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Old 08-20-2013   #81
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Look like he got him pretty good from this angle, front page of msn

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?video...om=en-us_msnhp

He's getting flamed for it
Oh yeah...He nailed him...


I didn't think he actually hit him at first from the other angle...But it looks like he nailed him for sure there.

Antonio deserves to be suspended. Incognito was playing aggressive and a little dirty, but Antonio can't up the ante like that. He should know better and he needs to keep his cool. Get him back with good football play and maybe some hands to the face or shooting your hands in his gut...Some extra shoves after the whistle or something.

But you can't hit a guy with a helmet in the head. That's criminal. I could see some action being taken off the field and in a court room for similar acts.

Not a good move Antonio.
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The real problem here is that Antonio Smith, as much as I love him as a player simply doesn't come equipped to keep his cool in situations like that and pick his moments. Maybe that's what makes him the player he is but it hurts the team when he does something like this. Fortunately the Texans have got some depth so when the suspension comes down they'll be able to deal with it but it's still unfortunate. Incognito is a pest and a turd but he's not worth losing four games over. Sure, a player has to "protect himself" if the league isn't going to do it but there are ways to protect yourself that don't involve trying to smack the **** out of somebody with their helmet. That's just losing your temper and hurting your team.
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You keep spewing this Bull$*it, and that is exactly what it is. The day Schaub goes out there and tries to injure someone and gets a helmet swung at him IN RETALIATION, then no one will defend Schaub (well, no more than the current number of jackasses defending Incognito anyway).

You do understand the concept of retaliation, don't you? Don't start none, won't be none. Incognito has been starting crap for years and the refs are basically complicit at this point, because they don't do jack about it. At some point, a player has to protect himself if the NFL won't do it.
For some reason, folks on here think that Incognito was engaged in a run of the mill "hands to the face". I suggest they rewatch the play.

Yes, Smith overreacted. Yes, he used a non-football move in response to an extended illegal move by the other player. Yes, he should get his hand slapped hard, but...

This is the SECOND time that Incognito has 'initiated' with Smith and he wasn't fined the first time. I'm pulling for every D-Lineman across from Incognito this year. He deserves every cheap shot he gets.

I'm quickly losing all respect for every "news" outlet that shows only the end of the incident and happily overlooks what brought it on. Bleacher Report and Fox, I'm looking at you!
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The real problem here is that Antonio Smith, as much as I love him as a player simply doesn't come equipped to keep his cool in situations like that and pick his moments. Maybe that's what makes him the player he is but it hurts the team when he does something like this. Fortunately the Texans have got some depth so when the suspension comes down they'll be able to deal with it but it's still unfortunate. Incognito is a pest and a turd but he's not worth losing four games over. Sure, a player has to "protect himself" if the league isn't going to do it but there are ways to protect yourself that don't involve trying to smack the **** out of somebody with their helmet. That's just losing your temper and hurting your team.
Exactly.

Watching it again, there really is no need for Antonio to swing the helmet at him. Yeah Incognito got some hands to the head, but really Antonio was just frustrated because Incognito handled him on that play, roughed him up and had some hands to his face.
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Exactly.

Watching it again, there really is no need for Antonio to swing the helmet at him. Yeah Incognito got some hands to the head, but really Antonio was just frustrated because Incognito handled him on that play, roughed him up and had some hands to his face.
Handled him by his face mask. A 120 pound guy can handle a 300 pound if he has him by the face mask.

Personally i think retard got what he had coming, and sorry but smith wasnt just retaliating for that but also for last season where u could see retard doing something to smiths ankle.

That dude needs a few good blows to the head.
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Oh yeah...He nailed him...


I didn't think he actually hit him at first from the other angle...But it looks like he nailed him for sure there.
I don't agree. What you are seeing is Icognito's reaction. You can see that from the original angle as well and it also shows the swing misses.
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Handled him by his face mask. A 120 pound guy can handle a 300 pound if he has him by the face mask.
1) that's not true

2) he didn't just grab smiths face mask and not let go. To me it looks more like some forceful hands to the face (which is infuriating).

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Personally i think retard got what he had coming, and sorry but smith wasnt just retaliating for that but also for last season where u could see retard doing something to smiths ankle.
That dude needs a few good blows to the head.
Not like that. I can't support hitting a guy in the head with a helmet for what ingognito did there. That was over the top.
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I don't agree. What you are seeing is Icognito's reaction. You can see that from the original angle as well and it also shows the swing misses.
Looking at it again, maybe you are right.
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Smith just can't lose it in situations like this. Let the referee know what is going on and be like Fonzi. Be cool. He should be suspended for swinging the helmet at someone's unprotected head, regardless of if he is taking some hands to the face or not.
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Imo...Incognito is the type of player that if he can hurt you, he will. If he can end your season, he will.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...6818--nfl.html

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He should have just pretended to hand his helmet back to him, then just as he reached for it yelled SIKE!... And tossed it down the field then laughed at him and high fived some teammates. Thst would have been totally awesome.
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Just been announced that the suspension will be at least ONE REGULAR SEASON GAME.

This piece says, there is consideration for 1 to 2.

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Well the regular season game(s) suspension seems warranted. Smith has to maintain his composure especially with players like Incognito who makes up for an obvious lack of talent by annoying and baiting other players into fouls.
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Antonio is a really good player, but if the Texans can't beat the Chargers and possibly the Titans without him then I would say we're not really Super Bowl contenders.
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Antonio is a really good player, but if the Texans can't beat the Chargers and possibly the Titans without him then I would say we're not really Super Bowl contenders.
Antonio has been our second best pass rusher. So you are probably right that if we can't get other players to consistently contribute there we aren't going very far.
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Richie eating this up...

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Maybe I am biased, but after watching the entire play from a few angles I firmly believe that Incognito knew what he was doing, and got the response he was looking for from Antonio which might end up really costing Smith. I also think that Incognito was emphasising or helping the ref see Smith ripping the helmet off. You can see Incognito's arms go to his side and down rather than up to keep Antonio off him, and then he sort of bends over to help the helmet come off.

The hit almost looks WWE style. Smith may have gotten Incognito with the helmet on the chest, but Incognito really sells it by whipping his head backwards. Either that or he just really didnt want his face smashed in.

Bottom line, Incognito is still a d-bag whom everyone hates, and Smith went too far and now is getting a bad reputation. He should know the NFL isnt going to like helmets being ripped off and should expect a fine and suspension. However, I do think the NFL needs to take a look at Incognito's game film, send him a nice letter about his "style" of play and realize that he is the catalyst for a higher than usual number of these types of retaliations.
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The NFL should suspend the official standing there digging his buhole. I mean, how can you miss something with so much commotion such as swinging helmets and hands under facemasks. Dumbass

The thing that bothers me is Smith allowed this assbag to get into his head. I couldn't care less about that fat bastard, but Antonio needs to keep his cool.
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Ninjas should have better control of their emotions and all retaliation should be ninja-like, not out in the open in front of officials and camera.

Antonio is going to lose his ninja card if he cannot act like one.

Incognito is a known POS. Smith personally knows this to be true. He cannot let someone else dictate his game. Regular game suspensions hurt the team, and that is simply unacceptable when the Texans are trying to make this season THE season. The first game counts just as much as the last in the win/loss columns.
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