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Old 08-11-2013   #61
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Still not on board with KJ. Obviously better each year. Still doesn't look for ball enough. Still seems to chase a lot. We will see. I hope I am wrong.

Don't remember specifically how he did against GB and the Pats.
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Still not on board with KJ. Obviously better each year. Still doesn't look for ball enough. Still seems to chase a lot. We will see. I hope I am wrong.

Don't remember specifically how he did against GB and the Pats.
If you don't remember, it's a good sign for a DB.
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Rodgers was in a zone in that game.
He put the ball in places that make it hard for the defenders, and his receivers made some great catches as well.

Over the course of a season, CBs will have balls caught on him.
The question is how often and how good or bad the coverages were in the whole body work.

Many in here thought that Jackson actually had a better than JJo who was dealing with an injury for several games.
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Rodgers was in a zone in that game.
He put the ball in places that make it hard for the defenders, and his receivers made some great catches as well.

Over the course of a season, CBs will have balls caught on him.
The question is how often and how good or bad the coverages were in the whole body work.

Many in here thought that Jackson actually had a better than JJo who was dealing with an injury for several games.
Could not agree more with this statement. I do think healthy JJo is better than KJ because he has better ball skills. I do think KJ is better now than I thought he would ever be based on his start. I guess I still don't trust KJ against the better QB's that we are going to need to beat in the playoffs because he still just plays the receiver and not the ball in many situations. A better pass rush is going to be critical when we get in these tougher games because a great QB/receiver combo will win if given time. I guess overall I do agree with original premise of post.
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I guess I still don't trust KJ against the better QB's that we are going to need to beat in the playoffs because he still just plays the receiver and not the ball in many situations. .
To be fair, there are very few CBs I trust against these QBs we're talking about.
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Yes, this is why I hate these QBs we're talking about.
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I guess I still don't trust KJ against the better QB's that we are going to need to beat in the playoffs because he still just plays the receiver and not the ball in many situations.
CB's whom I trust against Aaron Rodgers/Brady/Manning:

1. Darrelle Revis
2. Richard Sher- welp nope, lost to Kaepernick so he's out
3. Ladarius We- nope, team won SB when he wasn't there so he's out
4. Jonathan Jo- nope, lost to brady so he's out
5. Peanut Tillm- nope, loses to Aaron Rodg on the reg

Huh, it's weird, it's almost like since the rules favor the offense so much there really isn't a corner not named Revis whom one could trust against better QB's.
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Still not on board with KJ. Obviously better each year. Still doesn't look for ball enough. Still seems to chase a lot. We will see. I hope I am wrong.

Don't remember specifically how he did against GB and the Pats.
Lol wow. I think you're just being stubborn now.

With that said I'm happy I'm not one of the ones eating crow in this. I always give young players a few years.
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I remember being elated when we signed Jonathan Joseph because I thought that Kareem had no real mentor to each him how to succeed in the NFL. Instances of "Hey, when you see xxx, you should try doing yyy; That screwed me up when I first started in the league" never occurred because nobody could mentor/teach Kareem.

Kareem Jackson was one of the biggest benefactors of Jonathan Joseph's signing.
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Asomugha was considered a shut down guy for years until Victor Cruz salsa-danced all over him in 1 game. After that, qb's started having their way with him.

I remember Moss catching that 1 handed TD bomb from Brady over Revis. Teams started going at Revis a little harder after that.

a perfect throw / a great WR can make the great coverage null and void.

I say all that to say that Kareem is just getting to the point where he's coming out of the red from that disasterous rookie season. Dude has evolved as a solid starting cb. Noone should criticize him for that GB b/c Rodgers was dropping dimes tha night...i remember one of the announcers saying "kareem jackson was in James Jones' shirt and it didn't even matter." That happened more than 1 time that night.

Plus who can forget how KJ pretty much took Calvin Johnson out of the game in the 2nd of that Detroit game last year when he asked VJ to "let me chase him"?
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Still not on board with KJ. Obviously better each year. Still doesn't look for ball enough. Still seems to chase a lot. We will see. I hope I am wrong.

Don't remember specifically how he did against GB and the Pats.
Not a KJ hater but....
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This is the KJ thread, not the JJoe one.
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Our secondary looked bad today. Jjo, Kjax, McCain, Keo, Swearinger, Manning. ..

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Still not on board with KJ. Obviously better each year. Still doesn't look for ball enough. Still seems to chase a lot. We will see. I hope I am wrong.

Don't remember specifically how he did against GB and the Pats.
This here. I thought smith blew it picking Jackson but the man really turned it around. Now he is a solid cover corner but I really wish he make a play on the ball more often.
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Since when did Luke McCown become elite?

Brees took a seat after their first TD.
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Since when did Luke McCown become elite?

Brees took a seat after their first TD.
To be fair........................those were some dang good back ups
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KJ has certainly come a long way. He gets good coverage on his guy. I was a little surprised when I saw him yesterday. The passes that came his way had to be perfect to get completions. Elite QBs will do that.

Our shutting down of elite QBs comes down to how good our nickel and dime coverage is. If Keo is out on the field, God help us all.
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