anything other than total games? I don't believe there's a precedent for a situation like this, but I wouldn't put it past the league to say the suspension is for three games preseason and regular season so appeal at your own risk.

Hopefully the process can be expedited
I would seriously doubt that the "change" from 2 to 3 would be due to an "appeal" rather than initial inaccurate reporting.
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I would seriously doubt that the "change" from 2 to 3 would be due to an "appeal" rather than initial inaccurate reporting.
That's not what I'm referring to. Right now he's suspended for a total of 3 games. If the appeal process goes into the season I would hope the league wouldn't say he needs to serve the full 3 games during the regular season should he lose. You know how Goodell loves to treat preseason games like regular season at least when it comes to ticket prices. Like I said there's no precedent for this that I can think of so who knows what the outcome would be.
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And fox sports 1 crew going after Smith again right now. Only showing helmet swing, nothing before leading up
and all saying the league and Goodell needs to send a message. Tiki Barber, Glazer, Urlacher, all of em..
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That's not what I'm referring to. Right now he's suspended for a total of 3 games. If the appeal process goes into the season I would hope the league wouldn't say he needs to serve the full 3 games during the regular season should he lose. You know how Goodell loves to treat preseason games like regular season at least when it comes to ticket prices. Like I said there's no precedent for this that I can think of so who knows what the outcome would be.
I would suspect that he could and would appeal only the in-season suspension while adhering to the preseason suspension(s) until he heard. I am sure the appeals process would have a quick turn around under the circumstances.
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I would suspect that he could and would appeal only the in-season suspension while adhering to the preseason suspension(s) until he heard. I am sure the appeals process would have a quick turn around under the circumstances.
I would certainly hope so.
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What exactly is the NFL going to fine Incognito for exactly? I know Hands to the Face is illegal in the context of the game, but they don't retroactively fine players for missed penalties, that's a terrible precedent to set. The refs share a little blame for missing these very egregious penalties by Incognito, leading to the rest of the confrontation (of course they didn't penalize Smith for going all Ninja on the helmet swing either, so those guys are bozos all round). The NFL should definitely have had a close eye on Incognito for his reputation but as far as fines/suspensions for Incognito for this incident I just don't think the stuff he did warrant that punishment.

Ritchie Incognito is a piece of **** Guard who relies on Courtland Finnegan type tactics to get under players skin in order to get them penalized or ejected. Those guys exist in this league and when you do things like swinging helmets at them you are playing into their hand. Antonio Smith is (what I thought) a much better player than that and could keep his temper in check, and while I doubt he cares about my opinions, but it's disappointing.
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What exactly is the NFL going to fine Incognito for exactly? I know Hands to the Face is illegal in the context of the game, but they don't retroactively fine players for missed penalties, that's a terrible precedent to set.
They have done it before. Happened a fes times last year where players were fined for non-flagged plays.

Here are a couple examples:

Kenny Philips

Golden Tate

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Glazer reporting (ticker on FS1) no official decision has been made by the NFL on Smith yet.

I already didn't like Glazer, but this dude is all over this story.... and wants the house brought down on Smith.
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