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Old 08-04-2013   #321
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Sigh. I'm just waiting for the season to begin. Hopefully all this offseason crap will die down by then.

Manziel or no, I'll be up in the stands at Kyle participating in the yells twice as loud this season.
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If the broker sells out Manziel and he becomes ineligible,then his "investment" goes to crap. That's why I find it hard to believe that someone would be so brazen as to do this in public view.
I agree with you. Just throwing out possible scenarios. The way boosters operate though I can see someone trying to throw a crapload of money at him to snitch.
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A sprinkle of the sleaze factor is not going to make this any better.......


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It looks like Johnny Manziel could be in major trouble. Part of the blame could lie with an alleged autograph broker who lives in the state of Florida. His name is Drew Tieman and he appears to have past arrests on his rap sheet — mostly drug related.

Scroll down to see 6 pictures of Drew Tieman, who reportedly paid Johnny Football more than $10,000 to sign memorabilia.

If he’s found guilty by the NCAA, the reigning Heisman Trophy winner could be suspended for a long, long time. Missing the entire 2013 college football season for Texas A&M isn’t out of the question. And the broker could also find himself in more hot water.

Here are the aforementioned images — be sure you click “Next” to view all six. Included is a suspicious shot with none other than Manti Te’o!
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Could find no record of this "broker" mentioned anywhere in association with brokering for any other players.........or for that matter, in any other context of "brokering."

Makes one think that this could turn out to basically having been planned as a one-on-one profit-splitting scheme from the beginning.
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We need to understand something about the Manziel family. They are not merely wealthy. They are filthy, astonishing, rich. They have Texas oil money, and when we're talking Texas oil money, we are talking about billions and billions of dollars that lasts for generations, and will likely never run out. Ever.

Johnny likely doesn't care because he likely has a trust in which he'll eventually inherit $100 million or so in a few years. He he doesn't care if he makes it in the NFL because he'll still be a rich douche that can do whatever he wants. AND, he'll be able to be a multi-millionare without putting his body through a career as an athlete. The guy is a lazy, entitled douche, and doesn't care about anyone else.

It's sad, but, it's probably how he thinks.
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We need to understand something about the Manziel family. They are not merely wealthy. They are filthy, astonishing, rich. They have Texas oil money, and when we're talking Texas oil money, we are talking about billions and billions of dollars that lasts for generations, and will likely never run out. Ever.

Johnny likely doesn't care because he likely has a trust in which he'll eventually inherit $100 million or so in a few years. He he doesn't care if he makes it in the NFL because he'll still be a rich douche that can do whatever he wants. AND, he'll be able to be a multi-millionare without putting his body through a career as an athlete. The guy is a lazy, entitled douche, and doesn't care about anyone else.

It's sad, but, it's probably how he thinks.
That's very much as I see it.

He's the type of person who can have millions, but go for a 5 figure shady deal............or shoplift a 1 figure item..........just to say he did.........and got away with it.
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Tamu better start getting Davis ready.

This isn't going to end well for manziel.
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Tamu better start getting Davis ready.

This isn't going to end well for manziel.
Davis isn't even the backup right now. Joeckel's little brother is the number 2 behind Johnny at the moment. A&M is screwed with either one at QB though. Joeckel's the more polished passer at this point so he'll probably get the nod if they need someone. I'm going to say that Manziel doesn't miss any time though. It wasn't a very well kept secret that Lache Seastrunk got paid during his recruitment a few years ago, but the NCAA could never prove it. I think that's ultimately what's gonna happen here.

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Davis isn't even the backup right now. Joeckel's little brother is the number 2 behind Johnny right now. A&M is screwed with either one at QB though. Joeckel's the more polished passer at this point so he'll probably get the nod if they need someone. I'm going to say that Manziel doesn't miss any time though. It wasn't a very well kept secret that Lache Seastrunk got paid during his recruitment a few years ago, but the NCAA could never prove it. I think that's ultimately what's gonna happen here.
I think manziel is too high profile. I think they are going to keep fishing until they get something.

Regarding the back up situation...he'll if I know. I just know them from the video game and Davis is pretty nice on there...lol
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Wow. This kid has been getting a beat down since he won the Heisman.

Amazing how the media builds an athlete or celebrity up only to gleefully yank the carpet out from under them the first chance they get.

