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Old 08-16-2013   #361
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That's only because of the Denver air. Schaub's long td passes are really more like Tue first one he threw to AJ. Schaub probably has the weakest arm of the three, with Case having the strongest.

If u go to training camp or see the guys just throw the ball,you would know and see the pop and rotations off yates ball is far greater than the other 2.That's doesn't mean he's the best qb,but he's the most skillful of the 3.
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I agree. We will most likely merge with China, unless Obama gets a 3rd term. In that case, we will be merging with Islam. Whatever that means. It can't be good and I don't think there's been a suicide bomber proof suit built yet. Just say your Hail Obama's, watch Duck Dynasty and try your best to refrain from saying "using the whole fist, Doc? Swiiing looow, sweet chariooot". How many get that movie reference?
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Easy answer.. because there is absolutely horrible QB play in this league, just for starters.. teams like OAK, Jax, and NY.
Never implied the Jets lol
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Never implied the Jets lol
Before you start labeling people's opinions as "doubling retarded", you really REALLY need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

I never doubted that I mentioned (or implied) the Jets could be a threat to take him..So I really don't understand your post above. I mean I know it's late on a Friday night, but where the hell did you get that I never implied the jets from?

All I did was simply throw the B.S. flag up in the air when you tried to imply that I said Rex would try to snag a QB like Keenum off the waiver wire to replace Sanchez with.

All I did was mention "possibilities" or teams that could be looking to add another QB to bolster their horrible QB situation and those teams that I mentioned were the first that popped in my head. Newsflash, most teams carry 3 QBs on their roster, so if Keenum is snagged off the wire, I highly doubt he'd be grabbed up to be a starter or even a backup like you tried to IMPLY that I said. There are only 22 offensive and defensive starters.. if a team feels that Keenum can upgrade one of the other spots, they'll grab him.. That's all I ever said, so where the hell did you ever get that I mentioned Rex would look at Keenum as a replacement for Sanchez?

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WE INTERRUPT YOUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED PISSING MATCH...

To say that this will be Case's first real challenge at the pro level IIRC. He's always played with the fodder prior to this evening. I guess the eyeball test should tell us if he's progressed further than TJ has. I, for one, am really looking forward to the 3rd or so series. Also wanna see the first stringers with Matt for as true of a back-to-back comparison as we're likely to be able to see.

For all you folks that actually got to attend the the game I'm hoping you all had a great first of the season tailgaiting experience.

Kinda wish I was there but no biggie, I get to watch it with Baby Girl! I know she's only two but she knows PawPaw loves his Texans so so does she!
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Jake Delhome, Jeff Garcia are two names I can think of.
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John Kitna is another guy.
He wend undrafted in 1996, but ended up starting 124 games.
His teams weren't very good, but he managed to win the division once (in 99) and garnered Come Back Player of the Year in 2003.
Off top of my head, Jay Fiedler is another decent undrafted starting qb

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Default Ready to see Keenum with first team.

I am a homer, I am drinking the coolaid, preseason doesn't mean anything, back up quarterbacks are always the most popular guy on the team, I don't know anything about football, Keenum is a system guy, Keenum had no serious competition in college, Keenum has been playing against scrubs.

I am sure I have left some things out but I think that covers most of the rebuttals for this thread.

I believe that I have been patient enough with Schaub, he's been here for years and I think he has already peaked as a professional. Among other knocks against Schaub I am particularly irritated by his under thrown long balls and chokes in big time situations.

I am not saying Keenum is the next Drew Brees but I am saying he has shown enough that I want to see what he can do in the regular season. If Schaub starts to struggle this year I want to see him benched and Keenum given a shot.
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The best thing about the backup battle last night was that both of them looked good. In week one I thought Keenum looked better than Yates. This week I thought Yates looked better than Keenum. Both weeks I felt like we had real depth at QB.

This is a good problem to have.
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I am not saying Keenum is the next Drew Brees but I am saying he has shown enough that I want to see what he can do in the regular season. If Schaub starts to struggle this year I want to see him benched and Keenum given a shot.
I trust you won't be terribly crushed as that has no chance in hell of happening.

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Through 2 practice games:

Keenum 24-36 (66.7%), 275 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 7.6 Y/A
Yates 20-30 (66.7%), 235 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 7.8 Y/A

Pass completions of 20 yards or more: Case 4, TJ 2.

Possessions:
Keenum - 9 drives;
4 punts
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Yates - 9 drives;
5 punts
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Through 2 practice games:

Keenum 24-36 (66.7%), 275 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 7.6 Y/A
Yates 20-30 (66.7%), 235 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 7.8 Y/A

Pass completions of 20 yards or more: Case 4, TJ 2.

Possessions:
Keenum - 9 drives;
4 punts
3 TD
2 FG

Yates - 9 drives;
5 punts
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1 missed FG
1 fumble by RB
That's about as even as it gets right there. I'm impressed TJ has responded the way he has. He almost looks like he's having more fun this year too.
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That's about as even as it gets right there. I'm impressed TJ has responded the way he has. He almost looks like he's having more fun this year too.
The stats are even, but stats don't measure drops, situations, or down and distances.
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The stats are even, but stats don't measure drops, situations, or down and distances.
And considering all of that the battle favors who in your opinion?
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And considering all of that the battle favors who in your opinion?
Actually in my opinion, no one guy over the other one. Believe it or not, that's a really good problem to have.

Obviously Schaub is the number1; Yates and Keenum battling for number 2, is actually a really good thing. Well, me thinks!
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And considering all of that the battle favors who in your opinion?
Case.

He just moves better back there. It's looking like UH. I really wanna see him with the 1s like CB because I think he could really shine. Schaub would have to be absolutely horrific, or injured, for Case to get a chance tho. He will beat out TJ because he is just a better player. He is a better player than Schaub too, just doesn't have the NFL experience. There is definitely a brees going through those hallways in reliant.
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And considering all of that the battle favors who in your opinion?
I think Tj's experience is still the trump card. It's importance can not be overstated.

A big plus on Case's side... he seems to energize the whole team. Elevate them if you will. Also can't be overstated.
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My point is that unless you run a vertical attack, which is not what the WCO is about, you don't need your QB to have a cannon of an arm.

40 yard throw is good enough to keep the defense honest.
You want your QB to be able to direct the offense downfield methodically.
Short, safe throws that reduce the number of third and long.
Catch them off-guard here and there if they try to play close to the vest.
Agree and prefer an accurate passer rather a cannon arm; both but would be awesome but those are rare. Interesting but means nothing, Schaub increased his average per pass from college to pro. If Case does the same, watch out. 2010 & 2011 he avg apprx 9.5.
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