The NCAA and college football are some of the biggest crooks out there. To make millions upon million of dollars on these kids efforts and to suspend them for selling jerseys or autographs is ridiculous.
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Wow. This kid has been getting a beat down since he won the Heisman.

Amazing how the media builds an athlete or celebrity up only to gleefully yank the carpet out from under them the first chance they get.

The NCAA and college football are some of the biggest crooks out there. To make millions upon million of dollars on these kids efforts and to suspend them for selling jerseys or autographs is ridiculous.
I agree with all of that.

I think the NCAA is full of **** especially.
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Does A&M just suck at covering this kind of stuff up? UT, USC, the U, LSU, Bama, etc seem to at least protect their guys until they get out of the college ranks.

The NCAA's random enforcement of their rules is what has made them a joke.
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As more info comes out, it looks like his buddy/personal assistant Nate is the one who said manziel will need to be paid for any autograph sessions. It's possible though unlikely that if payment was made nate is the one who is getting the cash and was using manziel and thinking he found a loophole and manziel never saw a dime.

Nate is the guy who said the racial slur that got Johnny into the fight a year ago.

<sigh> why do these guys put themselves in the hands of their buddies who don't know what the hell they are doing??
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NCAA is stupid slow at processing these things. I'd expect he plays this years and they suspend him after the fact. That seems to be their thing.
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As more info comes out, it looks like his buddy/personal assistant Nate is the one who said manziel will need to be paid for any autograph sessions. It's possible though unlikely that if payment was made nate is the one who is getting the cash and was using manziel and thinking he found a loophole and manziel never saw a dime.

Nate is the guy who said the racial slur that got Johnny into the fight a year ago.

<sigh> why do these guys put themselves in the hands of their buddies who don't know what the hell they are doing??
Manziel can do no wrong in your eyes eh? Oh yeah, it had to be his buddy's idea, because Manziel isnt smart enough to hatch a scheme where his buddy is the fence.
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As more info comes out, it looks like his buddy/personal assistant Nate is the one who said manziel will need to be paid for any autograph sessions. It's possible though unlikely that if payment was made nate is the one who is getting the cash and was using manziel and thinking he found a loophole and manziel never saw a dime.

Nate is the guy who said the racial slur that got Johnny into the fight a year ago.

<sigh> why do these guys put themselves in the hands of their buddies who don't know what the hell they are doing??
Why do you keep trying to make excuses for his actions?

I mean, I get that you're an A&M guy but can you not take a logical look at Manziel?

I've seen parents that view their kids with less bias.

You have blamed everyone except Manziel for any trouble/drama he's gotten into. The media, his parents, his money, peoples perception of hi, his friend, fans, haters....

Are you his publicist?

The kid has some things he needs to work on. He's young, hopefully he gets it figured out.
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Manziel can do no wrong in your eyes eh? Oh yeah, it had to be his buddy's idea, because Manziel isnt smart enough to hatch a scheme where his buddy is the fence.
What part of "though unlikely" did you just either miss or completely ignore??

Manziel's a smart guy and IF this happened and he's guilty, it's on him.
Plus, he let his buddy who already got him in trouble to run point and speak for him with people. Not a smart move.

But what do we know for sure? That he signed a bunch of stuff, that the NCAA has been looking into this for 3 months, though ESPN waited till the day before camp opens to break the story, that "unnamed sources" have said his buddy/PA told them that there will be no more free autograph sessions and that no one has said or given any proof that Manziel accepted payment for autographs.

An wrongdoing is simply speculation at this point and no witness has said he did anything the wrong. Every piece of this story is speculation other than the fact that the NCAA is investigating and that he signed stuff.
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Why do you keep trying to make excuses for his actions?

I mean, I get that you're an A&M guy but can you not take a logical look at Manziel?

I've seen parents that view their kids with less bias.

You have blamed everyone except Manziel for any trouble/drama he's gotten into. The media, his parents, his money, peoples perception of hi, his friend, fans, haters....

Are you his publicist?

The kid has some things he needs to work on. He's young, hopefully he gets it figured out.
Oh his parents are for sure culpable in whatever comes of this. How they could allow/enable their son to do some of this stuff is beyond me. Especially allowing a buddy who has already gotten him into trouble to be his personal assistant and manage much of his life outside of football. That is just DUMB.
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